Reports Suggest Ring Allowed Employees Unfettered Access to Customer Camera Feeds

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  1. kamikrazee macrumors newbie


    Feb 17, 2016
    right here
    I am almost numb to big companies spying on consumers, so I wasn't genuinely surprised at this, especially the insinuation that Amazon was involved. I was genuinely alarmed when Ukraine was mentioned. I realize that it is (ostensibly) an independent country, but you might as well have said that the lab was next door to the KGB Cyber Research Center.
  2. Bacillus Suspended


    Jun 25, 2009
    Is there a way to order a summary of persons I had sex with (my administration got wonky) ?
  3. oneMadRssn macrumors 601


    Sep 8, 2011
    New England
    At least with Wyzecam, they're cheap. But Ring, Arlo, Nest, Ring, etc. are all crazy expensive for what they are. Might as well buy a regular Amcrest IP cam and a NVR (or any other brand), and control your own data. It's really not that much more, especially considering no monthly subscriptions ever with an NVR.
  4. TooMuch macrumors newbie

    Jan 6, 2009
    This is not an issue because my floodlight cams audio suck. They will not be able to hear anything.
  5. Heineken macrumors 6502a


    Jan 27, 2018
    Gross. Don't do that.
  6. ajfahey macrumors regular


    Jun 28, 2001
    Moorpark, CA
    Walls work? Who knew?
  7. MVMNT macrumors member

    Apr 28, 2010
    Looks like i'm not the only one who's first thought was "GDPR?"
  8. B4U macrumors 68000


    Oct 11, 2012
    Undisclosed location
    eh, I beg to differ.
    Those were NEVER innocent to begin with.
  9. AppleMad98004 macrumors 6502

    Aug 23, 2011
    Cylde Hill, WA
    Hope Jeff Bezo's doesn't have one of these, there might be even more pictures of his cheating coming out soon :eek:......
  10. Macaholic868 macrumors 6502


    Feb 2, 2017
    Why am I not surprised? Apple is one of the few consumer technology companies that actually cares about your privacy and to the extent that it hampers things like Siri I’m fine with it. I don’t believe that alone explains how far behind Siri is from it’s competitors but I do believe that is a part of it. That is why I remain a loyal customer. You get what you pay for. The bitterness of low quality remains long after the sweetness of a low price.
  11. Rocko99991 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 25, 2017
    We put 24/7 video and audio listening devices in our homes and are shocked by this? You think it's purely for convenience?
  12. Commodore 64 macrumors member

    Mar 12, 2009
    This makes me think about the main headline in the news here in Norway right now. A lady has been kidnapped and the kidnappers demand $10 million (yeah, the family is rich) in the cryptocurrency monero. Some security experts got interviewed and one of the main advices was to regularly change your schedules to prevent kidnapping.

    So I think this incident with Ring isn’t only about privacy, but about how easily criminals can get hold of information that can be misused. I see some jokes here about videos of driveways but if videos of your porch or driveway can be bought that’s a bad thing. I sure don’t want criminals having an easy time doing research on what times our family members leave and return.

    Not that I have to be paranoid about it, I have way to little money to be of any interest to kidnappers, guess that goes for most of us anyway;)
  13. BeefCake 15 macrumors 65816

    BeefCake 15

    May 15, 2015
    near Boston, MA
    Firewall perhaps?
  14. techwhiz macrumors 6502a

    Feb 22, 2010
    Northern Ca.
    People don't get it.
    The only thing that bugs me is T-Mobile, AT&T, et al selling data to people. This you have no control because they are using E911 and cell data. As far as devices listening to you. There is no way, I would put a Ring, Alexa, etc in my house. There is no way I will put an internet connected TV with a camera in my house. Devices with audio/video capability will never be permanently connected to my home network. Even my laptop has a cover over the camera.

    Yeah, call me paranoid, but they are watching and listening.
  15. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    They're owned by Amazon. Are we really that surprised.
  16. techwhiz macrumors 6502a

    Feb 22, 2010
    Northern Ca.
    I have a SonicWall to protect my network, both in and out.
    But it's sad that we need to block access on devices inside of our networks.
  17. stylinexpat, Jan 10, 2019
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    stylinexpat macrumors 65816


    Mar 6, 2009
    Perhaps Apple should make one that works with Apple products and link it to their iCloud. Would one made by Apple be more secure?
    What happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone? Will what happens at your doorstep stay at your doorstep?
  18. tridley68 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 28, 2014
    I just get up off my lazy butt and answer the door so I don't have this problem that Window in the top of the door works amazing
  19. ipponrg macrumors 65816

    Oct 15, 2008
    What did we learn here?

    If you're worried about people accessing your cams, then educate yourself on technology.

    Maybe it's better to run your own webcams + NAS set up than to use a 3rd party cam service.
  20. Kaibelf Suspended


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    And people hem and haw about how far ahead Alexa and Google are than Siri and HomeKit. This is why they are “ahead.” Ridiculous (for sale) access to your life. Enjoy that! I’ll stick with HomeKit until you give me proof that my life is for sale there.
  21. itguy06 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 8, 2006
    And yet I bet you still buy stuff from Amazon...

    If you don't like it don't buy Ring and more importantly don't shop at Amazon. They will get the hint and either change or go out of business. Both of which are a net win for us all.
    --- Post Merged, Jan 10, 2019 ---
    Also put Amazon on your Do Not Shop list
  22. HiRez macrumors 603


    Jan 6, 2004
    Western US
    Is anyone even surprised? If something has a camera or microphone, I just assume someone is hacking or abusing it, or it has bugs that allow these things to happen.
  23. Rocko99991 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 25, 2017
    99.5% of people don't know how or won't do this.

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