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Psystar Asks for Donations, Sells 'I Sued Psystar' T-Shirts

paja said:
Pathetic really, but their lawyers are probably asking to get paid.
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Their first lawyers have been asking to be paid $88,000 for a while, which we know from Psystar's bankruptcy filings. Their second lawyers are only paid if they win.
 
Very misleading. It's not any software. It's Apple software. And Apple software is designed to work on Apple hardware.
 
lordhamster said:
I don't understand why they had to go and violate apple's license agreements by copying their software without consent? I mean, why not just build the machines, and post a link to the apple store where people can buy snow leopard themselves. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to buy a machine that is 100% OSX compatible, yet would be capable of loading it themselves.
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From a legal point of view, this wouldn't have helped much. To run MacOS X on a non-Apple computer, making it compatible is not enough - Apple actively prevents MacOS X on non-Apple computers, and they would have to get around that somehow, and that would be a DMCA violation. Not only for the person doing the installing, but also for the people building the computer, which would be Psystar.

Of the damages that Psystar was ordered to pay, only a tiny amount is for copyright infringement, the majority is for DMCA violation (Apple asked for $2500 per violation, which would be $2500 per computer. Which completely kills the business).
 
lordhamster said:
I don't understand why they had to go and violate apple's license agreements by copying their software without consent? I mean, why not just build the machines, and post a link to the apple store where people can buy snow leopard themselves. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to buy a machine that is 100% OSX compatible, yet would be capable of loading it themselves.
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Posting a link would be inducement and/or contribution to copyright infringement. In other words, Psystar is providing the components and instructions on how to violate Apple's copyright (via EULA breach, DMCA breach, etc.) Both inducing copyright infringement and contributing to copyright infringement are treated identically to direct copyright infringement; i.e.: they're illegal.

In fact, Judge Alsup, in his order, enjoined Psystar from assisting, contributing, etc. to infringement of Apple's copyrights.

gnasher729 said:
If you copy it, that would be copyright infringement and then they sue you and when you lose you can print your own T-shirt! 😀
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By Psystar's logic, you should go to Psystar's website and print out a color copy of the shirt and go get a million copies made and sell them and pocket the proceeds or donate them to Apple to fight Psystar - after all, once you load a web page you should be free to "do whatever you want with it."
 
Those of us with a pinch of logic called this one before it all started.

Psystar is trying to be hip and scrape as much cash from their followers that had money (less than a 1000 machines sold) as they can before they finally crumble.

For those that said they can't blame them, I can... Psystar as said previous is a circus. A pathetic joke of a circus.
 
cmaier said:
By Psystar's logic, you should go to Psystar's website and print out a color copy of the shirt and go get a million copies made and sell them and pocket the proceeds or donate them to Apple to fight Psystar - after all, once you load a web page you should be free to "do whatever you want with it."
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HAHAHA!

This is probably one of the best bits I have read here in a while!

A little taste of their own medicine would be classic. Could you imagine Psystar trying to defend against this one... I'd pay to see it. 🙂
 
cmaier said:
The judge, clerks, bailiffs worked for free, PG&E donated heat and electricity?

If not for these bozos the courts could have spent that time on a real case.
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Maybe they represented themselves, like a serial killer did a couple of years ago. Also what people do frequently at the Papakura District Courts. 😉
 
pdjudd said:
1) Psystar very much so is a company - they sell a product. Even the courts referred to them as a business.

2) These t-Shirts are really nothing special and I doubt that they are unique enough to ever be worth much money - they really aren’t collectable since they are easy to reproduce.
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1) I realize I should have said they're and have fixed it since them. What I mean by "They're not a company like Apple" is that Psystar makes their money by far less honorable practices than Apple.
 
JAT said:
Didja know that "internalize" means to stew over something internally and not put it out in public? Like on a website?
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Actually... no, that's not what internalize means at all:
in·ter·nal·ize (n-tûrn-lz)
tr.v. in·ter·nal·ized, in·ter·nal·iz·ing, in·ter·nal·iz·es
  1. To make internal, personal, or subjective: "Protean man internalizes the longing for immortality through an ongoing process of death and rebirth within himself" (Henry S. Resnik).
  2. To take in and make an integral part of one's attitudes or beliefs: had internalized the cultural values of the Poles after a year of living in Warsaw.
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BlueRevolution said:
Oh well, it was good while it lasted. Props to Psystar for having the guts to take a stand against ol' Apple. I'm probably the only one around here who is sad to see Psystar fold, but it was good to see them jabbing Apple's private little monopoly.
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This has hopefully been said, but if not here goes.

A company is NOT a monopoly simply because it has control over how its product is sold or used. Where you and everyone else who makes this argument go wrong is in confusing the product with the market. The market is operating systems not Mac OS. A product is rarely its own market.

There are tons of alternatives in this market and some are far more established than Mac OS—Windows, Linux, BSD, HPUX, Solaris, et cetera. We're also, of course, ignoring the fact that a monopoly also has to actively leverage its position to stifle competition within that market. A company can lead the market by a wide margin and still not be a monopoly. A company can even offer the only product in the market and not be a monopoly.

Now what Psystar did was completely wrong. They ripped off Apple, the open source community, and now technically even The Pirate Bay. They used Apple's own trademark and product to sell their computers—albeit very few. That'd be like me repackaging Jiff as Jaff and saying it contains 100% real Jiff peanut butter.
 
appleguy123 said:
1) I realize I should have said they're and have fixed it since them. What I mean by "They're not a company like Apple" is that Psystar makes their money by far less honorable practices than Apple.
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I don't think anybody argues with that. Psystar operates with very little respect to other people's property. I just called you out on something that was glaringly wrong.
 
intel said:
It's like buying a turbo made for BMW by BMW and installing it in my chevvy and then if i wanted a spare part for 'that' (rightfully mine and paid for) turbo, it will be altered so that my turbo and engine becomes completely disfunctional.
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So by this logic you're saying that if I purchase tires and locking lug nuts from Jeep for my Mustang and rip my fenders off when I turn, it's Jeep's fault? 😀
 
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JAT said:
Didja know that "internalize" means to stew over something internally and not put it out in public? Like on a website?
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You may want to familiarize yourself with the definition on "internalize" before embarrassing yourself on a public website😉
 
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