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Core Trio said:
This really makes the mini seem a bit over priced.

at edu prices, the high end mini is $779, and for $899 you get the iMac with a monitor, iSight, keyboard and mouse. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture??
Apple does not care trust me. In the edu store, ibooks are still going for the 949 and 1199 .
 
Katharine said:
I have some question:
1.Does the free nano apply to these?
2. Can an Apple Remote work on these if you already have one or does it use bluetooth?
3. What difference does the 2 256 chips make vs. 1 512.

Thanks!

1. I'd assume so. Both deals show up on the edu store (Purdue, in my case).
2. Yes. Or you can add in another remote for $26.
3. It's harder to upgrade on your own (i.e., to get up to 1 GB you'll need to replace the 2 x 256 sticks with two 512 MB sticks instead of just adding another 512 MB stick).

Hmmm... An edu iMac + 160 GB HDD + 1 GB RAM + remote still costs $100 less than the standard iMac with 512 MB of RAM (even at EDU pricing); all you lose is DVD burning ($20 external burners are much better than Apple's anyhow) and Bluetooth. Sounds like a deal to me.
 
Core Trio said:
thats almost insulting to read haha.

thats not what I was trying to point out at all. Someone said the iBook was missing from the edu store, but its still there under PowerPC...

:D :D :D
Gotcha :eek:
 
So with the the introduction of hte new iMac, can this been seen as a way of trying to clear out stockpiles of excess chips and parts inpreperation for new products in the near future here?
 
eMagius said:
1. I'd assume so. Both deals show up on the edu store (Purdue, in my case).
2. Yes. Or you can add in another remote for $26.
3. It's harder to upgrade on your own (i.e., to get up to 1 GB you'll need to replace the 2 x 256 sticks with two 512 MB sticks instead of just adding another 512 MB stick).

Hmmm... An edu iMac + 160 GB HDD + 1 GB RAM + remote still costs $100 less than the standard iMac with 512 MB of RAM (even at EDU pricing); all you lose is DVD burning ($20 external burners are much better than Apple's anyhow) and Bluetooth. Sounds like a deal to me.

No no no - you lose a dedicated graphics card as well.

Oh, and I'd rather have a SuperDrive than a 20 dollar external burner...but that's just me :eek:
 
thejadedmonkey said:
I quite agree! the one thing that worries me is, does this mean the G5 iMac enclosure is going to stay the same for some time longer now? Or do you think Apple will roll out a new enclosure with the updated iMacs (when ever that happens)


I've been wondering this same thing! I kinda hope for new enclosures but my gut tells me they're sticking around.
 
hmm this is good news for schools and it certainly makes sense to have such a machine. But I still have to wonder about the durability of the current iMac design in a classroom. I mean the one big advantage of the emac is that it won't tip over easily.
 
markkk! said:
apple is the only computer company still using 256mb sticks.:rolleyes:

i was thinking that maybe using 256 MB sticks keeps the cost down as maybe they are left-overs from days gone... perhaps they are simpply clearly out their inventory, and then they will update the specs to 1 512 stick.
 
Another reason for no remote is that if you have a room with 50 iMacs in, 1 student with an Apple Remote can make Front Row appear on 50 screens at once, which i expect would not go down well with the other students, especially if they then press Play or somthing.
 
this is a awesome computer for high schools and for campus libraries where people write papers and surf the web. and at the same time, it saves space and allows for more computers or books to be placed on the desks.

they use eMacs at Simon Fraser University and they're so big and clucky and when you try to write a paper with like 10 books, you have no where to put them.

yay imac edu.
 
If I were Apple, I'd update the iMacs with the T2500 and T2600 and make this education model available to the general public and business community. Put in a box and sell it at best buy, Wal-Mart, and anywhere else they actually buy computers.
 
N10248 said:
Another reason for no remote is that if you have a room with 50 iMacs in, 1 student with an Apple Remote can make Front Row appear on 50 screens at once, which i expect would not go down well with the other students, especially if they then press Play or somthing.

Well you could always "pair" each remote with each computer, so that wouldn't happen...

...but still, you're right. Schools don't have any need for "Front Row," unless maybe a teacher wants to show dvds in her class often and can just hook up a projector to the iMac to watch them (in which case she could just buy a 30 dollar remote...)
 
sushi said:
Yeah, an external DVD burner kind of defeats the purpose of the iMac.

