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So salty from losing the modem deal in iphones. Funny how iphones are "suddenly" violating this patent once Apple kicked Qualcomm to the curb.

And a ruling in China. The leader in true enforcing of IP rights :rolleyes:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...tive-in-apple-suit-lawyer-boutrous-says-video
Don't be silly Apple still owes money from licensing it's not as much as Qualcomm is been asking though. But if Apple is not really guilty as you think why then change the behavior of the software they just admitted and went ahead for a change, that's exactly the word that Apple use "pushing an update to not violate Qualcomm's patent".
 
There is double blame here. Apple's success and large profits mean they're a good target for anyone with patents. Apple reacts to patents to tries to undermine them simply because many are trolling, they all get lumped into an area where apple wants them invalidated. It's understandable from Apple's POV. Qualcomm relies on patents to get it's money, if apple can ignore them other will follow, however Qualcomm has been double dipping charging twice for the same tech in the pipeline. That is underhanded and has stirred the beast. The problem with this case is that China cannot afford to lose apple longterm, they might decide to shift production to Brasil or India and develop their own IP that can be made by anyone with a facility with capabilities needed. China will not enforce a ban and Qualcomm should take the L but they're flexing their power but everyone knows it's non-existent.
 
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It's a sad state of affairs when what is essentially a chip/modem manufacturer has patents for resizing bloody wallpapers.

Patent law really need reforming. "Use it or lose it" should be a thing. Haven't actively worked on a product using your patent yourself for 3 years? You lose it. Would solve all of this BS.
Many of the graphics and processes intensive steps require cooperation from the hardware implementation for faster executions, most the API will have low level implementations may use these tailored algorithms for faster executions in conjunction with the specific hardware.
 
This "It's only software" sounds all a bit iffy on Apple's Claim.

If this whole copyright issue were genuinely just a couple of software tweaks then, they'd have done those tweaks ages and ages ago to avoid all of this.

Does not sound right at all.
Actually no.
I work for a company and our CEOs are lawyers. The premise is basically “if we happen to be sued, THEN we can change the software”
 
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I would not really call Qualcomm a "patent troll". Their R&D-budget is rather large, $1.4 billion per quarter.
If it's ok for Apple to defend rounded corners, I certainly think it's ok for Qualcomm to defend their IP.

Both of them are. These are serious accusations from Qualcomm, as "serious" as Apple made against Samsung and Microsoft/Novell against Linux (lol). I hope Apple pays for its crimes against the system it serves so religiously.

Jokes aside, let them all rot in hell.
 
True...I mean I don't side or support Qualcomm either since they also bully all over the world far too long...

Both have exactly the same exploitative mindset...milking the maximum

Yeap, big companies who like to laugh at some court rulings soon find that those courts don’t have a sense of humour... they do seem to believe the bigger or richer they are the more above the law they are.. it’s good when they get taken down a peg or two and reminded what they are meant to follow rules wise.

I also wanted to say to those on here claiming China doesn’t see Apple as important ergo it’s treatment in the courts towards them, that’s just blatant ignorance to believe that, the amount of money Apple pumps into the Chinese economy yearly is humongous, pretty much every single thing they sell is made there! Yet to try and push the blame onto the Chinese by you lot ‘imagining’ that’s not important to China is ridiculous. IMO
 
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Because they wouldn't be allowed.
Besides not being allowed, why would Apple want to spend 70 billion dollar to make a court case about a few billion go away?
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Many of the graphics and processes intensive steps require cooperation from the hardware implementation for faster executions, most the API will have low level implementations may use these tailored algorithms for faster executions in conjunction with the specific hardware.
Maybe, on the other hand, Qualcomm is just full of it. There is no Qualcomm hardware doing any graphics acceleration.
 
I would not really call Qualcomm a "patent troll". Their R&D-budget is rather large, $1.4 billion per quarter.
If it's ok for Apple to defend rounded corners, I certainly think it's ok for Qualcomm to defend their IP.

I just can't stop laughing whenever someone says "rounded corners" for the early iPhone clones from Samsung! They were literally indistinguishable from iPhones, everyone and their mother know is but they would want us to believe it was about the rounded corners. Yeah, right!
 
I just can't stop laughing whenever someone says "rounded corners" for the early iPhone clones from Samsung! They were literally indistinguishable from iPhones, everyone and their mother know is but they would want us to believe it was about the rounded corners. Yeah, right!
Samsung’s own lawyers could not distinguish their tablets from iPads in court.
 
