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I did the Radeon Pro 460 as well. For the minimum relative increase, it's worth it for me. Even if it just slightly improves performance in WoW or any other task.
I got the 460 to play WoW, Diablo 3, and Gears of War 4 via bootcamp. What are your thoughts on frame rate and video settings with this config?
 
That was a major uneducated concern of mine, so I went with the 2.7/455 combo. Only time will tell. I'll be very upset if the 460 doesn't run much hotter because it would have been only $100 more and Lightroom might need 4gb VRAM in 2-5 years.

I'm getting that one too, because if I ordered BTO it would be much more expensive (it's hard to explain, but my country only has official resellers and prices go way up if you go for customization). So, I'll be getting the 455 and I'm certain it will work just fine. I seriously doubt LR might need more anytime soon.
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I got the 460 to play WoW, Diablo 3, and Gears of War 4 via bootcamp. What are your thoughts on frame rate and video settings with this config?

WoW and Diablo 3 work on my current GeForce 750, they are going to fly with 460 (and with any other GPU choice, honestly). As for Gears of War 4 - no idea there. It's a very demanding, modern game - I expect it to work, but at low settings.
 
If you're doing anything graphics the extra 2GB GPU RAM should age better. This of course depends on how long you're planning to keep the notebook
 
I got the 460 to play WoW, Diablo 3, and Gears of War 4 via bootcamp. What are your thoughts on frame rate and video settings with this config?

I'd hate to give you any input because my machine has not made its way to me yet, so I really can't make any comments. I'm assuming on the internal display, it should be quite good, and should be even more impressive on external display. I play with a 650M GT right now, and it performs very well with everything but shadows almost maxed, and with the 460 having a better shader model, I'm expecting it to do very well.
 
I understand that the 460 has about the same tflops as a PS4. Can someone explain why it doesn't make sense to compare the 2 systems. I heard the PS4 is much more optimized for gaming, which is obvious. Just trying to learn more.
 
I understand that the 460 has about the same tflops as a PS4. Can someone explain why it doesn't make sense to compare the 2 systems. I heard the PS4 is much more optimized for gaming, which is obvious. Just trying to learn more.
You can't really compare a gaming console to a computer. So much optimization is done on consoles. Developers do not really care regarding computers. Sure there are games like GTA5 that are VERY optimized, but it is common that games are not optimized well for PC.
 
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You need to loose those 3 points. Here is why:

Here is the comparison of integrated GPU performance of 2016 and 2015 models:

New 2016 MBP 15" model uses Intel HD 530 which has performance of 441.6 GFLOPS
2015 MBP 15" model uses Iris Pro Graphics 5200 which has performance of 832 GFLOPS.

Here is the comparison of dedicated GPU performance of 2016 and 2015 models:

Radeon M370X inside 2015 Macbook Pro 15" : 1024 GFLOPS
Radeon Pro 450 inside 2016 Macbook Pro 15" base : 992 GFLOPS
Radeon Pro 455 inside 2016 Macbook Pro 15" : 1305 GFLOPS
Radeon Pro 460 inside 2016 Macbook Pro 15" : 1800 GFLOPS


In other words if you are picking a 2016 model with Radeon 450, then you will be getting much worse GPU performance all around (both integrated and dedicated) than 2015 model.

This is the first time ever, when Apple actually downgraded integrated GPU by such a drastic number.
Integrated GPU performance is probably much more important since you will be using integrated GPU like 99% of the time. And all those 99% of the time the 2016 GPU will be twice as slow as 2015 model even if you pick the most expensive 2016 model. .
 
The 460 consumes 40% more power (75W vs 45W). This may reduce battery its battery life and run hot.

I can't decided between the two either (450 vs 460). Is the additional power consumption and heat worth the 15% clock boost and double memory? I rarely play games and when I do it's League of Legends.
 
The 460 consumes 40% more power (75W vs 45W). This may reduce battery its battery life and run hot.