Depends what your purpose is. If you want a powerful, stylish, and easy to use consumer machine the notebook drive is adequate. If you use it as the closest thing Apple has to a prosumer model, it's better to have a full size drive. One isn't going to bit in that case.
 
N10248 said:
Another reason for no remote is that if you have a room with 50 iMacs in, 1 student with an Apple Remote can make Front Row appear on 50 screens at once, which i expect would not go down well with the other students, especially if they then press Play or somthing.
For the most part, remotes are a waste of money in the classroom and office environment.

BTW, I would hate to be the person responsible for accountability of all the remotes.
 
Zoboomafoo said:
eh?

I'm just talking about the physical apple store in the union. The only thing you can walk in and buy there is an ipod. Everything else you have to order.

I'm just making fun of the hole-in-the-wallness of the store.

(granted, it's quite possible that most colleges are like this. but i want my instant gratification.)

Ooooooooh. In the union you can buy stuff there! They have stuff under the displays. Right now they hvae like....10 macbook pros and 10 macbooks and a couple ibooks. my uncle bought his ibook there & i bought my macbook pro there.


but they have like 80 ipods :eek:
 
BenRoethig said:
Depends what your purpose is. If you want a powerful, stylish, and easy to use consumer machine the notebook drive is adequate. If you use it as the closest thing Apple has to a prosumer model, it's better to have a full size drive. One isn't going to bit in that case.
As you say, it depends on your needs.

Personally, I like the all-in-one concept for the classroom and office environment. No need to keep track of external parts/add ons.

And it tends to keep the idiots from trying to troubleshoot their computers by taking them apart! Arg!
 
Core Trio said:
This really makes the mini seem a bit over priced.

at edu prices, the high end mini is $779, and for $899 you get the iMac with a monitor, iSight, keyboard and mouse. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture??

if you already have a monitor you like and a keyboard and a mouse, saving $100 isn't a bad thing.
 
sushi said:
As you say, it depends on your needs.

Personally, I like the all-in-one concept for the classroom and office environment. No need to keep track of external parts/add ons.

And it tends to keep the idiots from trying to troubleshoot their computers by taking them apart! Arg!

I agree. For those environments, the all in one concept works perfectly. As does it for those who just want an easy to use computer. This fulfills those needs perfectly and is a lot easier to service than the Mini.

sushi said:
For the most part, remotes are a waste of money in the classroom and office environment.

BTW, I would hate to be the person responsible for accountability of all the remotes.

Plus, it's a $26 option if you still want it. It would be great when used with keynote as a presentation tool though.
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
...but still, you're right. Schools don't have any need for "Front Row," unless maybe a teacher wants to show dvds in her class often and can just hook up a projector to the iMac to watch them (in which case she could just buy a 30 dollar remote...)

That's me. My second graders love front row on the projector. If I don't use front row, they are very disappointed. Also, they consider VHS very uncool. If its not on the projector screen they really whine.:D

I use front row in the classroom for DVDs, imovies and photo slide shows. So cool:cool:

BTW - watching "Lost" downloaded from itunes is pretty good on the big screen (during my grading time, that is)

As for the new edu imac - about time. We were really getting worried about purchasing newer imacs at that price. The emac really is too bulky now a days.
 
I'm the computer techie at an elementary school and this is a good and bad thing. Good b/c you get this all for fairly cheap. Unfortunately, we still use quite a bit of classic software which won't run on it so not only would we have to buy the new computers, but new software as well. And being a public school, e don't have the $$. :(
 
Okay... Now we have a "basic iMac" with the GMA950... Where's the "high-end Mac mini" with the X1600/128MB? :D

Not that it matters to me anyway, I've cancelled my WoW account. :rolleyes:
 
dornoforpyros said:
hmm this is good news for schools and it certainly makes sense to have such a machine. But I still have to wonder about the durability of the current iMac design in a classroom. I mean the one big advantage of the emac is that it won't tip over easily.

Well in California (at least at my school), everything was bolted to the tables, walls, etc. For earthquakes/theft. They put a screw/latch on all the computers onto a base, and the base is drilled into the desk.

I think it's very nice for schools but I worry that kids will abuse/break them. It's such a nice design. Way better than those clunky Windows machines from the nineties that my school seemed to adore. And better than the old iMac G3/eMac (but that one seemed like it could take a lot of abuse).
 
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