No he means 5,000. 100 pennies equals 1 dollar. Therefore, 500 pennies would equal 5 dollars xD
Good point. Only you mean 500![]()
Good point. Only you mean 500![]()
Go Psystar!!!!!! A company should be allowed to protect it's IP... but if I legally buy a product, I should be able to use it *any* which way I choose.
Just out of curiosity has anybody been to psystar.com recently ?
Who's stealing? Retail copies of OSX are available for purchase at a number of retailers... This seems to do nothing but add choice in hardware. Apple already sells their product for around 200 USD so assuming the install disc was purchased, nobody is stealing anything.
I understand the thought processes behind Apple's hardware restriction (profit and compatibility) but if someone is willing to buy retail and go it alone with non-standard hardware I don't see who's getting hurt.
Whats the big deal?
Tell me, what makes "The PC" an open platform? What is a PC? Define it please. There is no one singular platform called a PC. There are many different types of PC's, and many of them are not considered to be open in any sense of the word. Dropping the "license crap" would be the end of the business of Apple, and the entire industry would suffer because of it. Instead of Apple changing the way they do business, you need to change the way you think about things. If Apple doesn't defend their right to do business the way they choose, everyone loses (even if they don't own a Mac).
jW
It's hilarious that their site is down...
when do you and some other idiots dont understand, that APPLE DOESN´T WANT THEIR OSX OPPENED.
i´m totally agree with that, dont you see windows exemple , huge problems ,virus trojans,
apple doesnt´t need 90% of the open market.
i dont want apple with 90% of the open market if third party software and low specs hardware doesnt make the osx run well .
me and some millions prefer to be only 10% of the market and run the osx WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. with nice hardware specs.
apple is creating a enjoyable experience using a mac.
to the users that, dont have money to buy a original HARDWARE FROM APPLE STORE, dont have ,money for buying a simple $0.99 APP, SHOULNT´T HAVE A IPHONE OR A MAC LAPTOP .
apple is nothing giving what you except???? , too expensive????please go to the windows stores, you being there ??? not satisfied on what the competition offer ????? you still whant the mac????? go to work lazy bastard like i do everyday......
i cannot affort on the day of the release , but save for 6 months and buy one when is possible ,AND I´M HAPPY WITH IT.
Yes, amusing ideed.
What the hell does "Reason Code: IE" mean on a whois record, cos psystar.com's record was updated at 17:15 EDT today![]()
This is Apple's fault. They told people it was an upgrade and you must have Leopard installed.. but Apple lied. The $29 OS can install a full version even if you don't have Leopard.
Umm, their website is down... I wonder why...?
I almost want to go out and buy a Psystar system just to piss some of you off...![]()
And you're wrong; Microsoft & Apple are in deed in the same business. They each make operating systems which then peddle to the general public.
im with youAPPLE IS ACTUALLY DOING BETTER EVERY QUARTER WHILE OTHERS ARE LOSING MONEY. EVEN MICROSOFT'S PROFITS ARE WAY DOWN. WHILE APPLE IS DOING GREAT DURING A RECESSION. You know what? maybe you are on to something. They should change their model from what is blowing the doors off of everyone else, to go to what they are doing. Allow increase support cost by a factor of 1000 for all of the different configurations and then maybe increase market share by double. Only instead of making $500-800 on each sale they make 90 - 120. Then allow others to make garbage versions of their products and create an army of dissatisfied customers calling them while the clones actually steal profitable sales from them. I think that makes a lot of sense. Keep in mind that Microsoft makes 90 percent of their money from manufacturer who pre-install windows. Consumers do choose them. They use their threat of the unknown to keep the HPs in line and other times just pay them off to keep others from competing.
The problem with Microsoft is there really is no way to support every configuration, and they know it. Apple is doing it right. Their way of doing things was working from the start, then the fell into the Microsoft trap. Keep in mind Microsoft is a sneaky crafty company and they are always looking to cut your throat. They pushed the whole Idea of clones to Apple first, they didn't bite. And a company who is not as cut throat as MS would not have succeeded with this model. They try to kill competition in any way possible but not by actually making a better product. When Apple follow them they lost their way and almost went under. Now they are back on track and can't be stopped.
Those that want Apple to fail want them to try it again. Thank God Jobs is not that stupid!
when do you and some other idiots dont understand, that APPLE DOESN´T WANT THEIR OSX OPPENED.
i´m totally agree with that, dont you see windows exemple , huge problems ,virus trojans,
apple doesnt´t need 90% of the open market.
i dont want apple with 90% of the open market if third party software and low specs hardware doesnt make the osx run well .
me and some millions prefer to be only 10% of the market and run the osx WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. with nice hardware specs.
apple is creating a enjoyable experience using a mac.
to the users that, dont have money to buy a original HARDWARE FROM APPLE STORE, dont have ,money for buying a simple $0.99 APP, SHOULNT´T HAVE A IPHONE OR A MAC LAPTOP .
apple is nothing giving what you except???? , too expensive????please go to the windows stores, you being there ??? not satisfied on what the competition offer ????? you still whant the mac????? go to work lazy bastard like i do everyday......
i cannot affort on the day of the release , but save for 6 months and buy one when is possible ,AND I´M HAPPY WITH IT.
