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Research in Motion Launches 'Torch' Smartphone and BlackBerry 6 OS

markm49uk said:
For many companies the BES server is one of those technologies were you keep your fingers crossed that nothing ever goes wrong because when it does all hell can break loose - the support from the network provider, Vodafone, is extremely poor and we have had numerous outages over the past year or so despite investing huge amounts of cash into new infrastructure and software upgrades.
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Management is only has good as your team. We have a large BB user base (over 25,000) and like everything it has its hiccups but its pretty solid. The iPhones are solid also. You can thank Activesync for that.


Tonewheel said:
"BlackBerry 6 also offers a new "Social Messages" application that aims to integrate instant messaging, Twitter, Facebook and other social tools across services."

And other important business applications.....
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Social Networking is huge these days in business. Especially the business I am in. Twitter and Facebook integration are big big big. Most of our BB users who switched from BB to iPhone did so because of the Twitter/FB integration.
 
Tonewheel said:
"BlackBerry 6 also offers a new "Social Messages" application that aims to integrate instant messaging, Twitter, Facebook and other social tools across services."

And other important business applications.....
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Yeah well those little things already have been out on RIM for a while and work really well. Rim offically twitter app works really well. On Facebook it will go threw you contacts and pull their face book picture and put it on that respect contact. It really rather nice having a picture for most people in my contacts list with out having to manually do it for all of them.
It all integratts into the main message folder
 
archipellago said:
eh..?

I'll take all those blackberries back then....

what an ignorant and sweeping statement.


my point was that mobile apps..as a general term... are a waste of time when it comes 'getting things done'
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from the business standpoint you stand behind, the iphone does mail, phone (the service you get with the iPhone on AT&T WILL be the same on this Blackberry), not to mention visual voicemail, facetime (given you have an iPhone 4), tell me from this "getting things done" standpoint, what does the
Blackberry do better than the iPhone?
 
Tonewheel said:
"BlackBerry 6 also offers a new "Social Messages" application that aims to integrate instant messaging, Twitter, Facebook and other social tools across services."

And other important business applications.....
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Apparently Facebook for business IS popular - even the Olive Garden has a page! :rolleyes:
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Some one who does not understand hardware keyboards at all.

While the res is kind of low the OS from waht I have seen is pretty promising and still holds true to the core of the OS.

As for the hardware keyboards RIM blackberry are the the gold standard when it comes to them. Touch screen keyboards have a lot of draw backs. One is ZERO tactile feel so you more need to look at the when typing on it. Also when the keyboard is in used on a touch screen it eats up a LOT of screen space to be used. The slider hardware gives the advantage of keeping all the screen space and still having a keyboard.
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Samsung Epic 4G>>>> BB
 
Lol, looks like the same Blackberry to me. I can't believe they held a media event for this phone. Blackberry is OLD news. Seriously! The hardware in these phone are so BC (before christ). And the software, LOL. Whatever is BC, is what the software is.
 
Great news.

This phone isn't geared to all of you, who check a mobile fan site daily, its aimed at a different type of market, a business phone.

My dad NEEDS a real keyboard, touch screens simply don't work on his hands - self employed labourer. His hands are constantly cut, dirty or so hard he can't even use his fingers on my iphone 4.

Someone explain to me, what other options are there for him?

Don't say the iphone, he simply can't use it the way he needs to use it.
 
Kiirk said:
Great news.

This phone isn't geared to all of you, who check a mobile fan site daily, its aimed at a different type of market, a business phone.

My dad NEEDS a real keyboard, touch screens simply don't work on his hands - self employed labourer. His hands are constantly cut, dirty or so hard he can't even use his fingers on my iphone 4.

Someone explain to me, what other options are there for him?

Don't say the iphone, he simply can't use it the way he needs to use it.
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But, its no different than the other Blackberries. Heck, he can get a 9700 that runs Blackberry 6 and probably won't notice a difference. But, if he needs a keyboard, get the latest and greatest Blackberry.
 
I used 3 blackberry phones before iPhone 1 launched, then I used both blackberry and iPhone in parallel, with BB for work and iPhone (3GS) for personal. I later fully transitioned to iPhone since my company finally allowed iPhone as a corporate supported platform.

iPhone is better in many ways, but in all fairness RIM is still much better at its keyboard and push emails. My outlook exchange speed is not as fast as BES, and experience more problems that I could solve by restarting iPhones (suggesting client side). Btw I work in my companies IT department supporting application development project management, so I do know what I am talking about.
 
nfl46 said:
But, its no different than the other Blackberries. Heck, he can get a 9700 that runs Blackberry 6 and probably won't notice a difference. But, if he needs a keyboard, get the latest and greatest Blackberry.
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He's looking at the 9700, and I was saying it was good that 6.0 was out.
 
Very meh, the Palm Pre released last year is still a better phone which goes to show you that RIM still aren't getting it.
 
Full of Win said:
The OS looks as far beyond iOS4 as did iOS1 looked compared to Windows Mobile in early 2007. Makes my iPhone 4 look stale.
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Huh???? To me this looked antiquated. I don't know what you saw but I saw clunky icons. Confusing interfaces. Nothing special here. RIM is in trouble.
 
I think it's good for what it is. I think RIM are good at what they do. I don't think they're trying to compete with apple's feature list or hardware.
 
Not being an iPhone does not mean the company is irrelevant going out of business. Friends don't let friends troll. ;)
 
iPhone VS Everybody.

It seems like yesterday when the CEO of Motorola said, Is not going to be a walk on the park for the computer folks @ Apple to rule in this market and three years later :D. People stop please, why all this crap about enterprise, normal people like my self don't even care about it, all we care about is that the phone works and easy to use and on that department Apple Rules!!! I mean sorry if I hurt someone feeling but thats the way it is. So far I can say much about the new BlackBerry Torch 9800 phone, it just look like is not even in the competition . On the other hand when it comes to the droid I'm still waiting for the one to say this is the iPhone killer. When it comes to the iPhone it was a HOME RUN since day one. Everyone that owns the iPhone knows how great this phone is, when I talk to friends with droid the first thing they say, nothing seems organize.
:apple: Rules!!!!
 
A touchscreen phone with a 2 keyboards really nice (not) , the screen is much to small for a smartphone, it looks to be built around social networking but the market they currently have is based of 80% 40yo+ business man who do not care about that, and has a design that my girlfriend finds nice (so mostly oriented for girls) but even she wold not like to have one over her 3g.
So i say this phone is a fail , but then again i cold be wrong it wold not be a first time.
 
Nice design, terrible hardware and OS. A screen that low-res, with a CPU that slow? :rolleyes:

If it had actually been a modern product, the design would've sold me on it quite quickly.
 
Wait, is this the mythical iPhone Killer?

I've lost track now.

First it was the Droid, then the EVO, then the Droid X, now it's the Torch... so many iPhone Killers, so little time.
 
mpaquette said:
Is this some kind of joke? The Eris doesn't even fully support Exchange. What are you using them for, makeup mirrors?
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Probably. :D I'm not on the road, so I don't have a company phone, anyway.

I tried to get them to switch to iPhone if nothing else, since the Exchange support is much better since last summer. But they believe everything our moronic IT company tells them. These guys are marginal at best.
 
What a retarded, uninspired, schizoid piece of old kit. Are RIM trying to commit ritual public suicide here or do they really think this is acceptable?
 
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