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Resolutions and Features of All-OLED iPhone 12 Lineup Detailed in New Report
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64mp from a sensor mere millimeters wide is a joke and will consume tons of unnecessary storage. I hope there’s an option to keep it at whatever the actual native resolution is, my guess is 12 or 16.
also, to go down to 5.4 (my dream size) I will have to give up my 512gb, my telephoto lens, and presumably my multi day battery life, or I have to get an *even larger* phone?
also, to go down to 5.4 (my dream size) I will have to give up my 512gb, my telephoto lens, and presumably my multi day battery life, or I have to get an *even larger* phone?
Having this higher PPI is very un-Apple. If you downscale it to ˜460PPI it should be 2262 x 1044 for the 5.4" Which I think makes much more sense.
Now I am sceptical of pricing, before Spec and Price dont add up. At first I was not expecting this high res OLED Panel, and was worry about battery life in 5.4". Turns out Apple is using integrated Panel for likely a slightly larger battery.
This doesn't come cheap. You then Add the expected Qualcomm 5G Modem which is actually a cost increase for Apple. And so far nothing on the spec sheet suggest Apple is getting some cost reduction.
If those $649 were 64GB it would make much more sense. The iPhone Pro is also too cheap for something with mmWave. I hope I am wrong, but these things dont add up.
BUT, BUT. IF it is true.... this is ONE HECK OF A LINEUP. ( I just hope iOS 14 dont mess it up )
Now I am sceptical of pricing, before Spec and Price dont add up. At first I was not expecting this high res OLED Panel, and was worry about battery life in 5.4". Turns out Apple is using integrated Panel for likely a slightly larger battery.
This doesn't come cheap. You then Add the expected Qualcomm 5G Modem which is actually a cost increase for Apple. And so far nothing on the spec sheet suggest Apple is getting some cost reduction.
If those $649 were 64GB it would make much more sense. The iPhone Pro is also too cheap for something with mmWave. I hope I am wrong, but these things dont add up.
BUT, BUT. IF it is true.... this is ONE HECK OF A LINEUP. ( I just hope iOS 14 dont mess it up )
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I don’t think there’s anything they can do short of going back to LCD. AFAIK going back to DC dimming on the OLEDS causes them to lose color fidelity at dimmer levels. Maybe would be nice if Apple added an ability to pick between DC/PWM in the accessibility settings.
Ok so let me get this straight the most expensive model will have the lesser PPI? I'm confused.
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I could be wrong but I feel that these PPI Numbers are wrong. How can the premium 12 Pro Max Samsung display no less come in the lowest resolution.
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I have thus far always bought the "pro" equivalent iPhone, but if Apple thinks I'm going to pay $300 more for an extra camera and tens of millions vs millions of colors they are wrong.
So far the most exciting upgrade is a slightly more pocketable phone. Either there is some yet unknown pro feature or Apple isn't going to sell nearly as many Pro models as in the past.
So far the most exciting upgrade is a slightly more pocketable phone. Either there is some yet unknown pro feature or Apple isn't going to sell nearly as many Pro models as in the past.
I will never buy a notched iPhone. I will never use one, even if it's free to me.
The notch is NOT like the camera bump at all. This is a different beast, a failure. You see the camera bump had a reason to exist: To allow the iPhone to be able to take wider photographs, not being screwed by iPhone protective cases blocking the view. Everyone wears a case, so the camera bump doesn't matter at all.
The notch, is not something you can forget. I am able to have a larger screen but can't due to there being this hideous notch created by the front facing camera and microphone. There could be so much more information in that top area.
It comes down to this: Apple couldn't figure out how to place the selfie camera, microphone/speaker and sensors up high enough. They didn't want to wait with the 10th anniversary coming up for a better option, just like all the other idiotic phones out there with cameras sticking out of the screen.
Man if anything, the screen needs to have a curve outward, bottom as well. More is more. Can't do that because video is made with sharp edges. You would cut off video. Screw the edgeless screen dream it doesn't matter anymore because there is a case, unless they make the sides incredibly strong on the phone its self with the rest of the phone protected.
Can you imaging how many people would be pissed off if they couldn't use the entire screen because it's obscured by a case, which they will only want to have a case to protect their product?
I think the notch was the biggest mistake Apple ever made. It's a complete eye sore. It will go back to normal, it's just a matter of time.
Look to billboards of the iPhones X and beyond. You can see Apple awkwardly hiding behind its mistake; Planets with dark space covering the notch. Every single iPhone since the X, until iPhone SE2 came back out from SE.
Ah, sneaking back in with the notch-less norm.
Pitiful.
Worst marketing mistake ever made and iPhone 12 better have no notches or I'm sticking with my free iPhone 8 (I should still have my iPhone 6S but I got a free iPhone 8) or getting the SE2 because it still has a home button thank god.
You know what really sucks is that even without a notch, Apple still doesn't make this one crucial option available: To not have anything displayed on the top of the screen; Wifi, Cellular, Time, Lock, and when they still have it there, they still don't add on Date. Still no date. Date is crucial. Can't really get Date on the lock screen, because it's obscured by Battery % for 4 seconds.
