What nonsense a "patent troll" is someone who aquires a patent then sits on it producing nothing
You telling me Qualcomm produce nothing?
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Qualcomm Wins Import Ban on iPhone 6s Through iPhone X in China, Apple Says All iPhone Models Remain Available
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You telling me Qualcomm produce nothing?
From my experience people there possess much weaker pride and feel much less need to buy things that are "Made in China", compared to people's feeling here for "Made in USA". They choose the affordable products.
Could also be adapted to a drinking game.
I asked about this in the political segment of the forum - what is the deal with the arrest warrant and the arrest?
Did the USA really ban any Huawei products that the consumer uses directly or just the infrastructure elements?
Are American (USA) companies banned from supplying Huawei parts like the ZTE deal?
Partly true. Pretty much everything is "Made in China" so many people (especially the mid-class) actually seek things that are not made in China.
However in recent years, just like in Europe and in the US, there is a surge of nationalism. State media outlets are using Huawei/ZTE as examples of high quality Chinese made tech which are feared and suppressed by "the west". Many people actually see them as superior products comparing to iPhones/Samsungs.
The ban is worthless if people read the detail!
The court ruled that Apple is violating software patents held by Qualcomm that are specifically related to resizing pictures and managing applications, meaning that Apple could easily update its software to circumvent the court order.
The ban doesn't apply to iPhones running iOS 12. That means, the phone can easily upgrade to iOS 12 and can remain selling in China!
The court ruled that Apple is violating software patents held by Qualcomm that are specifically related to resizing pictures and managing applications, meaning that Apple could easily update its software to circumvent the court order.
The ban doesn't apply to iPhones running iOS 12. That means, the phone can easily upgrade to iOS 12 and can remain selling in China!
Not 100% sure but AFAIK all new (Apple)devices are sold with the last supported OS except for those that already left the manufacturing plant before the new OS is available.
Apple makes half of all iPhones in China
https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-factory-foxconn-china-photos-tour-2018-5?r=UK&IR=T
Actually no, what happens with Apple is: Apple buys Qualcomm modems (or any other product), reverse engineers the product, decides that Qualcomm is too expensive or whatever and provides the reversed engineered info to Intel, and buys new modems.
So Qualcomm is only protecting its IP, I recall Apple doing the same thing to Samsung, and many other companies.
Ok ready?
1) The arrest and warrant are based on (what the fake news calls) Bank fraud saying one bank is owned by another, truth of the matter is the CFO (daughter of company founder) has been known to help violate sanctions that were placed on Iran. (the US government sees this as someone who has secrets about Iran) Also, this will help destroy any chances between USA and China trade agreements.
2) The USA didn't really "ban" any Huawei products, they placed an embargo on Huawei until the spy thing has been fixed, but with trust issues, they want to (or already did) remove Huawei Cell towers.
3) Yes, American companies don't supply parts for Huawei.
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Prove it? Why not just prove it yourself and google what Apple did to Xerox, or what apple does to every supplier they use, how many times has apple announced that they will stop using a product, release a statement, and when that company's stock drops apple buys them?
Remember, just because apple doesn't lose certain court cases doesn't mean they are right, it just means they have deeper pockets.
Yes, that is, when the installed OS was the current version when it left the factory, if there's no update it won't ask.
Yep - and they creates lots of jobs. (well, their working condition is another story)
I'm not saying the new mid-class & the rich only buy stuff that are not made in China. If there is a choice, products that are not made in china are usually favored more.
Go to a fashion outlet and watch the tourists - you will see many Chinese tourists often check if a piece of garment says "Made in China" - they are more likely to buy things that are not. Not necessarily for quality reasons - they are most likely just looking for something that can be considered "different".
This is off-topic I guess
However back to this topic - many Chinese nationalists believe the arrest of Huawei's CFO is an effort by the US government to undermine Chinese tech companies. Huawei makes tons of networking equipments, but to common people they think Huawei is a Chinese equivalent of Apple. That's why they believe this court decision is the Chinese government using another American company to punish Apple directly in response to the Huawei thing.
As I understand, the ban (at least implicit) is on all Huawei products. The consumer products technically can be sold (and are sold) but all wireless providers were told not to do it. Supplies to Huawei are not banned (yet). I believe that's $10B worth to US companies so they would not be happy about it.
The rules here on MR are that if you make a statement, the one about Apple stealing IP from Quallcomm and giving it to Intel, you as the OP have to prove it.
Edit: BTW, you've got that Xerox case wrong as well...
Here you go, find your own links, in Sept 2018 Apple vs. Qualcomm was in court, I will not provide you with all the small details, but as I finished saying, just because apple wins a case doesn't mean they were right, it means they have more money to pay judge Koh, who never sides against apple in her home state.
If I violate any rules protecting apple in the comments feel free to ban me.
You haven't proven anything, as in no links, won't reply until you do.
As for your pay judge Koh comment, once again, prove it.
So I have to provide to YOU links that shows apple has won its cases? ha no way buddy, its very public info what the verdicts have been. so suck it up and look for the verdicts yourself.
“Cheaper” manufacturing costs are a misconception. China is advantageous do to the access to parts and skilled labor.
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No, you have to provide links where you claims can be verified.
Your claims:
Apple steals IP from qualcomm and gives it to Intel.
You say Apple pays Judge Koh.
Until then (Again).....
I don't comprehend. Or you wanted to say "China has it's advantages due to access of parts and skilled labour"
Genuine question/remark(I am non native)
If it's cheaper to manufacture somewhere else they will move, it happened before with lots of other industries/products.
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Smart consumers win if all things lead to Apple paying their fair share like everyone else and switching back to Qualcomm radios with better reception and performance.
iPhones (and many electronics) are made in a factory that is situated within a special economic zone in China. This zone is kind of like the international terminal of an airport. You have left the country but not physically out.
The reason for this is there are certain taxes a domestic company will have to pay but when you’re in this special zone, you don’t have to. You can export items that haven’t been taxed. The kicker is when you’re selling these products back to China, you are essentially importing and therefore taxes and duties of China.
Hence this ban can exist.
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