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Now that is weak. Just when you think an opinion about a company can't drop any lower, they go and copy TPB.
 
Whoever Psystar owners are, I can already tell their *******s who are sore losers.

I never supported what they were trying to do. If they won, OS X would basically turn out to be just like Windows. Anyone could run it, on their crappy machines. Essentially making it a bad OS.

I think that Apple are WAAY better off making their own stuff and not selling it to other companies.
PCs running OS X, just isn't right.
I think that if someone likes OS X so bad, they should get a Mac.

This is completely true. Apple couldn't get OS X to run on most PC's like Windows. MS spent years developing this, and Apple hasn't. Apple is making a lot of profit on making it run on their own equip. They may go out of business if they tried to make it run on a variety of PC's and didn't have the drivers to support the many different types of hardware out there. They have enough problems just making it run on an iPhone.
I would like to see Apple come out with a product like that, but I really don't think they have the expertise at this point in time

Psystar isn't making a profit from a $15 shirt. Come on. And yes, I was stupid. I bought a T-Shirt. If they get a favorable ruling on Rebel EFI, I get a copy for $15, instead of the $49 they normally charged. And if they don't, I still get a funny T-Shirt.
 
As far as I know, you cannot install Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware without violating the EULA.

I can quote exactly, cbf reading whole EULA.

Edit: 4th line down:

Dictatorship anyone?
What is this world getting to? It keeps getting worse and worse every year.
Apple of 2009 = IBM of 1984

The consumer is never right.

Capitalism and consumerism is really showing it's ugly face now. It sounded good at first... as did communism.

[leaves to his happy place]... imagine a world where the best of apple + the best of linux + the best of microsoft + the best of nvidia and ati + the best of amd and intel and ARM and via all coming together as one combined with the best of cisco and the like minus overpaid CEOs. IMAGINE.

[back to reality], leaves to play crisis on PC. Built out of parts that costed less than an apple branded video card for my mac pro. I can't have windows7 installed on my machine because i have an apple branded RAID card. I feel i have switched too soon, apple is not ready, as is linux, i feel cheated by the system. I ran away from a few tolerable problems with PC and ran into a whole new set of problems with mac. Won't an immeasurably small percentage of apple's 20something billion dollars write a simple driver?

I feel Psystar had good intentions.
 
The consumer is never right.

If you don't like it, stop buying proprietary software and hardware with restrictive usage conditions.

I feel Psystar had good intentions.

The half-bright crooks at Psystar wanted only to steal money from Apple by exploiting their software. They sold a microscopic amount of poorly-built machines and sold software that is illegal in the United States. They did it for their own personal gain with absolutely no concern for anyone else.

Apple on the other hand as a publicly traded corporation is required to take action in the best interest of the people who have given them money to buy shares of their stock. If they had tolerated Psystar stealing their software and taking their hardware sales, they'd be negligent to their shareholders.

I find it absolutely hilarious that there are actually people donating money to a for-profit corporation, let alone one whose business plan revolves around potentially criminal copyright infringement. If you're going to give money, why not donate to the GNOME, KDE, SAMBA, Aptitude, Xorg, or PostgreSQL projects to help improve the desktop environments and system components on Linux so that some day it might be solid enough of a single-user desktop operating system that it can compete on even ground with OS X and Windows? You might even be able to write that one off. :rolleyes:
 
If you don't like it, stop buying proprietary software and hardware with restrictive usage conditions.



The half-bright crooks at Psystar wanted only to steal money from Apple by exploiting their software. They sold a microscopic amount of poorly-built machines and sold software that is illegal in the United States. They did it for their own personal gain with absolutely no concern for anyone else.

Apple on the other hand as a publicly traded corporation is required to take action in the best interest of the people who have given them money to buy shares of their stock. If they had tolerated Psystar stealing their software and taking their hardware sales, they'd be negligent to their shareholders.