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" related to resizing and reformatting photos for wallpaper" - Wow Qualcomm is really hard up for money huh when they are worried about wallpaper images.
 
Two American companies fighting over patent disputes in China. Meanwhile Huawei is expected to ship 250 million phones in 2019. You'd think they'd work out their disputes. China doesn't care if two American companies are feuding. That just means their domestic markets create more share.
250 million phones with 50 cents of profit from each one. Woo.
 
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Force Apple to develop a product that is clear of your patent, and watch them open it to other manufacturers and destroy you. It isn't necessarily a wise business practice to force one of your biggest customers to become independent of you. This will cost Qualcomm more than it does Apple in the long run regardless of what Apple ends up paying in the settlement.

Agreed. This will cost QC big time from 2021 on out. :apple:
 
I just can't stop laughing whenever someone says "rounded corners" for the early iPhone clones from Samsung! They were literally indistinguishable from iPhones, everyone and their mother know is but they would want us to believe it was about the rounded corners. Yeah, right!

Nobody says they weren't looking the same. The point is, Apple patented ROUNDED CORNERS on a phone, literally. So that's about it, people calling Qualcomm patent troll.
 
Nobody says they weren't looking the same. The point is, Apple patented ROUNDED CORNERS on a phone, literally. So that's about it, people calling Qualcomm patent troll.

This is sort of not right. That particular patent was a design patent. Not a utility patent. When people think about patents they usually think of “inventions.” That’s a utility patent, which is a different kind of patent. Design patents are more like copyright - they give you exclusive rights to the way something appears.

In this case the design patent was not for “rounded corners.” It was for the overall shape. When you get a design patent you provide a picture, and you are only entitled to what is in that picture. The round corners were certainly a primary distinguishing feature, but the whole “patent on round corners” argument is a gross mischaracterizstion both because it’s not accurate, and because most people don’t understand the difference between design and utility patents.
 
Two American companies fighting over patent disputes in China. Meanwhile Huawei is expected to ship 250 million phones in 2019. You'd think they'd work out their disputes. China doesn't care if two American companies are feuding. That just means their domestic markets create more share.
And? Apple sold 216M at an ASP of $761. What is Huawei's projected ASP?

Apple isn't interested in shipping junk phones for little or no profit.
 
Between Qualcomm's wacky license agreement and Apple's hand waving, and China being COMMUNIST, this can only be a dramatic and silly process leading to a fully random outcome. Prepare to BUY AAPL at about $127-135.

The guys in Austin are making a 5G baseband chip as we speak. Isn't Foxconn making an assembly plant in MI or MN or something?
 
So salty from losing the modem deal in iphones. Funny how iphones are "suddenly" violating this patent once Apple kicked Qualcomm to the curb.

And a ruling in China. The leader in true enforcing of IP rights :rolleyes:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...tive-in-apple-suit-lawyer-boutrous-says-video

Um... What ? It didn't "suddenly" violating this patent, it was because Apple had previously been paying everything from SEP on 2G/3G/4G + All of other Qualcomm Patents. Now they stopped paying, Qualcomm will have to enforce on those patents.

But seriously, this whole patents thing is getting silly. From IP money transfer to lower Tax to trade dispute.
 
So salty from losing the modem deal in iphones. Funny how iphones are "suddenly" violating this patent once Apple kicked Qualcomm to the curb.

And a ruling in China. The leader in true enforcing of IP rights :rolleyes:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/vide...tive-in-apple-suit-lawyer-boutrous-says-video
If you don't vigorously pursue violator you use your right.
How is it sour grapes when Qualcomm sues Apple but not when Apple sues Samsung for something similar.
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Except that Qualcomm has monopoly and they can't buy from another supplier.

Intel, but Intel still pays Qualcomm.
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Besides not being allowed, why would Apple want to spend 70 billion dollar to make a court case about a few billion go away?
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Maybe, on the other hand, Qualcomm is just full of it. There is no Qualcomm hardware doing any graphics acceleration.

Huh? Qualcomm Snapdragon chips have a Qualcomm designed GPU. Qualcomm has Adreno originally IP acquired from ATI Tech. They have been continuously developing their GPU. They have had a GPU longer than Apple. Apple was using Imagination Tech.
 
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