Report Claims iPhone X Sales Not as Strong as Expected in the U.S.

[Geert76]

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Touch ID worked zero percent of the time with gloves on. Face ID works 100% of the time. For that reason alone I prefer Face ID.
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It’s DigiTimes. No one takes them seriously.

FaceID works for about 1% when my iPhone X is on the table.
TouchID on my iPhone 7 works for about 100% when the phone is on the table

With my iPhone X there are multiple situations where I as a user need to adjust to the phone instead of vice versa.
With my iPhone 7, the phone is working for me, with my iPhone X its the other way around.

 

[itsmilo]

iOS offers nothing new ... why should I pay 1.149€ for an iPhone only to go back to using the exact same apps as i always have. Only real reason for me would be a slow iPhone or if i wanted a bigger screen which i dont since i got a Plus

You do realize that people have been paying that for years right? AppleCare, insurance, your rate plan etc all add up to more than $1000.

I sold my 7 Plus for $600 and put that towards a 64GB iPhone X and I’m doing Apple’s iPhone Upgrade Program.

Idk what’s the deal with some people’s mentalities. Especially when a 256GB 7 Plus was $969 at launch!

Not really though. I remember back in the day i could get the latest iPhone either for 649 Euro or for 1 Euro on a 39€ plan. Then it became 749€ or so on the 6S and ever worse since. Now it starts at 399€ on a 59€ plan! Its quite a price hike

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

We will cross that bridge when we get there. Especially now that we know the battery can be replaced to circumvent the throttling issue.

But Apple are refusing to replace batteries at user cost. This is reported by many on this forum.
And who is going to buy second hand Apple devices knowing that Apple are going to slow the phone down?

 

[alphaswift]

Apple shot themselves in the foot with FAIL ID.

Face ID has been flawless for me. Even last night while I was paying for gas while wearing a toque and heavy winter coat with a hood. Face ID is the best tech Apple has developed in a long time.

 

[Abazigal]

But Apple are refusing to replace batteries at user cost. This is reported by many on this forum.
And who is going to buy second hand Apple devices knowing that Apple are going to slow the phone down?

A lot can change in one year. Let’s see how Apple responds to the current allegations first and if this results in any change in their current policy.

 

[riverfreak]

Fake news.

Labeling something as fake news must mean that it is 100% fact.

 

[EdT]

My wife had an iPhone 5, which was really slow, didn’t have much memory, and being 32 bit you couldn’t download new apps. so I told her last spring that she can get the new phone this year, since I had gotten the last one several years ago(I have a 6+).

I was hoping she would pick either the 8 or 8+ but she wanted the X. She went to the closest Apple Store November 3rd and stood in line and got one.

So far she has been very happy with the phone, as far as features and performance goes. Never having a Touch ID phone meant she wasn’t attached to that technology, so for her FaceID was not a problem. It works pretty seamlessly for her, including for Apple Pay.

Personally I have a problem with spending $1150 for a phone especially if you buy the warranty and any accessories so I’m not looking at buying one but I can’t find any performance flaws with the phone itself.

 

[Breaking Good]

Please define a good product.

There is a good product and then a good product for you.

A good product is one that works as it was designed to work. A good product for you is one that meets your needs and desires.

If you need or just desire touch ID and the iPhone X doesn't have it, then the iPhone X isn't a good product for you. However, that doesn't mean it is a bad product.

 

[Juicy Box]

it's hardly a miserable fail when they never intended to do so in the first place.

There were a lot of rumors saying the opposite.

I personally would have liked both, but I am not prepared to spend 1000+ on a new iPhone. I am happy with my SE for now.

 

[boswald]

The ridiculous “notch” and FaceID made me pass on the X. The first I don’t want, the second I don’t need!

 

[kodos]

I have no idea if this report is correct. All I know is that only one of my friends has one. Which is odd. But there have been more AW purchases in my circles.

That said, I suspect most of these reports are just stock manipulation devices. Someone will make the price go down and buy shares. Apples quarterly results come in and they sell.

And in the meantime a bunch of hardcore fansites will rage and or rejoice.

 

[Juicy Box]

The iPhone 7+ already cost $1000, so "$1000 mobile devices" are hardly news.

I thought the maxed out capacity iPhone 7 was $950? Even still, it is a little different than having the base model start at $1000.

 

[alleggerita]

Face ID worked great for me except for when I just woke up in the morning. If you ask me (given my sweaty and oily digits) it works great for me. So I’m a happy X user.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

A lot can change in one year. Let’s see how Apple responds to the current allegations first and if this results in any change in their current policy.

iPhone7 are in the wild with software ready to slow them already installed. Interesting to see what the second hand value of these drop to.

 

[Dave245]

There were a lot of rumors saying the opposite.

I personally would have liked both, but I am not prepared to spend 1000+ on a new iPhone. I am happy with my SE for now.

