Reports Conflict on iPhone 11 Pro Models Having 4GB or 6GB of RAM

[Hustler1337]

I have never seen the size of the engine omitted from a car spec sheet.

To be fair, car manufacturers are kinda doing that these days. You'll find that many car manufacturers are shifting towards displaying the PS/BHP/HP output of the vehicle rather than the engine size of the car as more and more cars are being fitted with smaller engines. Even they are realising that customers are being put off by finding out that new Mercedes only has a 1.4L engine.

Apple have been doing that for a while, except they take it further by completely avoiding dislosing it even on their spec sheets.

 

[russell_314]

and its reality that 64gb for a camera centric phone that shoots 4k 60hz is bit of a low blow, especially when another 64gb is only 6 bucks more. ofcourse you don't have to accept that either, where i live no one is forcing you

Again a bit low for you. Quoting the manufacturer price is meaningless. I suppose you feel Apple should sell you the iPhone pro for $300 too LOL

 

[Khedron]

To be fair, car manufacturers are kinda doing that these days. You'll find that many car manufacturers are shifting towards displaying the PS/BHP/HP output of the vehicle rather than the engine size of the car as more and more cars are being fitted with smaller engines. Even they are realising that customers are being put off by finding out that new Mercedes only has a 1.4L engine.

Apple have been doing that for a while, except they take it further by completely avoiding dislosing it even on their spec sheets.

RAM isn't some obscure engine technicality. This is like Apple making a car and refusing to tell you what the capacity of the trunk is, and just saying "it's optimised to carry most users' luggage".

 

[ilikewhey]

Again a bit low for you. Quoting the manufacturer price is meaningless. I suppose you feel Apple should sell you the iPhone pro for $300 too LOL

you have a tendency to exaggerate what others are saying.

sure i'll bite if apple sell iphone pro for 300, but fat chance of that happening. but unrealistic. if i'm getting the 11 i know its gonna be the 128gb model.

how is manufacturer price meaningless, apple is a whole buyer who gets wholesale price, chances are apple could pay even less than 10 cents for 3D mlc due to economy of scale.

apple spending 6 bucks more for 128gb base, while charging 10 bucks, thats realistic, but they already doing that, while charging 50 bucks more, cause you know. /profit.

 

[SoundJudgment]

I really, really want that green but I’m curious to know if it’s going to have that sticky/rubbery feel to it like the gold one does? Some people say it’s the PVD coating but the black models also have this and all the reports of stickiness were exclusive to the gold models.

The only 'slick/rubbery feel' to my new iPhone Pro will be from the UAG Monarch Case that will be surrounding it.

 

[blackcrayon]

One, that "Apple is more efficient with RAM" thing is a myth. Two, the processor thing is immaterial, its just a spec to brag about, as both phones are fast. And three, criticizing Apple does not make one a troll.

iOS is more efficient with RAM than Android- always has been. It's at least partly due to Android apps running in a virtual machine vs. Apple's pure compiled apps since day 1. Countless videos are out there showing Android shedding apps before iOS, unless it's a device with double the RAM or more.
The processor "thing" isn't immaterial either, it reflects the primary capability of the phone. The difference may not be earth-shattering, but it *is* a difference to anyone who ever knew or cared anything about computer tech, user experience, actual software abilities, etc. No one goes on a tech comment section and says "The new nVidia 7070X Supra GPU is 25% faster than the AMD UltraMAX, but that's immaterial, it's just a spec!" Apple seems to spend an enormous amount of engineering and money to make their SoC the best in the industry, and it's paid off. They should be complimented for that even if criticized in other areas.

 

[Cristim74]

apple spending 6 bucks more for 128gb base, while charging 10 bucks, thats realistic, but they already doing that, while charging 50 bucks more, cause you know. /profit.

Actually they are charging 50 bucks less this year.

 

[Paul6s]

on a side note, I'm really digging that midnight green

You took the words out of my mouth lol!

 

[realtuner]

Yet no performance difference in running apps.

From Tom's Guide:

Samsung's phone fell behind the iPhone once more on our video editing test, for which we transcode a 4K video to 1080p in the Adobe Rush app. After applying a filter and transition effect and hitting go, the Note 10 Plus took 1 minute and 34 seconds to complete the task. That's good, and a few seconds better than the OnePlus 7 Pro, but the iPhone XS took only 41 seconds.

Your post is nothing but straight up BS.

 

[tagsaid]

Random question, but does anyone know if the iPhone 11Pros purchased on the iPhone upgrade program are world phones or are some stuck on GSM?

I do recall the Xs and Xs Max being able to work on all networks, but my X is only on ATT and TMobile since I got it for ATT.

 

[WatchAndWait]

RAM isn't some obscure engine technicality. This is like Apple making a car and refusing to tell you what the capacity of the trunk is, and just saying "it's optimised to carry most users' luggage".

Remember when Apple sold the orignal iMac and dumb Apple people were saying "Apple is so forward thinking we don't need a floppy drive" you know the most profitable thing sold by Apple; an external floppy drive

 

[Daum]

if this phone is so pro, why is the base model 64gb???? should at LEAST start at 128.

 

[Azzin]

You can make business and be fair. Just like any other OEM which sells their phones starting at 128GB, and some at 256GB even. You are probably the one who defended Apple for selling the 6S at 16GB. No point to even argue, nothing will open your eyes.

But those oems don’t have Apple software on them or use Apple designed hardware.

To offer a product that is (imho) as slick and reliable as an iPhone and offer a support infrastructure to go with it costs big bucks.

