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So you are saying a wealthy, successful business man is going to aspire to buy an Apple Watch over a high end Rolex? LMAO!!!! wait, let me catch my breath...LMAO!!!! Some of you are straight up delusional.

Well I won't sell my Rolex or Panerai, but.... yes?!?!

Sometimes I wish everyone could have money so they would see how dumb the things they say are.

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The internal combustion engine is very much still going strong ;)

Sorry you clearly don't understand what a quality mechanical watch means and why smart watches will not impact those sales. Looking at a blank screen on someone's wrist.... Think about it

I know a lot of people with nice watches who are all very interested in Apple Watch.

Your argument is dumb. If it was true rich people would carry Vertu phones. The Apple Watch is a game changer and any watchmaker under $1,000 should be very very afraid.
 
Swiss watches are little more than jewelry. The Apple Watch is jewelry that is infinitely more functional. You may as well buy a fancy horse-drawn carriage.

Honestly, how many people do you think are going to look at a one-trick pony watch, and a watch that can provide so much more functionality, and choose the more expensive, less functional one?

You clearly miss the point entirely if you equate Swiss, hand-made, precision engineered, heirloom-quality timepieces with mass-produced, obsolete within 2 years, battery powered smart watches.

The Apple watch you just bought will be worth maybe 1/2 of the price you paid in 5 years. A Rolex, Panerai or Omega can actually appreciate in value over time. They are investment pieces, revered precisely because of their intricately designed gear movements.

Now truthfully, the Apple watch could very well spell the end for the likes of cheap (but serviceable) quartz automatics from Seiko, Citizen and the like. But even then, a G-Shock is still pretty disposable for the ruggedness it offers versus an Apple Watch.

I don't want hate but i would honestly buy a samsung watch if it was compatible with the apple OS. Like apple is famous because its just famous. But I'm still an apple boy fan. :D:cool:

LOL, you want to buy a first gen Galaxy Gear cheap? Drop me a PM.
 
Let me put it another way, if Apple launches an apple car, do you believe the likes of BMW, Mercedes, rolls Royce will lose sales ?? People who buy high end watches are in the same position.

The difference is that Mercedes is at the cutting edge of technology and constantly innovating, Rolex is not.
 
Now truthfully, the Apple watch could very well spell the end for the likes of cheap (but serviceable) quartz automatics from Seiko, Citizen and the like. But even then, a G-Shock is still pretty disposable for the ruggedness it offers versus an Apple Watch.

The way I see it, I'd spend $500-$1000 for a nice Movado, Tissot, or ESQ Quartz watch made from the same $12 quartz movement as a $50 Timex. For roughly the same price I can get a Stainless Steel Apple Watch with a decent, albeit mass-produced leather band or Milanese Loop band. Sure, it might be obsolete in a few years, but the Apple Watch price isn't outrageous.

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Your argument is dumb. If it was true rich people would carry Vertu phones. The Apple Watch is a game changer and any watchmaker under $1,000 should be very very afraid.

Agreed. Rolex, Patek Philippe, and the like are safe. Movado, Swatch, and Michael Kors ought to be worried. For the same general price you can get the Apple Watch, which has a lot of functionality, and is just as well made. The Stainless Steel Apple Watch looks like a nice tank-style watch that happens to have smart functions.
 
Not aspire, but definitely more interested in the Apple Watch than a high end Rolex (why did you choose Rolex?!?).

So you are saying a wealthy, successful business man is going to aspire to buy an Apple Watch over a high end Rolex? LMAO!!!! wait, let me catch my breath...LMAO!!!! Some of you are straight up delusional.
 
Went to Starbucks this morning. Tried to pay using Passbook on my Apple Watch, as I was moving my watch toward the NFC terminal to pay, I guess the gal didn't see me holding a phone, so thought I was paying cash, so she started to reach toward my hand, then she realized I was using my watch for the payment. That was the first time she seen someone paying using Apple Watch, and started to ask a few questions, like how did I get it? Did I need to make an appointment to purchase it? How much was it? After I told her it was about $600 (42mm SS sport band), she was shocked and said that's the price of a phone!
 
My students thought it was cool. A lot of interest from fellow teachers. A lot were interested in the fitness apps.
 
I'm waiting for a stranger to notice the watch that feels like they need to let me know they think it really serves no purpose. Like I could give a rats ass about what they think! Now if a stranger thinks it cool then that is a different story LOL
 
The difference is that Mercedes is at the cutting edge of technology and constantly innovating, Rolex is not.

I don't know about that... I was just browsing the Rolex site from a link on another thread... looks like they do quite a bit of work, including their own in-house lubricants (which is apparently unique to their brand) and a number of things I don't understand with the gear mechanics. I would say they innovate with their own domain of expertise, at least from browsing the notes on their 2015 collection.
 
