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Questionable Rumor Says Apple May Introduce New iPhone SE at Event in Late August
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That's a Slight generalization. Furthermore, Then the same argument could be made the SE "People" don't seem to understand why others would choose the 4.7 iPhone. Because not every user will have the same size preference based on what's comfortable, regardless of what capabilities the iPhone boasts. It's simply down to form factor for most. The fact that Apple even offers a 4" iPhone is more than appreciated amongst its current line up, when most phone manufacturers have moved away from smaller phones with larger devices.
The SE's largest advantage is one handed use, aside from the battery life. Again, No one purchases the SE for the latest features, they purchase it for the size. Period.
Just as long as the headphone jack stays put.
Agreed. I'm on a two year upgrade cycle, and, after going from the 5 to 6, I went back to the SE form factor , rather than the 7, and don't want to go larger again. I hope the SE gets upgrades through the years.
I've already made that point several times and it wasn't just for India but many developing markets.
I've been trying to keep this light hearted with you, but you seem determined to nitpick on this thread when I attempt to be concise with points that stray from my original post - like this one.
Sorry but no. I understand why someone wants a 4.7" iPhone. For those people the iPhone 7 at 5" is closer than the SE's 4". The SE is the continuation of the 5, 5S form-factor. 4.7 would be a new one. If Apple could reduce the bezels on the 5" iPhone they could get real close to that 4.7 (with traditional-sized bezels).
As I mentioned in my post (but not in the single sentence you quoted), there are a variety of factors that make the SE appealing. Change the screen size of the SE to 4.7, there will be a defection of those who want the 4". How many of those who bought the 7 but thought 5" is too large but would buy a 4.7" SE because it is just right?
To those that own the current model SE, what would be the diagonal size of the screen if it kept the same body dimensions as now, but had an all round edge bezel of just a few millimetres please?
I'd like to see the current form factor kept. It works very well. And it has room for additions (such as stereoscopic cameras at the top, both outward and user facing). Making it Bezeless and boosting the screen size doesn't really have much benefit.
The current iPhone SE is 4.87 x 2.31 x .30 inches
So if you managed to use the whole front face as screen you'd get a diagonal of 5". So maybe call it a 4.7 inch screen with some bezel left over. And I don't see that is called for. The 4" screen is already pushing the size for those of us who want the smaller device.
Again I'd rather see the current from factor and 4" screen kept. If we are going to lose the Bezel (top and bottom), I'd rather see the actually phone size cut down. Cut it down to 4.5 or even 4.3 inches (provided that doesn't sacrifice internals), instead of 4.87.
If we could get back to the iPhone 4s (4.54 in, 2.31 inches) and keep the 4" screen, that would be a positive.
The current iPhone SE is 4.87 x 2.31 x .30 inches
So if you managed to use the whole front face as screen you'd get a diagonal of 5". So maybe call it a 4.7 inch screen with some bezel left over. And I don't see that is called for. The 4" screen is already pushing the size for those of us who want the smaller device.
Again I'd rather see the current from factor and 4" screen kept. If we are going to lose the Bezel (top and bottom), I'd rather see the actually phone size cut down. Cut it down to 4.5 or even 4.3 inches (provided that doesn't sacrifice internals), instead of 4.87.
If we could get back to the iPhone 4s (4.54 in, 2.31 inches) and keep the 4" screen, that would be a positive.
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Right. Hence my inclusion of the word "presumably"
. Nothing in my post was definitive so I'm unsure how you draw that conclusion I think anything I mentioned will happen because I "expect it."While this is a pretty ridiculous rumor, I hope Apple considers dropping the price by another $25-50 before Christmas. That would certainly spark iPhone sales in the US and emerging markets.
I really can't see the iPhone SE being updated until sometime next year around, or after April. Then again, I'm just guessing and could be totally off.
I really can't see the iPhone SE being updated until sometime next year around, or after April. Then again, I'm just guessing and could be totally off.
Thank you very much for checking this.
I must say, although I don't have an SE here at the moment, I'm surprised that form factor can comfortably house a 4.7" screen.
I seem to be going against the grain of several of the existing SE owners on this thread and do not mean any offence by that, but if it did have such a screen it could seriously tempt someone like me.
I do still maintain, however, that most people could operate that one handed. Perhaps not as elegantly as they can with the existing SE, but it could be done.
As much as I want the headphone jack, I can't see Apple putting it on a device similar to the 7.
If Apple does this, it will be iPhone SE with iPhone 7 tech specs but 16GB for $199.
People will love it until they take one Live Photo and use up all their memory.
People will love it until they take one Live Photo and use up all their memory.
It would have to be made wider if you wanted to keep what most people think of as 4.7" screen. Otherwise it would have a different aspect ratio.
Which is part of the problem. Most of us who are either on SE (or still back on 5, 5s, 5c, or even 4s) for the size issue find that the current 2.31 in. width is about as far as our little thumbs are willing to tolerate comfortably with a single hand. And the extra height can be a bit annoying.
For me personally, I can barely cradle the SE and access all App buttons in all rows. For me being right handed, getting at the top left and lower left most App positions requires me to extend my thumb rather uncomfortably. Which I hope you would imagine, makes it rather difficult to single thumb type. Or even to access many "back" and "menu" options App makers put in the top left.