There were rumours but i don't think they were true, Apple themselves have said that they never intended to put Touch ID into the iPhone X. I have the iPhone X and it's a brilliant device, personally i love Face ID it works well for me, however i can't speak for everyone, the gestures also make it so that i don't even miss Touch ID a feature that i used daily since the iPhone 5S, for that Apple deserve a BIG round of applause from me at the least.

 

[Archer1440]

I wonder why no one is mentioning the obvious logical fallacy in the source fake news story that led to this thread in first place.

Oh, we know why.

 

[atikalz]

Sources in the semiconductor packaging and testing service industry claim that pre-orders for the iPhone X are not as strong as expected in some markets, such as the U.S., Taiwan, and Singapore, although supply remains tight in other markets including Japan (via DigiTimes).

In contrast, Apple Watch sales are said to have been impressive across the board, with shipment estimates reaching 27 million units, which is higher than an earlier forecast putting the number around 23 to 25 million units.

iPhone X shipments are expected to reach 30-35 million units in the fourth quarter of 2017 and level out or dip slightly going into next year, according to the same sources from the upstream supply chain.

Today's report casts a different light on steady improvements in iPhone X supplies which have seen shipping estimates fall to 1 to 2 weeks in several countries. According to KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who frequently shares accurate information from Apple's supply chain, the supply increase is due to better-than-expected improvements in production since the device's launch, rather than weakening demand.

As a result of the improved production, Kuo believes iPhone X shipments in the fourth calendar quarter could be higher than previous estimates, although he too expects the acceleration to cause shipments in the first quarter of 2018 to be flat or slightly lower compared to the fourth quarter.

Apple is rumored to be launching a trio of new iPhone models in 2018, including 5.8-inch and 6.5-inch models with OLED displays and a 6.1-inch model with an LCD display.

Article Link: Report Claims iPhone X Sales Not as Strong as Expected in the U.S.

What a wonder: The pricing is way over the top. Too much greed does not pay off.

 

[heretiq]

In the long run, maybe but it doesn't work seamlessly for many of us right now, and its by and large less efficient then touchid at the moment. I need to put my code in more often with FaceID then I had too with TouchID.

How did you set up FaceID? In perfect lighting or low-light? I found that setting up FaceID in low-light conditions results in excellent performance under all lighting conditions, with and without hats and glasses and with and without stubble.

As a result, FaceID works almost all the time and I’m rarely prompted for the passcode (mostly for new/unusual situations like face resting on my palm, face partially obscured, etc.). When this happens I maintain the position and enter the code. My understanding is that these new views are added to the FaceID reference images to improve recognition going forward.

After using FaceID and gestures on the iPhone X, TouchID and the home button feel like a step backward on my iPad Pro.

 

[maflynn]

How did you set up FaceID? In perfect lighting or low-light?

I've done it a myriad of ways at this point
Low light, no light, lots of light. With glasses without glasses, staring at the camera intently, looking at the phone normally. Close to my face, far from my face. And of course various combinations of those attempts.

 

[acblue94]

Apple shot themselves in the foot with FAIL ID.

It works with perfection. And quicker then fingerprint ID. Try again.

 

[maflynn]

It works with perfection. And quicker then fingerprint ID. Try again.

Not for everyone

 

[acblue94]

Let's see . Seems people at at the opposite scales of agreement , neither are right at this stage. Time will tell .
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For me that is the best solution. Have touchid and offer faceid as an option .

You must of gotten mad when they removed floppy disk drives for computers also? I mean they should of left it as an option right?
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Not for everyone

Then you have a defect or a problem on your phone. It can’t work perfectly for everyone and not so great for others. Take your phone in. It either works to it doesn’t. And if it doesn’t then it’s the users fault or they have a faulty phone.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

The ridiculous “notch” and FaceID made me pass on the X. The first I don’t want, the second I don’t need!

When the BBC were reporting on the slow down fiasco last night, the reporter was talking to someone on the X, and the notch at the top such a distraction. There should have been a straight top to the image. Samsung or Google would have been slaughtered by Apple followers if they had released this.

 

[maflynn]

Then you have a defect or a problem on your phone. It can’t work perfectly for everyone and not so great for others. Take your phone in. It either works to it doesn’t. And if it doesn’t then it’s the users fault or they have a faulty phone.

I don't believe I do when it works 80 percent. Given the threads in the iPhone forum, I'm not alone, there are others that are dealing with similar issues.

 

[acblue94]

In the long run, maybe but it doesn't work seamlessly for many of us right now, and its by and large less efficient then touchid at the moment. I need to put my code in more often with FaceID then I had too with TouchID.
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Its more then a few more dollars, but I get your point. No matter how you slice it, the phone is expensive. I opted not to finance it because I felt paying 40 something dollars month was excessive.

Then the iPhone X isn’t for for you. Maybe a Bentley isn’t for you either. So chose the BMW and this case choose the iPhone 8. It’s a luxury phone not meant for everyone to buy.