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Psystar Asks for Donations, Sells 'I Sued Psystar' T-Shirts
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Yeah, so?
FYI, the PPC happened to be an Apple–IBM–Motorola alliance.
Steve was gone from 1986-1997, what are you talking about?
As part of a quiet payoff made by MS, estimated to be in the US$500 million-$2 billion range, Apple in turn agreed to make Internet Explorer the default browser over Netscape, and Microsoft agreed to continue developing Office and other software for the Mac for the next 5 years, while purchasing $150 million of non-voting Apple stock.
MS's payoff was a settlement, made in an effort to avoid a massive lawsuit.
These so called toy computers, from 1998 on, sold well enough on their own, without any assistance from the 'halo effect,' which really didn't kick in until October 2003, when iTunes was released for Windows.
Wrong, Xerox granted them access to PARC for the right to acquire $1,000,000 of pre-IPO stock. Nothing was stolen, except for the Mac OS itself, under the guise of 'Windows.'
OS X is a derivative of 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD. The core of OS X is built on the XNU kernel (part Mach, part FreeBSD, part Apple-derived code) and a userland, much of which comes from FreeBSD. It's GUI is genuine, and is hardly a rip-off.
Not even close to the sheer magnitude of yours.
Dmann, this is the same guy who just LOVES C# but never actually gave a reason why. Not even because its a nice language to use. Just because...
I just HOPE with all my technological soul that the next iteration of Mac OS uses a fully featured kernel like FreeBSD 7+ or Linux 2.6.30+ or Minix 3. Mach is nice, but its so called Pluses of its Hybrid Kernel exist in most Unix monolithic kernels now anyway or just aren't needed.
Do you know how old FreeBSD 6 is compared to its modern iteration!?
Opinions based on hearsay, with neither merit, knowledge, nor experience to back them up.
Just because.....
Would love to see OS X or XI move to FreeBSD 7.2, or Minix 3, for that matter - I wonder what might have been, had Ave Tevanian stayed on.
Though Linux has the fastest development, and performs faster than Minix. Apple is already used to an open-source style kernel development. FreeBSD, is really FreeBSD... its reliable. If Apple used a fully functioning EFI system and actually leveraged its abilities, a lot the -es of Monolithic Kernels would vanish. More particularly, driver problems.
If Ave stayed on it would be more posts fighting against Linus and ignoring constructive criticism. I think Minix is going to stay a teaching tool for a very long time.
Winni, the same can be said for your attitude on this forum. For all your talk about Apple's flaws I've yet to see you behave like a positive and responsible member of this community. Instead of wasting time on pointless forum debates, please try your hand at something a little more constructive. Maybe offer help in one of the support forums occasionally?
I meant that if you could ignite it it would be a grease/oil fire instead. I doubt that it'd start a fire from the tank since it'd never make it to the engine being as heavy as it is.
No, Apple suing Psystar is a big tough boy kicking a small boy's bum because he refuses to stop annoying him after multiple warnings.
little kid: hihihihihi *girlie laugh* I can slap you in the nads and you can't do anything.
big kid: please stop it...
little kid: hihiihihihiihihihi this is so funny!!!
big kid: *pushes the small kid softly and he falls to the ground* enough... go away...
little kid: hihihihihihihihihihi *kicks big kid in the nads again even harder*
...
... *after another billion repetitions of this*
...
big kid: LOOK JUST F*%$ OFF YOU LITTLE S&%*!!!! I'M SICK OF IT!!!! *throws a big punch, knocking out the little kid instantly*
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That's all Apple's done. They're sick of Psystar:
a) Pirating MacOS (they buy the upgrade version for $30 and sell it on boxes that aren't upgrading.)
b) Breaking Apple's EULA.
c) Just not going away (taking this issue to multiple small, local courts in the hope that some drunken judge will rule in their favour, only to be overturned on appeal.)
So finally they've said "look... just stop being @ssholes, or we'll make sure you regret it..." and they've won (again) in a ruling that SHOULD bankrupt Psystar. Now they're crying for us to give them money. One answer... NO! If Apple opens up a kitty to pay for its legal fees + time wasted (which could be spent improving my Apple products rather than bickering with Psystar) then I'll donate to it.
The USA's weird... Apple shouldn't have to win rulings in EVERY state and county. I much prefer 99.99% of other countries on earth where the states are actually "united" (i.e. a ruling in one state stands in all other states.) Why is the "United States" the only country on earth where the states aren't united on legal rulings? A fist full of irony...
Don't get me started on that. The traffic laws in every state are different, even though any state's license is valid in all of them. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse therefore you must know the various different laws of every state you drive in. We have a national passport, but not a national driver's license.
I think state's rights should be respected, but some things need to be under federal law. At least federal traffic laws would make speed trap towns cease to exist.
A lot of things here don't make sense. I could write a book.
Copyright IS handled under federal law. It does not vary from state to state. The courts hearing this are federal district courts. The subject matter of the two suits is different, but the laws are the same.
How about:
I "bought" a Psystar and all I got was a badass mac for a third of the price
I "bought" a Psystar and all I got was a badass mac for a third of the price
In perhaps the final chapter to the Psystar saga, Psystar has updated their website over the holidays with a letter explaining that they have suspended sales of the Rebel EFI software product as they await clarification from the courts.
