It's a gimmick that gives you a general idea. It's not meant to be a medical grade device. So in this sense, Masimo is in the wrong as Apple does not make medical grade devices. This is how I view it.
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Pulse Ox Company Masimo Accuses Apple of Delaying Legal Battle to Sell More Apple Watches
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It looks like this case may have some merit for Masimo.
Don't you understand what the article says? Apple reportedly stole their intellectual property and key employees so they could make their own solution without having to share the revenues
Wait, when did the Apple Watch became a medical product in my eyes? 😂 😂 😂
Ok, in all seriousness, I never viewed the Apple Watch as an 100% reliable "medical product" even back when I first got a Series 2. All it was, was a smart watch to me, with cool features that helps me monitor my health but not 100% accurate due to its design limitations.
It's a very useful gadget to help monitor health for sure. But a medical device or even clinical grade? Nah, this is a device just for reference. PERIOD =___=!
Ok, in all seriousness, I never viewed the Apple Watch as an 100% reliable "medical product" even back when I first got a Series 2. All it was, was a smart watch to me, with cool features that helps me monitor my health but not 100% accurate due to its design limitations.
It's a very useful gadget to help monitor health for sure. But a medical device or even clinical grade? Nah, this is a device just for reference. PERIOD =___=!
Darth Tulhu
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I don't have all the facts regarding each of your claims of malfeasance, so I'll leave that to the (better-educated-in-the-law-than-me) judges to decide.
But is it possible that the alternative is also true? That Apple is actually trying to make the world better while making money?
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
I guess I'm just not ready to be that cynical with Apple yet, given the fact that I judge people (and companies) based on what they (actually) do, not on what they say (they're going to do).
This is no doubt worthy of looking into by the appropriate authorities.
Companies exist to turn a profit no matter what they sell. Business is not about your feelings.
Go ahead and call BS on these people.
My Apple Watch saved my life: 5 people share their stories
For these people, the Apple Watch changed their lives.www.cnet.com
You're taking it out of context. All of those stories are about pre-AW6 experiences. Masimo's gripe is with the AW6, specifically the pulse oximetry tech in it. Unless Apple can show that their readings are clinically reliable, then I would agree it's a BS gimmick.
If that's the extent of its reliability, might as well just have a reminder pop up every few days reminding people to go for a check up. By not limiting the scope to blood-oxygen problems, they'd save a lot more lives.
You must be an employee to talk like that. But yes let's goliath kill everyone. We're only years ahead from Apple selling iFood after suffocating vegetables producers.
Not sure Masimo are going to sell many clincal grade pulse oximeters to consumers. A quick look on Amazon UK shows only 1 Masimo product costing £280 (~$360). Can't see many people choosing that over an Apple Watch. Also, I would suggest that Massimo should look at implementing non-poaching clauses in their NDAs.
I don't have all the facts regarding each of your claims of malfeasance, so I'll leave that to the (better-educated-in-the-law-than-me) judges to decide.
But is it possible that the alternative is also true? That Apple is actually trying to make the world better while making money?
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
I guess I'm just not ready to be that cynical with Apple yet, given the fact that I judge people (and companies) based on what they (actually) do, not on what they say (they're going to do).
This is no doubt worthy of looking into by the appropriate authorities.
Apple Takes Legal Action Against Small Company With Pear Logo
Apple is taking legal action against the developers of the app "Prepear" due to its logo, according to iPhone in Canada. Prepear is an app...
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Darth Tulhu
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From Apple's Watch website:
"Blood Oxygen app measurements are not intended for medical use, including self-diagnosis or consultation with a doctor, and are only designed for general fitness and wellness purposes."
"Blood Oxygen app measurements are not intended for medical use, including self-diagnosis or consultation with a doctor, and are only designed for general fitness and wellness purposes."
Regardless what the product does, How is it OK for Apple to steal other companies' technology? iF they are interested they can license it or buy them. But stealing is not ok.
Darth Tulhu
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I see no issue with Apple's arguments regarding that case.Apple Takes Legal Action Against Small Company With Pear Logo
Apple is taking legal action against the developers of the app "Prepear" due to its logo, according to iPhone in Canada. Prepear is an app...
Given the subjective nature of "artwork", I'd be ok with whatever the decision the judge takes on that one, whether it be pro or against Apple.
I see the word wellness thrown around all the time. What the heck does it even mean? Especially in the context of this blood oxygen sensor.
It means they didn’t feel like going through the FDA approvals to to be able to say it’s for medical purposes.
They have to say that for legal reasons since the sensor does not meet medical standards. But they let people think it's a medical device (or do they openly say it when purchasing, apart from the fine prints)
My grandmother, mom and dad all died from lung issues (lung cancer, pulmonary fibrosis, pulmonary hypertension/COPD) We do have a medical grade Pulse-Ox.
So basically a meaningless word. It sure feels like tech companies are just throwing sensors into devices because they feel they have to update these devices every year and need something new to sell the device. Either the data coming from these sensors is meaningful or it’s not. And if it’s not what’s the point of it?
I've seen this company "Masimo" randomly come up in advertisements with their crappy tech positioned as something futuristic out of nowhere lately. You can definitely tell they are afraid of being squished.
Speaking of squished, WTF happened to their logo? They intentionally used the horizontal resize tool to "squish" it.
Speaking of squished, WTF happened to their logo? They intentionally used the horizontal resize tool to "squish" it.
Here's what's interesting. If you wanna buy Massimo's MightSat from them directly they make it clear that it's not a medical device. But you can buy the same thing that *is* a medical device with a prescription. I'm sure it costs more.
It's all BS, basically.
It's all BS, basically.
That just means you can track the stats it provides but, you should not make any medical decisions based on any reading from the device. As with all data, one should consult his or her physician for confirmation of any reading from a wellness device.