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Retina MacBook Pro Shipping Estimates Improving to 1-2 Weeks
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Display Lag? (or scrolling lag?)
Display lag?
I understand that CRTs have virtually no lag (nanoseconds) due the the inherent analogue technology (It only has to go through analog circuits, and there is no frame buffer or anyway to process and store the images before displaying, obviously)
LCD displays and their GPUs driving them cause microseconds of lag, but it's still something I've never noticed. I looked up to see if the scalling on the Retina MacBook Pro was causing and additional lag - NO!
Perhaps, you're where talking about the scrolling lag and that the GeForce GT 650M can't handle the 3840x2160p screen scaled to 2880x1800 display when showing a 1920x1200 HiDPI desktop? (Or any HiDPI scaling?) I looked at it, and I was still very impressed, the scrolling was quite good even when video and pictures were still loading on the page while scrolling at the same time!
I have a Radeon HD 4850 in my 27" iMac and the scrolling hasn't been the best even though my desktop GPU scores 6% higher (on Average G3D Mark) than the mobile GeForce GT 650M. I don't know why, but scrolling seems better on the Retina MacBook Pro than on my 27" iMac, and I only have 3.7 MP (Million Pixels), while the Retina MacBook Pro has 5.2 MP and has to do resolution doubling and scaling too.
(Remember, I saw all this with Core Animation in use on Safari 6, if you're using Safari 5.1.7 on Lion, it won't look as good, perhaps there is as much scrolling lag as I used to see on this 27" iMac.)
Display lag?
I understand that CRTs have virtually no lag (nanoseconds) due the the inherent analogue technology (It only has to go through analog circuits, and there is no frame buffer or anyway to process and store the images before displaying, obviously)
LCD displays and their GPUs driving them cause microseconds of lag, but it's still something I've never noticed. I looked up to see if the scalling on the Retina MacBook Pro was causing and additional lag - NO!
Perhaps, you're where talking about the scrolling lag and that the GeForce GT 650M can't handle the 3840x2160p screen scaled to 2880x1800 display when showing a 1920x1200 HiDPI desktop? (Or any HiDPI scaling?) I looked at it, and I was still very impressed, the scrolling was quite good even when video and pictures were still loading on the page while scrolling at the same time!
I have a Radeon HD 4850 in my 27" iMac and the scrolling hasn't been the best even though my desktop GPU scores 6% higher (on Average G3D Mark) than the mobile GeForce GT 650M. I don't know why, but scrolling seems better on the Retina MacBook Pro than on my 27" iMac, and I only have 3.7 MP (Million Pixels), while the Retina MacBook Pro has 5.2 MP and has to do resolution doubling and scaling too.
(Remember, I saw all this with Core Animation in use on Safari 6, if you're using Safari 5.1.7 on Lion, it won't look as good, perhaps there is as much scrolling lag as I used to see on this 27" iMac.)
CmdrLaForge
macrumors 601
Unfortunately - you might be right. Friend of mine plans just that. He just holds back to check if ML improves the situation. . . We will find out soon...
Swordylove
macrumors 6502a
At first glimpse before scrolling I thought it was iMac news... pfff.
You mean iPhone 4S.
You mean iPhone 4S.
Core Animation in Safari 6 included in Mountain Lion does makes a major improvement. This improvement is noticeable with every Mac I've seen. My 27" iMac lagged a little with scrolling and now it screams. Now I know what others were saying months ago when they say Mountain Lion screams.
The hardware updates of the MacBook Pros have been anywhere from 2 to 10 months later. The June releases and then subsequent updates have been in November 2007 in and April 2010 (following June 2007 and June 2009 respectively). The June 2009 to April 2010 was the longest period before updates. Though the short update was really just an added speed bump.
So hopefully a November 2012 Update with a (much) faster GPU, and speed bump will be out before Christmas! Most speed bumps are 8 months away, but it is the first Ivy Bridge, I'd like to see a speed bump in just 5 months.
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Big Time, and finally no more of that damned Force Reloading of Pages; "White Flash"!
And how does a thermos know when to keep things hot or when to keep things cold?
The world is full of important mysteries!
ScottishDuck
macrumors 6502a
gnasher729
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People hear these terms and they think they know what it means, and then they use them. Without giving it any thought.
LCD display actually have a lag, between 2 and 20 milliseconds, depending on the goals of the manufacturer. And the longer lag doesn't mean lower quality, it is the opposite actually. For example when you display a movie, the LCD with the longer lag will use the time to prepare the display for the switch to the next image, so the next movie frame will be displayed a little bit later, but the change from one to the next frame will be smoother. Gamers usually prefer the shorter lag, but they give up picture quality for better reaction time.
All that said, most people complaining about "lag" don't have a clue what they are talking about. And lag is a noun, not an adjective, so the use "laggy" is totally wrong. People should consider that many people here are not native English speakers, so incorrect use of the language makes it very, very hard for them to understand, and worse, since they may not be secure in their use of the language, it might teach them the wrong use of language.
davidgnomo
macrumors 6502a
Shipping estimates could go back to 2-3 weeks in 3 or 4 days in case Apple does not state something about the hypothetical new iMac 2012 ...
Just for new orders?
Is this just for new orders? My customized Retina Macbook Pro I ordered a couple of weeks ago still says 3-4 weeks and the delivery estimate has not changed.
Thanks
Is this just for new orders? My customized Retina Macbook Pro I ordered a couple of weeks ago still says 3-4 weeks and the delivery estimate has not changed.
Thanks
gnasher729
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NutsNGum
macrumors 68030
Not here it isn't, anytime I've been into a store they have zero and have no idea when they'll be getting them in.
Over here in the Netherlands only the 2.6 GHz version was updated to 1-2 weeks, the 2.3 GHz one is still at 2-3 weeks.
Considering I have a 2.3 GHz one on order, that's slightly disappointing.
Considering I have a 2.3 GHz one on order, that's slightly disappointing.
GenesisST
macrumors 68000
You're just wrong. iPad and iPad (2012) share the same name. The MacBook Pro lines don't have numbers. So iPhone could (not saying will) follow a new iPhone line. iPhone (2012) will be great regardless of naming.