The notch is NOT like the camera bump at all. This is a different beast, a failure. You see the camera bump had a reason to exist: To allow the iPhone to be able to take wider photographs, not being screwed by iPhone protective cases blocking the view. Everyone wears a case, so the camera bump doesn't matter at all.
The notch, is not something you can forget. I am able to have a larger screen but can't due to there being this hideous notch created by the front facing camera and microphone. There could be so much more information in that top area.
It comes down to this: Apple couldn't figure out how to place the selfie camera, microphone/speaker and sensors up high enough. They didn't want to wait with the 10th anniversary coming up for a better option, just like all the other idiotic phones out there with cameras sticking out of the screen.
Man if anything, the screen needs to have a curve outward, bottom as well. More is more. Can't do that because video is made with sharp edges. You would cut off video. Screw the edgeless screen dream it doesn't matter anymore because there is a case, unless they make the sides incredibly strong on the phone its self with the rest of the phone protected.
Can you imaging how many people would be pissed off if they couldn't use the entire screen because it's obscured by a case, which they will only want to have a case to protect their product?
I think the notch was the biggest mistake Apple ever made. It's a complete eye sore. It will go back to normal, it's just a matter of time.
Look to billboards of the iPhones X and beyond. You can see Apple awkwardly hiding behind its mistake; Planets with dark space covering the notch. Every single iPhone since the X, until iPhone SE2 came back out from SE.
Ah, sneaking back in with the notch-less norm.
Pitiful.
Worst marketing mistake ever made and iPhone 12 better have no notches or I'm sticking with my free iPhone 8 (I should still have my iPhone 6S but I got a free iPhone 8) or getting the SE2 because it still has a home button thank god.
You know what really sucks is that even without a notch, Apple still doesn't make this one crucial option available: To not have anything displayed on the top of the screen; Wifi, Cellular, Time, Lock, and when they still have it there, they still don't add on Date. Still no date. Date is crucial. Can't really get Date on the lock screen, because it's obscured by Battery % for 4 seconds.
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Yeah, and everyone here said that TOUCH ID was dead, let it go and were mean about it.
And COVID-19 and FACE ID failed to work. HAHA!
Sometimes it is really is necessary to reinvent the wheel.
COVID-19 is not the norm, so that’s a straw man if I’ve ever seen one. It will eventually either go away or become part of our daily life and what we’re doing now will be a quaint footnote in history 10 years from now, if that.
The removal 3D Touch from the iPhone 11 Pro, the 11 Pro Max and the introduction of the iPhone SE were the final nails in the coffin. Nice try, but no cigar!
Couldn’t agree more. USB-C is a must at this point.
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It seriously is. The Pro Display XDR doesn’t even support 100% P3.
I agree, but let me put it like this. If Apple did that, and put a black bar at the top of the screen, then the complaint would be that it’s not actually edge to edge, and the video is still not full screen. So yes, it would be more aesthetically pleasing, but people would still complain. literally, no matter what Apple does, people are going to complain. They would complain about something else if the notch wasn’t a factor. I’ve literally seen complaints about how the mute switch is shapedIt’s for professionals who are experts at using their phones and therefore possess certain skills which allow them to compensate for the lower pixel density. /s
I hear you. A counter argument, from my perspective as a hobby designer: whatever added screen real estate is gained by using the trapezoidal cutout shape doesn’t justify the aesthetic compromise. It’s essentially useless space. The phone would look so much better with a solid black bezel bar at the top, and I’m quite certain there would still be room up there for a battery status indicator and the date/time field (as has been the case with every notch-less phone since the dawn of phones.)
For the record the notch won’t prevent me from buying a 5.4” 12 if the rest of the phone is awesome. But it will feel like a defeat.
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Here’s exactly how they are similar, they’re both obstructions of some type of consistency. The notch interrupts the screen, and the camera bump interrupts the smooth back. Either way, both don’t change the way you use the phone at all. I guarantee you that if the notch was completely removed, The space where it is currently located is not gonna be that useful.
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I need to know what time it is way more often than I need to know what the date is.
Also, you defined this as a marketing mistake, but the iPhone XR was the best selling iPhone last year, and it has a notch.
therefore, I think the marketing is working just fine. The market likes the phones with the notches, and there’s no reasonable way to completely remove it at the moment without increasing the price, so it’s staying around. And if you don’t like it, I have a simple solution. I can’t believe no one’s thought of this before. So listen closely...
DON’T BUY IT!!!
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Due to the pentile sub-pixel arrangement, OLED displays need a higher pixel density than IPS displays in order to have a similar display quality. The pentile sub-pixel arrangement was a common complaint in the early days of OLED on phones and the manufacturers just outmuscled those problems by increasing pixel density until no one could tell.
That is why the "iPhone 11/XR only has a ~720p display" takes were nonsense. An OLED at ~720p would have looked terrible in comparison. Every time I have looked at them side-by-side, the iPhone 11 has looked every bit as good as my XS Max, except for the black levels.