Afaik, there are no “Android” stores or unified updates and that’s just one reason why they are cheaper, and come with the “superior” specs you refer to.

Cars are similar. I could go and buy myself a Dacia, that offered great value for money, whilst doing the job, or, I could spend more on a different marque, with more features, a better dealer network etc.

 

[ksec]

I am not sure why this 6GB DRAM rumours is getting posted every where. People trust these leakers, and GSMarena as if they were source of truth.

In Xcode, it clearly shows both model iPhone Pro 11 and Pro Max are in memory class 3, i.e 4GB of Memory.

I hope I am wrong though. I would immediately jump from purchasing a 11 to 11 Pro if it had 6GB DRAM.


Edit: Now I am reading his tweet. ( https://twitter.com/OnLeaks/status/1172073401734828033 )

He is back tracking,

1. he said "Seems Like" ( LOL )
2. He said it is "what official certification platforms says" ( No it is not an official certification platform, it is the Taobao, Amazon of China, as simple as that )

 

[Cristim74]

if this phone is so pro, why is the base model 64gb???? should at LEAST start at 128.

Because in 2019 cloud storage is a commodity.

 

[russell_314]

you have a tendency to exaggerate what others are saying.

sure i'll bite if apple sell iphone pro for 300, but fat chance of that happening. but unrealistic. if i'm getting the 11 i know its gonna be the 128gb model.

how is manufacturer price meaningless, apple is a whole buyer who gets wholesale price, chances are apple could pay even less than 10 cents for 3D mlc due to economy of scale.

apple spending 6 bucks more for 128gb base, while charging 10 bucks, thats realistic, but they already doing that, while charging 50 bucks more, cause you know. /profit.

God forbid a company tries to make a profit lol. Yes I'll agree that Apple could increase the base model to 128 GB for about $50 more but that means all those customers who never used more than 64GB would be paying extra for nothing. The alternative is customers who actually need more can add it. I'm going with allowing me the choice every time.

 

[B4U]

It used to be called British racing green. Thanks, Brexit.

That is not British racing green.
It is more like army green.

 

[EugW]

I am not sure why this 6GB DRAM rumours is getting posted every where. People trust these leakers, and GSMarena as if they were source of truth.

In Xcode, it clearly shows both model iPhone Pro 11 and Pro Max are in memory class 3, i.e 4GB of Memory.

I hope I am wrong though. I would immediately jump from purchasing a 11 to 11 Pro if it had 6GB DRAM.

A bunch of new Geekbench scores have shown up today, including multiple for the iPhone 11 Pro Max, and they all indicate 4 GB.

BTW, a new iPhone 11 score has also shown up and show performance like its OLED cousins, indicating the initial result was an anomalous low score.

 

[mr.steevo]

this is more of a Anantech question but in the smartphone world - there is ZERO issue with the mismatched SSD and RAM as the phone maker (i.e, Apple, Samsung) has their own memory controller that takes care of the management.

Thank you. And interesting.

If Apple moves the A-series chips to Mac then who knows what kind of RAM wizardry we will see.

 

[IG88]

Why is this piece of information (amountt of RAM) not provided during the keynote? Why is it kept secret?

Because Apple has pretty much always had less RAM than the competition, so there's nothing to brag about, marketing wise.

 

[Billyk711]

I swear to god, if it will turn out that only 256/512GB models will have more RAM I'm buying Note 10+.

Good for you, but I would wait a month then it will be free. Because no one buys notes, they wait a couple months till Samsung’s gives them away.

 

[ksec]

A bunch of new Geekbench scores have shown up today, including multiple for the iPhone 11 Pro Max, and they all indicate 4 GB.

BTW, a new iPhone 11 score has also shown up and show performance like its OLED cousins, indicating the initial result was an anomalous low score.

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I trust XCode > Geekbench >>>>..................> OnLeaks or GSMarena. And yet these stories keep getting posted.

I guess I am new to the world of Echo Chamber.

( But Please I really want to be wrong .... )

 

[Hustler1337]

RAM isn't some obscure engine technicality. This is like Apple making a car and refusing to tell you what the capacity of the trunk is, and just saying "it's optimised to carry most users' luggage".

I was responding to the person who made the comparison between RAM and engine size. Anyhow, I don't agree with your example - it would make more sense in relation to hard-drive space.

The reason why Apple is not publicly dislosing their RAM is because they know it's far less compared to their competition. There's plenty of consumers out there who will instantly be put off if they found out the shiny new $1000+ iPhone only had 3GB of RAM. It's enough to put them off, despite the fact that it will still outperform its competitors. Apple prefers to let its real-world performance and experience do the talking.

 

[Khedron]

I was responding to the person who made the comparison between RAM and engine size. Anyhow, I don't agree with your example - it would make more sense in relation to hard-drive space.

The reason why Apple is not publicly dislosing their RAM is because they know it's far less compared to their competition. There's plenty of consumers out there who will instantly be put off if they found out the shiny new $1000+ iPhone only had 3GB of RAM. It's enough to put them off, despite the fact that it will still outperform its competitors. Apple prefers to let its real-world performance and experience do the talking.

Easy way to decode Apple's claims:

"best X in any smartphone" means X is slightly above the industry standard
"best X we've ever put in an iPhone" means X is way below the industry standard

 

[MacUser09425]

if this phone is so pro, why is the base model 64gb???? should at LEAST start at 128.

Because Apple thinks (or knows based on their own data) that iPhone users are increasingly using iCloud. You can vote with your wallet. As others have said, Apple does (and doesn’t need to) get into a ‘Spec War’ with Android running smartphone makers - they’re selling an end to end experience.