The idea of having to put your watch on charge every day just sucks, I have a Casio GBA 400. That will do me just fine :)

I find people who compare smart watch with other kinds of watches like cuartz etc, absolutely ignorant!! And to even compare battery life? It's like comparing Nokia 3310 with today's smartphones!! But hey ho, each to their own. I actually have someone at work who uses one of these old Nokia phones. He is so proud that he only have to charge it once a week or so. And then do pretty much nothing with it.
 
I don't know about that... I was just browsing the Rolex site from a link on another thread... looks like they do quite a bit of work, including their own in-house lubricants (which is apparently unique to their brand) and a number of things I don't understand with the gear mechanics. I would say they innovate with their own domain of expertise, at least from browsing the notes on their 2015 collection.

And my Omega Speedmaster DSOTM is made from Zirconium Oxide and Ceramics. Clearly the premium/luxury watch makers are innovating way beyond aluminum and stainless steel.

The leather backed teflon coated nylon strap with a ceramic buckle itself is something that even Jony Ive would drool over.

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And my Omega Speedmaster DSOTM is made from Zirconium Oxide and Ceramics. Clearly the premium/luxury watch makers are innovating way beyond aluminum and stainless steel.

The leather backed teflon coated nylon strap with a ceramic buckle itself is something that even Jony Ive would drool over.

That is not innovation. Resorting to ever more exotic materials only highlights the lack of innovation and downright stagnation in the mechanical watch space. True innovations are few and far in between. Making the case out of unobtanium might sway some rich fools or seekers of exclusivity into buying it, but it ain't innovation.
 
That is not innovation. Resorting to ever more exotic materials only highlights the lack of innovation and downright stagnation in the mechanical watch space. True innovations are few and far in between. Making the case out of unobtanium might sway some rich fools or seekers of exclusivity into buying it, but it ain't innovation.

is the apple watch really innovative? I think it will be....eventually.
 
Most of people's are just staring on it but without acquaintance how could they came to me and ask about it but friends are so fascinated by it and also want it on their wrist.
 
No public reaction. Did have a few excited Apple store employees ask me how I liked it when I went in looking for bands on the 24th. They said I was the second person they saw with the watch all day. (~6:30PM)


Strange how you get that reaction from Apple Store employees when they play with them all day long...
 
High quality mechanical watches aren't going to go away because of smart watches. Lower quality ones probably will at some point, though.

But anyone who has the means and interest to buy a "high end Rolex" might also decide to pick up an Apple Watch Edition on a whim, as a curiosity or occasional wear watch. The Edition pricing starts in the ballpark of Rolex's lower end models.

I've been reading these posts for a while... I too have been collecting "high-end" swiss watches - for me they are my art (if that makes sense).

Now, I wear my apple watch 90% of the time - at work, around the house and day-to-day use it has so much more functionality than a "regular" watch I just find it too practical to take it off. However, If I am going out to a nice meal or party, I will swap it for one of my nice watches.

I don't see the apple watch as fashionable, I see it as a practical, unoffensive new piece of technology that I am quite fond off.

On a side note, I think I will sell most of my casual swiss watches and just keep the formal ones. (e.g. I've been looking at my Steve McQueen Tag Monaco and thinking "when will I ever wear this again"... but I will keep my IWCs as they are more formal)

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Strange how you get that reaction from Apple Store employees when they play with them all day long...

They are trained to compliment new apple products. If they wend a receipt to your email and you pull out your new iPhone to check, you will get a reassuring "nice..." comment or something of the sort
 
I see a lot of people during my work day and I didn't get too many funny looks, to tell the truth. I did get one "Wow, awesome", but otherwise pretty little recognition, which is the way I like it :)
 
No, they're not. Those cars are all modern. The old, clunky, poor-performing mechanical watches are not. They are a throwback to an era that has just entered its death throes.

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Who's going to "aspire" to a piece of ancient tech? "Gee, I want to spend thousands of dollars on a watch that can barely tell time!"

Nope. Only superficial, "style over substance" people will want such toys.

Seriously, I've never read such nonsense, LOL.

What is some butt-ugly e-car compared to a classic Ferrari, Aston, Porsche whatever. Same with watches. It's about craftsmanship, tradition, design, understatement (obviously not talking about a 25 bucks analog watch). The Apple Watch is a mass produced device after all never mind the couple of Editions in the world.

I ordered an Apple Watch myself but I do believe that it won't have that big of an impact to the classic high quality watch industry. There will always be people who appreciate the craftsmanship and design of a classic watch a LOT. Sometimes a couple of hundred parts put together amazingly. Even if they only wear it for special occasions like wedding, going out to a nice restaurant, having a date or whatever there WILL be people who buy them.

