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I don't think RIM handled the launch of the Torch properly - they set it up as an iPhone-style launching, which invites iPhone comparisons. The Torch clearly isn't an iPhone killer - no one who's already drunk the iPhone koolaid will reconsider it for a Torch. BlackBerrys and iPhones operate in different spheres and setting them up for direct comparison will only hurt RIM.

That said, I'm looking forward to OS6 being available on RIM's bread-and-butter - QWERTY smartphones. It brings a lot of nice enhancements - drop-down notifications, easy access to connection options (basically a built-in SBsettings). At the end of the day, having these options (along with BB's usual functions, like dialing from the homescreen, true multitasking, zippy OS, notification LED) is a lot more appealing to me than the iPhone's eyecandy.
 
Apple has always been pushed to do better,
regardless of competition.
take a look back at all the previous products!
Apple has NEVER been the trendsetter in technology!

fixed that for you.

you need to stop being delusional and do some historical research.
 
I just saw that - if SAMSUNG updates the Captivate to 2.2 ill give android a try

2.2 thus far has been good. Just got my exchange 2010 setup all done. Works flawless! The only thing I really miss from the iPhone is the Mail app. I just need to find a good one on the Android Marketplace.
 
BlackBerry: Still trying to stay relevant


For people in the Enterprise worlds this is huge.

Why? What does this offer that any other smartphone or OS couldn't? A physical keyboard? Because that alone isn't a good enough reason. It's the same crappy hardware and setup that hasn't changed in over a decade.


Some one who does not understand hardware keyboards at all.

While the res is kind of low the OS from waht I have seen is pretty promising and still holds true to the core of the OS.

As for the hardware keyboards RIM blackberry are the the gold standard when it comes to them. Touch screen keyboards have a lot of draw backs. One is ZERO tactile feel so you more need to look at the when typing on it. Also when the keyboard is in used on a touch screen it eats up a LOT of screen space to be used. The slider hardware gives the advantage of keeping all the screen space and still having a keyboard.

Not really relevant when said keyboard buttons are so damn tiny you have to have the arms of an ant to work them.
 
Oh yes BES...

Come on you are all a smart bunch of people. You do realize that RIM is not in the same market as the iPhone and Android. They are geared more towards enterprises who utilize BES.

Well as someone who up until recently managed such an enterprise full of Blackberry's managed via a BES server I can tell you that we could not get away from that environment quick enough.

For many companies the BES server is one of those technologies were you keep your fingers crossed that nothing ever goes wrong because when it does all hell can break loose - the support from the network provider, Vodafone, is extremely poor and we have had numerous outages over the past year or so despite investing huge amounts of cash into new infrastructure and software upgrades.

When you factor in the licencing costs we came to the conclusion that for us, in combination with the end-user desire for alternatives, that we would start to migrate users to iPhones as and when the opportunity arose.

So far the feedback from our end-users has been fantastic and in terms of support my team are extremely happy supporting the iPhone - they hardly get any calls!

RIM are on borrowed time - they seriously need to up their game. Sadly for them this is not good enough.
 
well gee - if you take some of the posters in here seriously you'd say that the blackberry isn't a competitor ;)

Are you suggesting that ATT ONLY carry iPhones? That would be ridiculous.

nope, just wondering if there were some double standards. although technically, if anything, i am suggesting end of exclusivity. ;)
 
You obviously have not seen one for yourself. The difference is huge. Screen resolution makes a huge difference; it's not about being nicer. I can read webpages without zooming in, and my email looks better than it does on a computer.

tell you the truth I have and I have compared them side by side on the same web page.

Is the iPhone4 better. Yes it is. It is very noticeable but at the same time the gain in terms of usability is fairly small. The amount of information that can be displayed and read at the same time is roughly the same. The higher res does not really gain you anything. It just makes things a little sharper.
 
BlackBerry: Still trying to stay relevant




Why? What does this offer that any other smartphone or OS couldn't? A physical keyboard? Because that alone isn't a good enough reason. It's the same crappy hardware and setup that hasn't changed in over a decade.


It offer IT policy control and security. iOS and Android are a job compared to the amount of control a BES admin has over the phone connected to their BES.

BES offers a HUGE amount of centralized control over the phones on their network. You also have a better push email system. and as a pure communication devise the Blackberry OS is just better.
 
Is it similar to the iP4's camera? I didnt see anything about having one of the better sensors, just that it was 5mp.

Anyone have any details?

You mean a CCD with bigger pixels (=more light trapped), etc?

I don't think the IT types that use BBs give a damn about that, or that RIM cares enough about those kind of details...
 
I'm not normally one to go picking at the opinions of others when it comes to matters that are usually subjective. However this is just inaccurate. Steve may lay the hype on thick when it comes to new products, but when it comes to the display on the i4 he was dead straight.

I went from perfectly satisfied with the 3GS screen to wondering how I lived without the i4 display in a matter of seconds. Reading books, browsing, watching movies, etc... is almost like a different experience now.


Apart from overstating the display both in pixels and in what the retina can actually see then yes he was spot on...! :rolleyes:

Jobs did what he always does...... lies...

people who read books on smartphone screens truly are *special*. ;)
 
It offer IT policy control and security. iOS and Android are a job compared to the amount of control a BES admin has over the phone connected to their BES.

BES offers a HUGE amount of centralized control over the phones on their network. You also have a better push email system. and as a pure communication device the Blackberry OS is just better.

great post...

also the Blackberry (as a comms device) is not just better, it's MUCH ,much better
 
For the Backberry faithful this will go over well. To others, this is just another "RIM-job" as one co-worker calls all Blackberry products. RIM has this uncanny ability to take something exciting and interesting and turn it down a notch to where it is more "safe" for corporate customers with less zeal.

Notice all the user interface elements are mostly 2D slides with very little if any other form of animation. I can see it now, some high zeal interface expert showing off all these animation elements like flips, rotations and extrusions to communication a network action to the guys that have lead RIM from the beginning.

These guys then sip their de-caff coffee, pause for almost a minute letting the new hire sweat. Then someone who is concerned about having some opinion says, "Interesting but I think our customers would be confused by all this busy action on such a small screen." All the cool stuff that was worked on for months is taken out and we get this. The rock music tries to cover what should have been there.
 
oh boy....

"BlackBerry 6 also offers a new "Social Messages" application that aims to integrate instant messaging, Twitter, Facebook and other social tools across services."

And other important business applications.....
 
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