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References to Next-Generation MacBook Pro Models Discovered in macOS 10.12.4 Beta
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Guess not, if you don't mind being plugged into AC power ALL the time...
So what's the hurry?
Skylake with Iris Graphics was available since early 2016.
Apple could have upgraded the MacBook Pro in early 2016 and again in early 2017.
Are you really that confused between Apple the company leaving me and registering on MacRumors? Since you clearly seem to be here's a small list of some of the Apple products I've owned over the years:
2007 - MBP
2011 - iMac
2013 - MBA
iPods & iPhones
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I've been an Apple customer for decades and Apple's recent actions (and in the case of new Macs, inactions) have left people like me on the sidelines. As I said, I haven't left Apple. Apple has left me.
Well, it's MacRumors. Of course folks will complain! However this is no different to period where Intel was coming out with new Pentiums what seemed like every three months and folks were chasing their tails. There's just not that much appreciable differences in these chips.
I am very happy with my base 13" MBP I purchased in December. Absolutely the best computer I've owned.
The only reason I would upgrade is if I were to end up giving my current MBP to my daughter.
Get rid of the gimmick Touch Bar and put in a bigger battery.
Memory is hardly a major factor in power consumption anyway.
Also, LPDDR3 operates at 1.2V, but so does DDR4.
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Actually when Tim Cook said "If there’s any doubt about that with our teams, let me be very clear: we have great desktops in our roadmap", what he meant was MBP with Dell 5K screen connected.
So which awesome Windows based products are you buying (or have already purchased) to replace your Apple devices? It's always good when you can find something that serves your needs better.
For me that's the new MBP. I had planned to wait for a refreshed iMac but my MBA finally had grown too long in the tooth so I got the MBP as a replacement. Now I don't feel the need for the new iMac.
Your Quote that I replied to:
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They ARE updating the rest of the line, now that Intel has released the CPUs that make sense to do that.
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They already make a good computer. You just don't want to see it."
Whether Apple makes a good computer, all depends on your needs
Apparently he was prone to be wowed by shiny, blinking lights since almost all of the professional reviews have called the touch bar a gimmick.
There are, but won't be anymore with Kaby Lake and going forward. Which Apple was aware of when engineering the new MBPs, a design presumably supposed to last for another 4 years or so. By going all-in on dGPU already with Skylake models, they avoid having to change too much for Kaby Lake and further generations.
Is there anything in here that confirms a 32gb option will be for this refresh or do you think that's in the pipeline for the refresh after this one?
I just bought a fully maxed 15" and will return it if this is going to be the one with 32gb. I use davinci resolve with an eGPU and I actually do seem to hit the ram limit when I'm working with unrendered clips.
I just bought a fully maxed 15" and will return it if this is going to be the one with 32gb. I use davinci resolve with an eGPU and I actually do seem to hit the ram limit when I'm working with unrendered clips.
Yes, but it's the 15W Kaby Lake processor that ships in large volumes. Apple uses the 28W version in the MacBook Pros. They and Intel itself (in their NUC products) are about the only ones in the industry who use that version, which has better graphics performance. In theory Apple could have shipped the nTB MacBook Pro with the Kaby Lake, but I'm guessing that they wanted it on the same generation as the TB models.
But i just spent 4 grand on the new speced out 2016 model
Relax my friend, a new version comes out every year. The 2017 MBP isn't even in production yet. If you held out forever waiting for the new model, you'd never buy a computer at all. Just enjoy the one you have!
No, they didn't:
- MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid/Late 2007)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2008)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011) ***
- MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2012)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) ***
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) ***
- MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
- The Mid 2014 speed bump was based on Intel's Haswell Refresh, when Intel didn't release a new processor generation but just released slightly faster clocked Haswell CPUs, 0.2 GHz, it also got a $100 price decrease which for the entry-level model was compensated for by a RAM doubling.
- The Early 2013 speed bump was a 0.1 GHz increase plus a storage size increase on the 13" model which was equivalent to a price reduction for the same storage after the higher price point retina introduction the previous year.
- The Late 2011 speed bump was literally just that a 0.2 GHz speed increase with no other changes whatsoever.
BTW, we got case redesigns in 2008, 2012, and 2016, a pretty consistent schedule.
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Just commenting how the article only mentions MBPs, not the whole Mac line.
Nothing is a major factor in power consumption except the main display. But it all contributes.
Constraints with the new design? I am not an Apple engineer, but it seems that they did not want to release Skylake in the old design, probably because Kaby Lake is such a marginal upgrade over Skylake in terms of performance and efficiency, that would make the redesign trade-offs even more noticeable.