I've partly gotten used to a modified grip where the iPhone rests on my pinky, along the lighting port. This moves my thumb from a stretching position, to one that can better reach everything in the bottom row comfortably. Leaving only the very top left requiring a bit of a stretch, and grip change to get at.
Adding any more Width, or any more height, to the SE form factor would mean I'd be unable to reliably operate it single-handedly. This is why many of us are expressing distaste at the idea of 4.7" SE. We have tiny baby hands, and 4" was the absolutely limit of what we can/will tolerate.
We (4" screen users) do understand how other people, with much longer fingers and bigger hands, felt cramped on the 4" screens. It's why a full range 4", 4.7", 5.5" of screen types is better.
Apple oversimplified their product line when they dropped the 5s form factor and went to only 4.7" and 5.5" sized screens. They needed the 4" screen, and the sales of the SE prove that.
So to me, filling up the current SE form with an edge-to-edge screen is madness. If Apple wants all their phones to have edge-to-edge screens, I would much rather see the top and bottom bezels reduced or removed, and keep a 4" screen... edge-to-edge.
I love my iPhone SE too. And I'd definitely be up for an upgraded version with more modern specs.
This would actually make sense if its a pure refresh. Just update the guts, no new features.
If they however add more of the "mainline" features that the iPhone 7 has then I would think they'd tack it onto another event.
And just a couple of days before the story that the new iPhone SE will be delayed?
If Apple is going with edge-to-edge screens on the iPhone 8 (and hopefully the SE) then I'm hoping they will use a software solution for accidental touches on the edge of the screen.
This could allow a thumb to stretch across to the the top of the screen and ignore the fleshy part of the thumb if it touches the edge.
This peed me off when using a samsung S7 edge; unless you're a bass player it's a terrible phone for one-handed use.
This could allow a thumb to stretch across to the the top of the screen and ignore the fleshy part of the thumb if it touches the edge.
This peed me off when using a samsung S7 edge; unless you're a bass player it's a terrible phone for one-handed use.
[doublepost=1500557774][/doublepost]I would call this a very plausible rumor. IMHO the 3 phones that Ming-Chi Kuo said would launch this year will not be a 7s, 7s+ and an iPhone 8 but an iPhone SE, and iPhones 8 and 8+. I think the 8 & 8+ will have similar internals (maybe more ram for the 8+) and similar designs but the 8 will get all the attention for the greatly reduced bezels. Think the iPad Pro 10.5" and the iPad Pro 12.9"
A questionable rumor has surfaced today suggesting Apple could unveil a new iPhone SE next month, but it might just be more noise in iPhone silly season.
The rumor comes from French-language blog iGeneration, which cited an unnamed source claiming Apple will hold a product event in late August to introduce an updated version of the 4-inch smartphone.
Mickaël Bazoge, the author of the article, told MacRumors that he received the info from a "new source" with an unproven track record. He expressed some skepticism, but added that the source "seems reliable."
The timeline is immediately questionable given Apple has never introduced any new iPhone model in August. Beyond the current iPhone SE and iPhone 4s in March 2016 and October 2011 respectively, Apple has officially debuted all other iPhone models at events in June or September each year.
Moreover, given the current iPhone SE essentially has iPhone 6s tech specs, the next model's tech specs would likely be closer to the iPhone 7. And if that happens in August, then the new iPhone SE would be nearly as powerful as the iPhone 7 with a much cheaper price tag, potentially cannibalizing Apple's sales.
There have also been few if any rumors about a new iPhone SE. Back in November 2016, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said it was unlikely that Apple would release a new iPhone SE in the first half of this year. That claim proved to be accurate, but Kuo hasn't outlined any new predictions since then.
When introducing the iPhone SE, Apple acknowledged that some people simply love smaller phones, and revealed that it sold 30 million 4-inch iPhones in 2015. The device looks like an iPhone 5s, but it has newer tech specs, including a twice-as-fast A9 chip and a 12-megapixel rear-facing camera.
iPhone SE remains Apple's cheapest smartphone, starting at $399 in the United States. Today's rumor claims the next-generation model could start at EUR399 in Europe, down from EUR489 currently. The rumor also says Apple will hold a second event in October to introduce the supposedly delayed "iPhone 8."
Apple doubled the current iPhone SE's storage capacities to 32GB and 128GB, up from 16GB and 64GB, in March.
Article Link: Questionable Rumor Says Apple May Introduce New iPhone SE at Event in Late August
I wasn't very clear in my post. I'm not in a traditional contract with Verizon, those don't exist anymore. I'm in a weird payment plan where I get a "free" iPhone which I make an installment payment each month and Verizon reimburses me the same amount each month. As long as I have Verizon as my carrier, I get the reimbursement. I can quit Verizon anytime I want, but then I would be on the hook for the remainder of the price of the phone. Sorry for the mansplaning, but not sure how many people know of this.
It's really a sneaky way of bringing back the 2 year contract.
If what you are saying is accurate, then we may not see the final release of iOS 11 until then, instead of October as usual...