Meanwhile, in an apparent effort to raise funding, they are asking for $20-$100 donations on their website and also selling a $15 T-Shirt that reads "I sued Psystar" on the front and "... and all I got was a lousy injunction." on the back.
Psystar was an unauthorized Mac clone manufacturer that was sued by Apple earlier this year for copyright infringement and DMCA violations. The final verdict came just a couple of weeks ago forcing Psystar to shut down by year's end.
Article Link: Pystar Asks for Donations, Sells 'I Sued Psystar' T-Shirts
The injunction is stopping them. They are forbidden from assisting, inducing, and contributing to infringement of Apple's copyrights. If they opened a new company they would presumably only sell any computers if they advertised them as being "MacOSX-ready." In doing that they are inducing copyright infringement.
I know. I never meant to imply that it varied. Though I admit that seems implied by the way I quoted that. I generally quote the entire paragraph so that context can be maintained but in this case I shouldn't have. I should have just quoted this:
Why is the "United States" the only country on earth where the states aren't united on legal rulings?
When I said don't get me started on the US not being united on legal rulings, I had things like punishments for crimes and traffic laws in mind. For instance, I recently got a speedtrap ticket in GA though I live in FL. In GA it's 3 points. In FL it's 4 and Florida law (unlike some other states) not only acknowledges tickets from other states but punishes you as if it happened here—except that you can't take a course to get insurance hikes off of your back.
Sorry, I intended my off-topic rant to actually be further off-topic than it seemed! Also, sorry for going so far off-topic!
Wouldn't that also be trademark infringement as they are also using Mac OS X in their advertising?
It's not trademark infringement because it's referential use - the words "Mac OS X" don't confuse the customer into thinking the OS is made by Psystar - instead the words merely refer to the product made by Apple.
As for the rest, we're actually not the only country with different laws in different jurisdictions, but, in any event, there is a very good reason for it. When the United States formed by ratification of the Constitution, each state agreed to give up certain powers and to vest those powers in the federal government. All other powers (often called the "police power") were retained by the states - only the powers specifically mentioned in the Constitution were to go to the federal government. The 10th Amendment reflects this, in fact.
This has been an important facet of our national heritage - the citizens of each state determine most of the laws that affect them on a daily basis, and each state can act as a test platform for different policies and ways of doing business. I know that as a New Yorker/Californian I certainly wouldn't want to be subject to the laws of Texas, and I'm sure Texans feel the same way about California and NY. And California has a Spanish heritage that is reflected in its constitution and laws (e.g.: community property) that NY, while NY has some features of Dutch law. Since people are free to move, they can move to the state they want. California laws on non-compete agreements, for example, helped result in silicon valley. Delaware laws on commerce result in most companies being incorporated there. NY laws on finance result in Wall Street.
Another reason laws aren't all federal is that people don't want to be subject to federal jurisdiction for local matters. Do we really want Congress, which has just a few people from our own state, making laws that effect us? Senators deciding if our potholes get filled?
Gotcha.
I know the reasons and I know we're not alone in that, but there are a few things I think should be federal. I'm definitely not saying that everything should be. I think penalties for crimes and offenses should be consistent for every state. Cities and states should also have the right to acknowledge crimes or offenses that other states do not (city parking fines for example). However, I think that the city should have to respect the fines set up on a national scale so that they can't gouge people to make money.
I think traffic laws should be the same in every state. U turns should not be illegal in one state and legal in another for example. 15mph over the speed limit shouldn't be 4 points in one state and 3 in another. The penalties should also be the same. The same speeding ticket in GA is $50 cheaper than FL and one point less.
Of course this can also result in problems. What happens to gun laws, capital punishment, etc? Still, I'd rather those things be handled federally because I don't like the idea that in one state I can do something legally, like carry a gun, and in another it's illegal. And if said activity is legal in your state, you can't use that as an excuse.
I like the benefits that would occur. IDs would be nationally recognizable. I wouldn't need to check the laws to know if/how I can transport any weapons. I wouldn't need to worry about doing a U turn in another state or getting caught in a speed trap—which would cease to exist as the proceeds would be federal.
Perhaps this goes down a bad slope. I do recognize the problems. However, I also believe that the current system is far from perfect and definitely more complex.
Winni obviously needs to learn to do his research.
Because if the reason Apple is selling iPods is to save themselves then.. why.. OH WHY is Microsoft selling Xbox and Zune again?
O c wot i did thar?
Also, I find the T-shirts very humorous but I also find it lame that they are trying to sell them to people for donations.
Because if the reason Apple is selling iPods is to save themselves then.. why.. OH WHY is Microsoft selling Xbox and Zune again?
O c wot i did thar?
Also, I find the T-shirts very humorous but I also find it lame that they are trying to sell them to people for donations.
A Quadcore would be crappier than an iMac, sure.
Macs are personal computers! Furthermore, they have standard Intel CPUs and graphic cards from Nvidia or ATI inside them and you think they're still unique?
Speak for yourself. I want MacOS, but I'm not willing to shove so much money up Apple's bum.
I want Xbox 360 OS and I don't want to shove the money up Microsoft's bum for their poorly designed hardware (As in the case). Gosh... I guess I could just hack a PS3 to run the 360 OS. It's just hardware, after all.
I had one 360 that sounded like a buzzsaw after only 4 months and another with dvd drive issues.
Shoddiest console hardoware I've ever owned. I have never experienced RROD tho so I'm lucky in that respect.