The worst part is that Apple itself makes a thinner device than the iPhone, which does include the headphone jack. The iPod Touch.
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Removal of iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Was Essential for Water Resistance, New Camera System
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Bluetooth has crappy quality and an adaptor doesn't make this phone smaller but bulky in the pocket. Some opinions are misinformed.
Poor Phil. The last guy who was known for saying "Courage" didn't have a career that ended so well.
I'm in favor of dumping the headphone jack that lasted an astonishing 100 years. However the Lightning connector they replaced it with won't even last a tenth of that time. Darn shame about not going with usb-c.
Apple needed to remove the headphone jack to get IP67 rated resistance.
Samsung gets IP68 with a jack.
Really, Apple, either you're lying or you just admitted that Samsung has better engineers.
Samsung gets IP68 with a jack.
Really, Apple, either you're lying or you just admitted that Samsung has better engineers.
That's the new uniform for Ford Motor Company car salesmen.
Ssshhh don't question them.
Human eyes haven't evolved much in millions of years...
But that doesn't mean I'm going to gouge mine out, just because nature hasn't innovated in a while!
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You think??? I'm practically certain. There's at least a handful of guys who argue with Apple in every detail. Whatever your issue with anything Apple is doing, it's always YOUR fault or YOU need to change to comply. It's the opposite of "think different" unless "different" means "with whatever Apple is selling or wants to sell soon."
I'm certain that the next iPhone could be made out of razor blades and these guys would argue the merits of regularly turning over our blood supplies. Otherwise, I just can't grasp this level of blind brand loyalty... even within the concept of RDF, Kool-aid, etc.
I doubt it, as most folks use the bundled earbuds anyway. Those who do purchase after market headphones are increasingly going wireless, and with Apple making its own push in to that space, I think people will forget about the headphone jack quicker than you'd think.
Honestly, I felt the same way when the iMac ditched the optical drive "They removed a utility just to make it thinner!" I rushed out and bought a 2011 w a cd drive before they were phased out entirely. And in the 5 years I used that iMac, I can probably count on one hand how many times I used the optical drive. No use hanging on to outdated technologies just because they still work, if there are better/more convenient options on offer.
which isn't crammed to the gills with tech the same way the current iPhone is.
I'd agree with the reasoning... if there wasn't also a wired alternative. (And an adapter for crying out loud.) A more reasonable analogy would be that they ditched Token Ring in favor of ethernet AND WiFi.
There are plenty of times that you CAN do something and as an engineer you just go, "You know, removing this ancient connector solves a variety of problems."
It takes up a lot of space. I would have traded that space for something as dull as more battery in my 5s.
I don't know if I'd use the word "courage", but I appreciate the sharing of their vision.
I'm glad they got rid of the jack as this will push progress in this area and frankly I've been cheerleading this for a while.
Here's my gripe, the whole 'courage' I don't know anybody who bought that plus Motorolla already dropped the jack so it was not a new thing.
That aside I personally (i know many disagree) feel that there are good reasons to ditch the jack, well done Apple.
Here's my gripe, the whole 'courage' I don't know anybody who bought that plus Motorolla already dropped the jack so it was not a new thing.
That aside I personally (i know many disagree) feel that there are good reasons to ditch the jack, well done Apple.
iPhones have been using the same trick for years. Just FYI: Google search returns this number of hits for the following two searches:
iPhone exploded - 814,000 results
Samsung Galaxy exploded - 540,000 results
So, don't be too smug about it.
Sarcasm apart, I don't own a Mac, and while I agree that switching to USB C on the iPhone to prevent things like that from happening would have been more logical as well, the removal of the jack is still an important step towards what I consider to be the right direction. And to be honest the lightning port hole is way thinner than the jack so it looks smaller to me.
There are also folks here who are the exact opposite -- they will chime in to stick up for Apple against every and any slight (no matter how minor). Do you think those guys are Apple "plants"?
honestly though why are people even mad?
They included an adapter for old school headphones
They included an adapter for old school headphones
With a majority of people streaming music, quality isn't their first priority.
Removed 100 year old audio jack but still using 100 year old wired charging instead of wireless charging?
The fact that a connector has been around for 50+ years is a GOOD THING, not a bad one. It means it is universal and ubiquitous, that lots of devices have been designed for it, and that it doesn't suffer from compatibility problems. All the rationalizing from Apple is just BS -- water resistance is achieved by Samsung and Kyocera using rubber seals, but I guess the vaunted Apple engineers decided to "innovate" around the problem by simply not solving it.
So are those speaker holes in place of the headphone jack really just empty space?