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If people like you got your way, my iphone would include a floppy disk drive, a hard disk drive, a cd drive and a black berry type keyboard. xD

Move on with the times, sheesh.
I don't know about that. What we got in place of the jack (this year) is the added speaker. To each their own. I don't listen to anything over the speaker except the occasional ringtone (phone usually on silent) so this change didn't effect me positively.

With floppy we got something else that was an improvement. Considering the lightning in my previous device does what the lightning in this device does, I can't say that about it.

Anyway, it is what it is. We've had a few months to prepare ourselves. Nothing Apple announced today was news to anyone who frequents this website.
 
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I don't do that. I'll just not buy. My money (or lack of it) means more than an email. At the end of the day, if enough people feel this way, great. If not, I get to deal. I'm just trying to be a realist here.

You have to make your comment heard to help guide Apple to making proper, competent design decisions. This one is utterly silly and Tim Cook needs to know we're not 100% satisfied with them.
 
A dongle for a smartphone? Come on! This isn't a retina MacBook, it's a portable device that should have all required functionality built in. It's ridiculous to suggest that this removal is acceptable and disingenuous for anybody suggest the pro-headphone lobby should go elsewhere if it doesn't suit.


Could that dongle not simply stay connected to your earphone cord/cable? It would make just about zero difference then, surely?
 
I've just fired off an email to tcook@apple.com pointing out how courageous Apple has been and that they should be less courageous and return the jack to its rightful place for the post-phone 7 generation in 2017. Hopefully others will do the same.

Thats tragic and your living in a dream world, sure they will return it...and pigs will fly :D
 
How hard is it to see that analog needs to go! It is the last analog thing we're holding on to. It's time for digital to take over. Plus, digital audio is going to produce better quality sound than the headphone jack ever will.
 
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You have to make your comment heard to help guide Apple to making proper, competent design decisions. This one is utterly silly and Tim Cook needs to know we're not 100% satisfied with them.
After this keynote, if anyone thinks Apple doesn't pay attention to forum and media chatter, I don't know what to say. Their ten iPhone 7 bullet points were all basically damage control against everything being said about the iPhone 7 for months.

I respect your opinion but I think Apple already knows how I feel about this year's phone. They'll know even better when they see I've not upgraded. And they'll know I haven't because my Apple ID won't be associated with said products since I won't be using them.
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At first I thought :eek:o_O but they grew on me pretty fast. I still don't think they look good, but they don't look completely awful to me.
I'm going to cut off the wires on my EarPods today and walk around Boston. See if I get any looks. Lol

But seriously, I'd have picked them up if they did something to the design to make them stay in when sweating heavily in the gym. These will just fly out. 5 hour battery is respectable though.
 
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Could that dongle not simply stay connected to your earphone cord/cable? It would make just about zero difference then, surely?

You're trying to justify the dongle which is the wrong approach. Dongle will be dropped after a few months, per the usual Apple methodology. They will literally force through this change unless people stand up to be counted right now.
 
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I'm going to cut off the wires on my EarPods today and walk around Boston. See if I get any looks. Lol
That's a good idea. I'm gonna do that with my next pair that breaks. Haha

But seriously, I'd have picked them up if they did something to the design to make them stay in when sweating heavily in the gym. These will just fly out. 5 hour battery is respectable though.
I've never had that problem with the current EarPods so I don't think it would be much of an issue with AirPods. The only times my EarPods have popped out of my ears was when the cord got snagged on something, which isn't likely to happen with these for obvious reasons.
 
They look the same as the earbuds now without the wires and no one seems to think those are garish ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Well, I do, hence sharing my opinion about them :)

But really, if I'm getting rid of a wire entirely, I always imagine something that is a bud and no more. I didn't ever imagine them as a complete analogue to what an EarPods with a wire cut off would look like. Apple design team obviously feels differently. Or maybe next year's design is different.

Also, just a theory, but I suspect most use the pods packaged with their phone simply because they're packaged with their phone. Don't think looks go much into that decision. At $160, that's a different story. Or maybe not.
 
That's a good idea. I'm gonna do that with my next pair that breaks. Haha


I've never had that problem with the current EarPods so I don't think it would be much of an issue with AirPods. The only times my EarPods have popped out of my ears was when the cord got snagged on something, which isn't likely to happen with these for obvious reasons.
They roll right out for me unless I am stark upright. Ok for running and biking. Terrible fornweights or any other cardio (my experience of course).

I have a drawer full of these things at this point lol. There basically backups to backups.
 
Next you'll be telling me to destroy my vinyl record collections.

Okay, let me know when your iPhone can play vinyl records. Be realistic. Vinyl is probably still better quality than digital, however, the iPhone cannot play a vinyl record so why even bring that up?

"The main drawback of using an auxiliary input has to do with the difference between a car stereo and earbuds. Earbuds are small and unpowered, whereas even the simplest car stereo system has much larger speakers and an amplifier, whether it is stand alone or built into the head unit.

The issue is that when you use an auxiliary cable, your iPhone does all the heavy lifting. The iPhone processes the digital music files that you have stored on it, and it transmits the resulting audio signal via the headphone jack to the aux input in the head unit. Since iPhones are designed with earbuds and headphones in mind, and they don’t include line level outputs, additional noise may be introduced to the audio signal when it passes through the amplifier in your car stereo. Of course, noise can also be introduced via the cable and jacks."

"The main benefit of a USB input vs an auxiliary input is sound quality, but these connections often come with other benefits. For instance, some head units can take direct control of an iPhone via a USB connection. This is sometimes referred to as direct iPod control, and it’s a lot safer and more convenient than fiddling with your phone whenever you want to change songs or adjust the volume. Of course, the level of integration varies from one head unit to another. Some head units, like Pioneer’s AppRadio, include iOS-like touchscreen controls, and others are a little more cryptic."
 
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My issue is that the same headphones that I use on an iPhone I use on my Mac, my Windows PC at work, the TV at the gym, the TV's on airplanes etc. Unlike some other devices that Apple got rid of people still need and use headphones. Now you will have to carry two types.
I also, when work at home, need to use my phone for calls some times 6 or 7 hours a day so I need to charge phone and use headset at some time. I'm sure there will be some accessory that will allow this but ... All more cost for - so Apple can be brave? Not as if everyone will be able to use Apple stuff on other type devices.

Not a show stopper but will cost money and less convenience.

Yes been covered 10000 times already and probably don't need another thread
 
They roll right out for me unless I am stark upright. Ok for running and biking. Terrible fornweights or any other cardio (my experience of course).

I have a drawer full of these things at this point lol. There basically backups to backups.
I have several pair myself. Every time my family got new iPhones, they gave me their EarPods. I love them because I think they sound great, they fit my ears fine, don't hurt, and I never have to buy headphones.
 
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