The most expensive model will have the most amount of pixels. But because 5.4 is smaller than 6.7, The pixels are packed much closer together.
I’m pretty sure the goal is to have all the iPhones right around that 450-500PPI.
And overall, the difference between 458 and 475 PPI it’s so small, that the bigger screen will probably still look better because of the better colors and XDR
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Between 2012 and 2018, the 13 inch MacBook Pro had more PPI compared to the 15 inch. 227 for 13 inch vs 220 for 15 inch.
Also, back when the iPad was 9.7 inches, it technically had a lower PPI than the Mini
Yep, thanks, totally aware (I need to start attaching my CV / post history ...), but a great contribution nonetheless.
The way it's shaping up, this'll be a first-day purchase for me.
I was planning to maybe keep my Xʀ for another year but the base model 12 having 128gb and hopefully being less than £700...??
Take my bloody money Timmy!!!
Take my bloody money Timmy!!!
That’s most likely referencing the Panorama shots. Currently the tech specs for iPhone 11 show “up to 63MP” for the Panorama support.
Dont get me wrong guys but sometime i think if apple reduce or shrink the notch size then iphones will lost their identity and with smaller notches it will look like normal oppo/vivo type smartphone, no one will be able to recognise the iphone from front/back from some distance, People in my country only buy iphones just to show off that apple logo and some kind of luxury life they are living, most of the people with good amount of money are dumb and dont care about specifications, they either spend Money on expensive cars or smartphones (gadgets) so i think if apple change their iphone design to look like more other chinese brands then few people will buy here in my country. I hope someone will understand my stupid point Or thinking here but what i said is true somehow.😕
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I think in any country the lowest price model is always a hit because most of the people can afford it and maximum people fulfil their dreams of buying iphone for first time in life by buying lowest end model so that they can also get into so called show off or luxury life in front of their friends or relatives. 😒
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I think in any country the lowest price model is always a hit because most of the people can afford it and maximum people fulfil their dreams of buying iphone for first time in life by buying lowest end model so that they can also get into so called show off or luxury life in front of their friends or relatives. 😒
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That way you can ditch the advantages while keeping the disadvantages. Sounds very smart.
I only noticed it on my XS Max because the dev of my one game was taking forever to update so the content wasn't blocked by the notch anymore. Same thing happened with 11PM, but the update only took a few days that time instead of a month+.
No problem, those folks already won’t buy them because 5G causes cancer and COVID-19, just like windmills.
Well, it's Apple. They "invented" a lot of great stuff, so they could "invent" a PWM free OLED. I'm being a little bit sarcastic, but you know what's my point. If all the new iPhones are OLED with PWM, it means a lot of people just won't be able to buy a new iPhone except the new SE. Is microled gonna solve the PWM problem?
These names and sizes make no sense... iPhone 12 Max - 6.1" / iPhone 12 Pro - 6.1" wtf? I really hope these rumors don't turn out to be true. The current size of the 11 Pro at 5.8" is PERFECT. Any bigger and I would not be able to hold it properly (I'm sure I'm not alone on that). Why should those of us that prefer slightly smaller devices be punished by either getting an unwieldy size or the more comfortable size that is NOT the top of the lineup? I was extremely excited when the X came out because it finally had the camera upgrades and screen size from the Plus models from the 2 years before, but at the same body size as the 6-7. The Max was fine for people that wanted a bigger screen or more battery life. I have barely seen any comments saying they wish the Max was bigger. These rumors are ridiculous and I hope they're wrong.
Edit: Also, I was just thinking as to why Apple would make the move to 6.1" over 5.8" and I believe it has to do with the XR and 11 sales which, if that is the case, still makes completely no sense. Sure, they were the best selling models in their respective release years, but that doesn't mean people were flocking to those phones because of the screen size or the battery life (most weren't anyway). They sold incredibly well because they were the LEAST EXPENSIVE PHONES IN THOSE LINEUPS. A large portion of people deciding which iPhone to get, especially nowadays, do not decide by the features of the phone. They decide by the price tag. Of course if you release a model that is $200-300 cheaper, more people will buy it. If this is their logic behind the rumored move, it is truly unfortunate.
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Edit: Also, I was just thinking as to why Apple would make the move to 6.1" over 5.8" and I believe it has to do with the XR and 11 sales which, if that is the case, still makes completely no sense. Sure, they were the best selling models in their respective release years, but that doesn't mean people were flocking to those phones because of the screen size or the battery life (most weren't anyway). They sold incredibly well because they were the LEAST EXPENSIVE PHONES IN THOSE LINEUPS. A large portion of people deciding which iPhone to get, especially nowadays, do not decide by the features of the phone. They decide by the price tag. Of course if you release a model that is $200-300 cheaper, more people will buy it. If this is their logic behind the rumored move, it is truly unfortunate.
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That right there completely invalidates whatever you said after it. If you have never owned or at least used the phone for at least a week or two as your daily driver, you have nothing to add to the conversation.
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