I am pretty sure you were born in the 90's or live in a cave with internet connection otherwise I couldn't explain your complete lack of understanding, LOL. Also, you're full of yourself, LOL again.
 
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I am assuming that you're talking about fiddling around with your watch, because I don't think Startbucks stores have any NFC terminal at this time. Unless, I'm wrong and that'd be amazing.

Apple pay on my watch at Whole Foods and my Starbucks Card using passbook on the watch. I reload my starbucks card with Apple pay.

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Yes and no. It doesn't work with Apple Pay, but you can pay using your Starbucks card on the watch in passbook.

So, you 'can' pay using your watch, but just not 'Apple Pay'.

http://blogs.starbucks.com/blogs/customer/archive/2015/04/24/starbucks-app-apple-watch.aspx

But I do reload my Starbucks card using Apple pay;).
 
And my Omega Speedmaster DSOTM is made from Zirconium Oxide and Ceramics. Clearly the premium/luxury watch makers are innovating way beyond aluminum and stainless steel.

The leather backed teflon coated nylon strap with a ceramic buckle itself is something that even Jony Ive would drool over.

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Brilliant watch! Its a piece of art and engineering compared to the Apple watch which is a toy. Though many on here do not understand that.

Putting a computer in a watch is not innovation. Its an accessory to an iphone, I have been using my AW since 24, and the swiss watch industry has nothing to worry about, the general public reaction is that noone cares, I get far more compliments from when I wear my Rolex Deep sea.

The The dark side is my next watch, love it!

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Well I won't sell my Rolex or Panerai, but.... yes?!?!

Sometimes I wish everyone could have money so they would see how dumb the things they say are.

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I know a lot of people with nice watches who are all very interested in Apple Watch.

Your argument is dumb. If it was true rich people would carry Vertu phones. The Apple Watch is a game changer and any watchmaker under $1,000 should be very very afraid.

Rich people do carry Vertu phones.

You missing the point of smart watches V mechanical. Apple is not about to conquer the under $1K markert, cause most people do not care about smart watches.

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The difference is that Mercedes is at the cutting edge of technology and constantly innovating, Rolex is not.

No, Mercedes is luxury.

If you want cutting edge, a Japanese GTR will humble a merc round a race track. ;) just to prove an example.

Owing a mechanical watch is not about cutting edge, its about the movement, and build quality. A $10 Quartz watch is more accurate than any mechanical watch.
 
That is not innovation. Resorting to ever more exotic materials only highlights the lack of innovation and downright stagnation in the mechanical watch space. True innovations are few and far in between. Making the case out of unobtanium might sway some rich fools or seekers of exclusivity into buying it, but it ain't innovation.

I see.

So Gorilla Glass, Sapphire Glass for Apple Watch and fingerprint sensors....these are all just overpriced materials that aren't innovative either then, right?

Or is it just that you value innovation only when it's in a price range that is comfortable to you?

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Brilliant watch! Its a piece of art and engineering compared to the Apple watch which is a toy. Though many on here do not understand that.

Putting a computer in a watch is not innovation. Its an accessory to an iphone, I have been using my AW since 24, and the swiss watch industry has nothing to worry about, the general public reaction is that noone cares, I get far more compliments from when I wear my Rolex Deep sea.

The The dark side is my next watch, love it!

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Thanks, best investment in a timepiece I've ever made.

Something about how they managed to get slightly two-tone shiny finish out of ceramics that won't scratch....just wow. Almost as hard as diamond, twice as hard and lighter than steel. Makes all other black-coated stainless steel watches look shabby by comparison.

Plus being a geek, something about the moon watches......
 
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The Apple Watch might draw comments now but only because its another Apple gadget that people haven't mucked around with yet, not because its a gorgeous or interesting watch.

After a few months people will care about as much as they do when you pull your iPhone out.

The world will continue to spin and the Swiss watch industry will move on.
 
So Gorilla Glass, Sapphire Glass for Apple Watch and fingerprint sensors....these are all just overpriced materials that aren't innovative either then, right?

They are innovations, but not Apple's and not unique to smartwatches. My point was that since there has been almost no innovation in the mechanical watch space for some 50 years makers of those watches adorn them with whatever they can find from outside the field of horology – usually fancy materials. The core of what they do and where they should be innovating – the watch movement – remains largely unchanged. The typical Rolex buyer doesn't mind, a carbon fibre or Kevlar band is enough reason to buy another Rolex, as long as it has a crown on the (Taiwan-made) dial.

Or is it just that you value innovation only when it's in a price range that is comfortable to you?

No I value it also when it is way out of my (and most likely your) price range. Exhibit A: Lange 31.
 
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