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I dont really understand why tech enthusiasts nowadays can’t put up with things that aren’t perfectly mobile etc

I find it odd that we’ve come from mainframes and ultra heavy laptops that lasted about 10 minutes but cost 10,000 dollars yet we moan about the AVP.

I’m baffled by the indifference tbh.

Tech never used to be like this. People were wowed by stuff and bought it if they could afford it. Whether that’s OLED tv’s, or whatever. But tech enthusiast never attacked the products like they do now.

It’s just so weird. People nowadays would rather things not exist than to see any progress. I welcome all progress. To me that’s what tech is. The constant progression of humanity.
I never said that I think the AVP shouldn't exist, I said I would not be a buyer until it is in a similar form factor to Google Glass. There is a reason we aren't using mainframes and heavy laptops anymore. No one wants either. People used them because that was the form factor that was available at the time.
 
The prices of the original iPhone were dropped 33% to 40% less than three months after launch. Apple could lower the VP price but would need to be prepared for the backlash from early adopters similar to what happened with the iPhone.
Besides the original iPhone when has Apple 2.0 or 3.0 done this? Did they ever drop the price of the trashcan Mac Pro or the original Home Pod?
 
I certainly wouldn't be surprised if there is.
A version 2 of this product? Or are we talking HomePod mini equivalent? Would a cheaper version of this product still be considered a Pro product? Or does the name Vision Pro not really mean anything?
 
Four million for the new low-cost model is half of what Apple wanted from the Vision Pro, so 8 million? How many of those 8 million were actually produced if this company at its peak only assembled 2000 per day?
 
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I don't know why this should come to a surprise to anyone. VR doesn't have a place in daily life for the masses. I fell into that trap with PSVR when it first came out. It's mind blowing for a day, fun for a week, and then you never touch it again. It has too many inconveniences to be useful.
I got psvr2 just so I can play GT7. It’s absolutely amazing. I now have 200hrs logged in using it 🤪
 
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I will never understand people's affinity to hate on things they haven't even tried. Just baffles logic.

Once you try it once, it's perfectly fair to hate on it.
It's pretty easy when you're very in tune with your values and have an affinity for thinking critically about the state of technology, the world, and how you want to interact with that world. It isn't about whether I could have fun with the thing, perhaps I could (for a limited about of time). Technology, especially the new wave we are heading into, isn't innocent or harmless and my desires are heading in the opposite direction of screens as I age and against that is what I measure whether or not such things are worthwhile.
 
I never said that I think the AVP shouldn't exist, I said I would not be a buyer until it is in a similar form factor to Google Glass. There is a reason we aren't using mainframes and heavy laptops anymore. No one wants either. People used them because that was the form factor that was available at the time.
Yes I’m not attacking your comment, that’s completely valid. More of a commentary on the general feeling on the AVP.

Your comment on what form factor was available is also interesting because there is no other competing product to the AVP. In terms of what it does at a very high level.
Yet still there is indifference.

It’s a bit like saying I’m not going to use a mobile phone in the 80s because they don’t fit in my pocket. That’s fine, but people didn’t attack the 80s mobile phone saying it shouldn’t exist!

Just baffling to me right now.
 
A version 2 of this product? Or are we talking HomePod mini equivalent? Would a cheaper version of this product still be considered a Pro product? Or does the name Vision Pro not really mean anything?

"Pro" is just a marketing moniker Apple uses. It doesn't mean Apple devices with "Pro" in the name are targeted only to professionals.

I'm guessing a Version 2 will have interesting/significant upgrades.
 
It’s just so weird. People nowadays would rather things not exist than to see any progress. I welcome all progress. To me that’s what tech is. The constant progression of humanity.
That is an assumption you choose to make.
Calling a “turd” a “turd” does not mean I don”t support the process that created it.
 
Apple trying to get us to spend €4K on a clunky demo device backfired spectacularly. 🤡
Yeah, Apple. Toss all the current blueprints for this product. Go back to the drawing board. Redesign the product from the ground up. Make it more affordable. Make the battery last longer. Make it less clunky. Get it right. You have the resources to make it happen, thanks to loyal customers like me and a bunch of others here on Macrumors.
 
This is how 9to5Mac is framing it. That’s some spin. It seems pretty clear we’re not getting another product like this one. The question is how Apple pivots and how they spin that pivot in public.

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The device is basically a Mac/iPhone on your face. While I'm sure the experience is cool, it's just not $3500 +tax cool. Perhaps if it did more...less gimmicky and more practical. Apple has a habit of pushing new features on devices that you can only use with the latest hardware, and it's not uncommon to provide hardware upgrades annually. It makes the Vision a bad investment.
 
I dont really understand why tech enthusiasts nowadays can’t put up with things that aren’t perfectly mobile etc

I find it odd that we’ve come from mainframes and ultra heavy laptops that lasted about 10 minutes but cost 10,000 dollars yet we moan about the AVP.

I’m baffled by the indifference tbh.

Tech never used to be like this. People were wowed by stuff and bought it if they could afford it. Whether that’s OLED tv’s, or whatever. But tech enthusiast never attacked the products like they do now.

It’s just so weird. People nowadays would rather things not exist than to see any progress. I welcome all progress. To me that’s what tech is. The constant progression of humanity.

Spot-on assessment. It's the way the internet is. Some people live to complain.
 
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"Pro" is just a marketing moniker Apple uses. It doesn't mean Apple devices with "Pro" in the name are targeted only to professionals.

I'm guessing a Version 2 will have interesting/significant upgrades.
I don’t see that coming next year (assuming it comes at all). If anything they’ll pivot to something cheaper but then the question is do they still call it Vision Pro? When they pivoted to a smaller, cheaper HomePod they gave it it’s own name.
 
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