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Removal of iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Was Essential for Water Resistance, New Camera System
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"The audio connector is more than 100 years old" ... I hate that argument, it really has no point at all other than saying old means obsolete. But so is the wheel. If you think about it, being an industry standard for such a long time proves that there's something working very well, but hey, it's easier to say that the hj is old and outdated than admitting they just couldn't find a way around their interference problem.
Proprietary means they made the chip, not that nobody else can talk to the iPhone. The W1 looks like it's just a Bluetooth chip that Apple fancied up probably by reducing the power draw as a result of their acquisition of Passif. I didn't see anything that says they're ripping Bluetooth out of the iPhone.
Brave move by apple (I understand they weren't the first but the other two companys didn't sell zillions a year!) but three things
• in a few years we will laugh at the thought of a wired headphone. Wireless everything is 100% the future.
• wireless earbuds will have quick charge 15 mins and 48 hours use within two years
• companies that make custom made earbuds that dont fall out of your ear (surely its not just me) will do really well when they move over to wireless https://www.etymotic.com I see an opportunity hear (sorry).
• in a few years we will laugh at the thought of a wired headphone. Wireless everything is 100% the future.
• wireless earbuds will have quick charge 15 mins and 48 hours use within two years
• companies that make custom made earbuds that dont fall out of your ear (surely its not just me) will do really well when they move over to wireless https://www.etymotic.com I see an opportunity hear (sorry).
And here comes the "iWheel", it's elliptical, and it doesn't roll very well, but it's new and shiny.
Don't look back, history may catch up and run you over.
Haven't got a problem with the whole wireless things but come on,these look ridiculous sticking out your ears
Like you left 2 cotton buds in or something
Like you left 2 cotton buds in or something
at this point, this just sounds just crazy to me. First of all in audio, nothing compares with the quality of wired connections. And second, to my knowledge the connector is apple proprietary so i imagine we will be limited on some super specific headphones brands (general crappy ones). Or we have to use the apple adapter which does not appeal at all to me (just atoner thing i have to carry around with me because apple made poor engineering decisions). Sadly, I guess i will be moving out of their ecosystem. First Spottify, then the Fitbit and when my iphone 6 will die, I guess will be time to find a good iphone replacement.
Airplanes aren't wired to their control towers... That's what make 'em useful.
I require lightning and 3.5mm every day in my car and often at home - iPhone 6.
A lot of folks also use the iPhone for sat nav and connect to their stereo - as we all know sat nav on iPhone drains battery from 100% to zero in under 3 hours.
I'm sure I'm not alone here that a "Y" adapter is needed and needed fast - short term.
Wireless is the future no doubt about that.
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How are you going to use Spotify without a wireless connection? I think that might be the weak link in your audio quality...
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sorry not including commercial use -
that will be interesting to see if a A 380 pilot prefers wireless to wired and if the reliablity is good enough for nearly 500 passengers safety.
Apple forgot to tell them it was impossible, so they just did it.
Care to elaborate on why removing something wouldn't mean there's more space to put something else where the first something used to be?
As an owner of 3 mid-range headphones (Denon AHD-2000, Denon AH-MM400 and Sennheiser HD-25-II) I'm kinda miffed, sure there's an adapter, sure the jack is obsolete (debatable), sure wireless is the way to go (but 4 hours autonomy is no improvement over anything), but I feel this "push forward" is unwarranted:
1. Lightning headphones require an external dac (in the cable/plug) if I'm correct?
2. Wireless headphones need charging, this is a con in my book, regardless of future iterations that will improve on this issue by lasting longer.
3. Bluetooth headphones and speakers have teething problems that are not yet fully solved and while I admire the engineering and craftsmanship that went into the AirPods, the drawbacks are still quite there (4 hours autonomy, still relying on Bluetooth 4.2, no AptX support).
I may be an old geezer but this transition is going to be felt deeply, will the audio industry align to Apple's decision? Bluetooth is not superior in terms of quality as it is now (Apple's "secret sauce" notwithstanding) and Lightning is not an industry standard in terms of audio (yet), maybe USB-C will.
1. Lightning headphones require an external dac (in the cable/plug) if I'm correct?
2. Wireless headphones need charging, this is a con in my book, regardless of future iterations that will improve on this issue by lasting longer.
3. Bluetooth headphones and speakers have teething problems that are not yet fully solved and while I admire the engineering and craftsmanship that went into the AirPods, the drawbacks are still quite there (4 hours autonomy, still relying on Bluetooth 4.2, no AptX support).
I may be an old geezer but this transition is going to be felt deeply, will the audio industry align to Apple's decision? Bluetooth is not superior in terms of quality as it is now (Apple's "secret sauce" notwithstanding) and Lightning is not an industry standard in terms of audio (yet), maybe USB-C will.
Changes happen its not a big deal we have the FREE adapter and a future "Y" adapter hopefully say 9.99 to charge and listen.
Why are you so angry how will it effect you so much?
cheers
With the direction they are going to (all in accessories), it will not surprise me if they decide to remove the whole battery out of the phone at one point and offer the batteries with cases as accessories in different shapes and in all colours of the rainbow. What an "true" work of engineering and what an "innovation" that would be ....?
OK. Let's just put the word aside. But the fact which Samsung released phone with water resistant as well as headphone jack is also self evident. Why Apple need to sacrifice headphone jack to reach water resistant? Yet the level is not as high as Samsung device? This is enough to say a lot.