I can't decided between the two either (450 vs 460). Is the additional power consumption and heat worth the 15% clock boost and double memory? I rarely play games and when I do it's League of Legends.
Source on 460 running at 75W?
 
The 460 consumes 40% more power (75W vs 45W). This may reduce battery its battery life and run hot.

I can't decided between the two either (450 vs 460). Is the additional power consumption and heat worth the 15% clock boost and double memory? I rarely play games and when I do it's League of Legends.

Source on 460 running at 75W?

The 460 has a 35w power consumption.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-Pro-460.181783.0.html
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I got the 460 to play WoW, Diablo 3, and Gears of War 4 via bootcamp. What are your thoughts on frame rate and video settings with this config?

The 460 Pro should be somewhere in between a 960m and a 965m. For the 960m....

"Many games of 2014/2015 can be played fluently in FullHD resolution and high detail settings. However, very demanding games such as Assassin's Creed Unity will require lower resolutions and/or details."

So games like WoW you can probably turn the settings up, but GoW4 most likely not.

notebookcheck.net
 
The 460 has a 35w power consumption.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-Pro-460.181783.0.html
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The 460 Pro should be somewhere in between a 960m and a 965m. For the 960m....

"Many games of 2014/2015 can be played fluently in FullHD resolution and high detail settings. However, very demanding games such as Assassin's Creed Unity will require lower resolutions and/or details."

So games like WoW you can probably turn the settings up, but GoW4 most likely not.

notebookcheck.net

On that site it says the 450 consumes 75W. How can a more powerful GPU consume less? Lots of this data is unreliable.
 
You can't really compare a gaming console to a computer. So much optimization is done on consoles. Developers do not really care regarding computers. Sure there are games like GTA5 that are VERY optimized, but it is common that games are not optimized well for PC.
Just out of curiosity, in your opinion how would GTA5 run on the 460 considering it has been optimized for computer?
 
It doesn't state power consumption anywhere there.

It says this:

"But it’s not enough to have whisper quiet and astonishingly cool operation. It’s not enough for AMD to deliver up to 80% more performance over the prior generation of our graphics processors. It’s not enough to simply launch a professional mobile graphics processor that sips energy by running inside a 35W power envelope."
 
I understand that the 460 has about the same tflops as a PS4. Can someone explain why it doesn't make sense to compare the 2 systems. I heard the PS4 is much more optimized for gaming, which is obvious. Just trying to learn more.

As others mentioned, it's optimization and coding for a specific hardware. For example, I have a M290X on my iMac 5K which is very similar to the GPU in PS4 (same generation, lot of spec similarities, same speed, etc.) and there are some multiplatform games that run poorly (in bootcamp) but work flawlessly on the PS4. Of course, PS4 games often have certain graphical elements downgraded, but in reality - they work and look great, while the same games stutter on similarly specced PCs.
 
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Not really. The 4xx series is a much newer architecture than the old M370x. You can't just directly compare it using GFLOPs like that.

I mean seriously, read what that person wrote: "much worse" performance on the 2016 compared to 2015 when their own (flawed) GFLOP comparison only shows a measly 32 GFLOP (3%!) difference between the 450 and 370X. They have an agenda, it's obvious from other posts on this forum.

How about we just wait until the reviews are out. It should be any day now.
 
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This is the first time ever, when Apple actually downgraded integrated GPU by such a drastic number.
Integrated GPU performance is probably much more important since you will be using integrated GPU like 99% of the time. And all those 99% of the time the 2016 GPU will be twice as slow as 2015 model even if you pick the most expensive 2016 model.

where are you getting your 99% figure? Might it be shear speculation?
 
where are you getting your 99% figure? Might it be shear speculation?

It's wrong. I use gfxCardStatus to see which GPU is used on my 2013 MBP and the dGPU is used almost constantly for anything buy browsing, mail or Apple Music.

I seriously don't think this will be an issue at all.
 
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