I find it absolutely hilarious that there are actually people donating money to a for-profit corporation, let alone one whose business plan revolves around potentially criminal copyright infringement. If you're going to give money, why not donate to the GNOME, KDE, SAMBA, Aptitude, Xorg, or PostgreSQL projects to help improve the desktop environments and system components on Linux so that some day it might be solid enough of a single-user desktop operating system that it can compete on even ground with OS X and Windows? You might even be able to write that one off. :rolleyes:
:confused: Have you ever used Ubuntu? It is most certainly solid enough to compete with Windows and Mac OS X.

Anyway, I think Intel has a good point. I think a little competition would be good for us, the consumers.
 
:confused: Have you ever used Ubuntu? It is most certainly solid enough to compete with Windows and Mac OS X.

Anyway, I think Intel has a good point. I think a little competition would be good for us, the consumers.

Breaking into Apple's stores and stealing Macs and selling them at a discount is not competition for Apple.

Neither is stealing Apple's intellectual property and selling it at a discount competition for Apple.

If Psystar wants to compete with Apple, they should go invest the R&D necessary to create a competing operating system, rather than stealing Apple's R&D.
 
:confused: Have you ever used Ubuntu? It is most certainly solid enough to compete with Windows and Mac OS X.

It's solid enough to use on a day to day basis if you have a moderate understanding of PC software. I've done it myself for years and I can't think of much I lost, really. Even if I had to buy proprietary software to help interoperability. In terms of UNIX on the desktop it's perfectly usable. It is not, however, in the same class as OS X and Windows when it comes to overall experience, orthogonality, and consistency. General software quality is also still not quite there yet for general-purpose basic user deployment, IMO. OEMs are using it for netbooks, but not for desktops yet. Give it a few years, and I bet it'll be quite close indeed. And if Microsoft keeps dropping the ball with their OSes, I can see OEMs thinking very hard about putting Windows on sub-$300 machines with already miniscule margins.

Anyway, I think Intel has a good point. I think a little competition would be good for us, the consumers.

There's plenty already. If you value Mac OS X and the platform has the applications you need, you buy a Mac. If you don't and it doesn't, you don't. People who want i7s with gaming GPUs and cheaper memory can decide what's worth more to them. A good portion of them, probably a majority, pick the i7 route. Apple doesn't seem to be forcibly coercing them into buying Macs.

If it was a good business decision to license, they'd be forced to do it by shareholders. Clone makers nearly killed Apple in the 90s and they'd finish them off this time around if given half the chance, with absolutely no regard to what would happen to the platform and the OS that put them in business in the first place. Apple is under absolutely no obligation to support or encourage anyone to run their operating system or other software against their EULAs on unsupported hardware, and they are completely within their rights to do everything possible to prevent it.
 
:confused: Have you ever used Ubuntu? It is most certainly solid enough to compete with Windows and Mac OS X.

Anyway, I think Intel has a good point. I think a little competition would be good for us, the consumers.

They have competition, Microsoft, HP, Sony, Toshiba, Dell, Lenovo, et cetera. Psystar was not competition it was a pest that threatened Apple with a possible legal precedent.
 
Thanks, guys, I'll be here all week. ;)

I only wish Apple was my client so I could have delivered the spanking to Psystar myself.
 
Obscene. People are starving and you guys are donating money to a bunch of thieves.

As if that weren't obscene enough:

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Bill and Melinda's $500,000,000 Shrine

Imagine channeling charitable funds into a monumental 'cotradiction' such as this?

It makes one wonder how the world will perceive a charade of this appalling magnitude.
 
So you support buying apple software from people who stole it from Apple? Would you buy a mac from a guy who crashed a van into the apple store and made off with the inventory?

Do you create anything in your line of work? Would you enjoy if people just stole it from you?

Does it count if I've found my software on multiple BitTorrent sites already?
 
Psystar has helped people beyond selling systems. They have programmers/hackers working with the "OSx86" community, and have contributed great software, free of charge.

I doubt if stealing from the OSx86 community helped them in any way...better asked netkas if he is happy with these clowns.

These guys are a bunch of crooks, they taunted Apple trying to rip off them off with their own products and hey stole code from the hackintosh community and repackaged it for sale and claimed it as being originally made by them.
 
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