Nope, I'm right. Apple is not in the software business like Microsoft is. Apple produces a vertically integrated solution in the form of hardware, OS and software. OS X is not a product in and of itself, the product is the Mac, and it is composed of the physical computer, Mac OS X running on it, and iLife/iWork and other software packages Apple sells.
They are more direct competitors to Dell, Toshiba, HP than to Microsoft. They have everything to lose from losing their hardware business. They don't make money off software, it's there to sell the underlying hardware. Apple loses a hardware sale when you install OS X on a non-Apple computer.
Microsoft on the other hand makes profit everytime someone licenses Windows from them. To install Windows on your Mac, you need to pay Microsoft. This is a win for them because that's what their business is, selling you Windows. They don't care on what hardware you install it on because their business is not hardware.
So maybe you should understand a thing or two about the market before you go off spouting nonsense.![]()
What's sickening is the fact that Psystar is trying to profit from this by selling them, something that they leeched for free from the OSx86 project. I hope the only one person that's willing to purchase this will put up a torrent on all trackers so nobody will give Psystar money. That's only fair.
My copy of Snow Leopard is going to be useful when I get home from work now.Wow, this is pretty sweet. If my x58 i7 rig is supported, I'll definitely be grabbing this and a copy of Snow Leopard. A Mac Pro for essentially $30 plus Psystar's program is a pretty good deal.
I know, seriously! What type of purely greedy computer manufacturer allows one to also boot the OS of the competition (*coughs Boot Camp*). What a disgraceful profiteering racket.
Some people in this thread are really stupid.
Careful. You *really* have to be right now. Let's see how you do . . .
Calling the people who fund Psystar "Windows lovers" or "Apple haters" is just a statement of how sad you are.
Have you seen the way Psystar operates? Never mind the IP/EULA issues, just take a gander at the way they've been doing business. Thety couldn't even produce basic accounting information for court. Their conduct alone casts certain aspersions over not only them, but the integrity of their "legal team", such that it is. Exactly ehat level of customr support do you think these clowns are willing to offer the average user? Dollars-to-donuts, once Joe Average goes Psystar, he's on his own, in a big way.
This has gotten fanboy written all over it. Stop instantly loving everything Apple ever does and start thinking with your brains for a minute please.
Give me a good reason not to love Apple and what they do. Macs + OS X is the entire reason we're here. You like Macs and OS X, great. That means you also need to buy in to their business model, because that is EXACTLY why OS X is as great as it is. You can't have it both ways.
Nobody is asking Apple to start putting more work into making OS X work with PCs. The fact is that right now Apple is actively putting work into NOT making it work with PCs.
You can stil play with hackintoshes and do your own research. Or is Apple supposed to make it easier for you?? Do you think you're entitled??
All we ask is that Apple stops doing that. The PC is an open platform,
Until you decide to run a business selling Windows without a license. That "open" platform will close up real fast.
Apple chose to start using it when they switched to Intel processors, this is no longer _their_ hardware, it's just their configuration of standards. They have no right to lock their software to an open hardware platform and claim that it is legit because it's their complete product.
Intel is just fine with it. Apple is in a partnership with Intei. They were also in a partnership with Motorola. Intel just happens to be used by Microsoft as well.
Sooner or later Apple will lose this right via court.
Based on the magnificent progress Psystar has been making against Apple?? They're barely treading water at this point.
That will be a painful day for an unprepared Apple.
Do you honesly think that Apple, the Masters of Litigtation, are unprepared??? Hell, forget litigation . . . they've utterly defied a recession. Apple's insight and forethought is legendary.
If Apple decided however to stop fighting this today, I don't see anything they could lose.
Except their entire business model, record profits, and the very things that make OS X desirable. Nothing much, really.
They can stop putting work into locking up OS X and nobody asks them to put a special effort into making it run on PCs either. Just drop the license crap, let everyone who buys it use it on even their toaster if they get it to run, and everyone will be happy.
That "everyone will be happy line" is interesting. Just who is everyone? Because consumers right now, are more than happy with Apple's business model. In fact, consumers have been handing Apple record quarter after record quarter. Have you not been keeping up with current events? Apple's mac business is booming. Just who is this "everyone" you're referring to? Your hackintosh hobby doesn't mean squat outside of these little Apple forums. Why are you attempting to create the existence of demand when there really isn't any??
My copy of Snow Leopard is going to be useful when I get home from work now.![]()