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The hardware updates of the MacBook Pros have been anywhere from 2 to 10 months later. The June releases and then subsequent updates have been in November 2007 in and April 2010 (following June 2007 and June 2009 respectively). The June 2009 to April 2010 was the longest period before updates. Though the short update was really just an added speed bump.

So hopefully a November 2012 Update with a (much) faster GPU, and speed bump will be out before Christmas! Most speed bumps are 8 months away, but it is the first Ivy Bridge, I'd like to see a speed bump in just 5 months.

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Big Time, and finally no more of that damned Force Reloading of Pages; "White Flash"!

Apple does mid cycle hardware revisions on their MacBook pros? Is that why it makes a difference if it is for example an early 2011 MBP or a late 2011 MBP? I've just never noticed them change the specs later after the initial yearly release. Sorry if this is a really dumb question.
 
Love the fact that I ordered the day before they changed to 2-3 weeks. :rolleyes:
 
I ordered my on July 17th with the 2-3 weeks as the original time frame. I wonder now if I will get mine earlier now...
 
1. no upgradeable ram
2. glued battery
3. not enough hd space
4. no ethernet or optical drive

1. Buy now instead of later if you're keeping it awhile
2. Hasn't been user replaceable for years, almost everyone took it into the store anyway
3. Not enough for you, maybe
4. Can dongle the ethernet it but you probably don't need it, almost no one needs an optical drive, not worth making the product thicker and heavier
 
Ugh, ordered mine on July 15th and still seeing the 2-3 week estimate as well (Arrives Aug. 6-10). Hoping it ships sooner than that!

It would make sense that those who ordered earlier would be at the front of the line, so I think we'll be seeing them soon!:D
 
1. no upgradeable ram
2. glued battery
3. not enough hd space
4. no ethernet or optical drive

All of this is linked to money since:

1. You can buy the 16GB BTO option right now instead of waiting for cheaper aftermarket RAM. I don't think any DD3L-1600 8GB SODIMMs are available right now anyway.

2. Apple will still replace it for you for 199$, which it not bad considering it's a 95Wh battery and that a user-replaceable battery like the one in your aluminum MacBook is 45Wh and 129$.

3. 768GB is quite a lot. The maximum storage size you would get with a hard drive is 1TB (30% more). Is it worth the slow performance? (BTW this is funny considering your sig).

4. They're available separately, just buy them if you need them.

In the end, it comes down to "it's too expensive", which is perfectly normal considering it's the highest-end model of a high-end brand. IMO it has a better value than the 17" it replaces, and probably sells a lot more.

If you don't have that kind of money to spend on a computer, simply don't buy it, no one is forcing you to. This is basically a laptop straight from the future, obviously it's going to be too expensive for most. This is like the MacBook Air happening again.
 
MacMall

Picked mine up at MacMall, they have both models in stock and I only had to wait for 2 days for shipping, not 3-4 weeks as the Apple Store quoted at the time.

But in truth, the UI is laggier, than my 2008 blackbook! Especially on the integrated card... blergh. I'm praying to the lord of all that is graphics-cardy, that it will be fixed in software, since I've noticed that certain applications tend to make the lag worse (like safari 6..yes, I'm already running ML GM, and it's not helping!). But it's just soooo slim and light... argh!

If you really want one right away - check out macmall.com
 
Ugh, ordered mine on July 15th and still seeing the 2-3 week estimate as well (Arrives Aug. 6-10). Hoping it ships sooner than that!

It would make sense that those who ordered earlier would be at the front of the line, so I think we'll be seeing them soon!:D

The delivery date for the Mac that you already ordered shouldn't change. Say they had 6,000 ordered, 1,000 new orders per week, and they can deliver 2,000 per week. They need 3 weeks to deliver the ones already ordered, so if you order right now, you'll be next in the line and get yours in 3 weeks time. Every two weeks the backlog goes down by 2,000 and the advertised delivery time goes down by a week. But that doesn't change that the last one of the 6,000 ordered must wait 3 weeks.

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My mistake, the pompousness of your reply had me thoroughly convinced otherwise.

And here I was thinking that I was just using plain straightforward English.
 
And lag is a noun, not an adjective, so the use "laggy" is totally wrong. People should consider that many people here are not native English speakers, so incorrect use of the language makes it very, very hard for them to understand, and worse, since they may not be secure in their use of the language, it might teach them the wrong use of language.

In the interest of full disclosure to our non-English speaking friends, lag isn't always a noun. It can be used as a verb as well.
 
People should consider that many people here are not native English speakers, so incorrect use of the language makes it very, very hard for them to understand, and worse, since they may not be secure in their use of the language, it might teach them the wrong use of language.

your srsly true i right goodly used to then i read internets
 
My guess is that there are a few folks (LOTS) who got over being the first to get the super thin rMBP and realized, they now were stuck with exactly what they got and either returned or decided not to buy...

Issues with the rMBP...

~No option to upgrade in order to extend product life.
Without a $350 warranty its Apple Pricing to get repaired beyond 1 year.
~No option at all after 3YRs (unless you want to pay $1k or $1.5K for a new logic board when your memory goes bad. (soldering the memory has to be the lamest thing about the rMBP).
~No option but Apple pricing to fix a broken glass on the screen. Anyone (or most of us) broken a screen at one point or another?
~The graphics suck on most day to day activities (web browsing)
~The video card struggles to keep up with the resolution, making you wonder how bad that will be in 2 years with the rate of technology growth.
~No built in wired ethernet
~No built in optical drive

The list goes on and on... All to get the "WOW, thats thin" factor. I'll take the 3/16" thicker machine with none of those issues listed and the less likelihood I will have a $3k boat anchor or paper weight in 2-3 years.

my 2cents...
 
no

I was going to get one...
until I realized that spending $2000+ on a machine thats glued together is not the best thing to do.
Sorry Apple.
 
Picked mine up at MacMall, they have both models in stock and I only had to wait for 2 days for shipping, not 3-4 weeks as the Apple Store quoted at the time.

But in truth, the UI is laggier, than my 2008 blackbook! Especially on the integrated card... blergh. I'm praying to the lord of all that is graphics-cardy, that it will be fixed in software, since I've noticed that certain applications tend to make the lag worse (like safari 6..yes, I'm already running ML GM, and it's not helping!). But it's just soooo slim and light... argh!

If you really want one right away - check out macmall.com
UGH... I hate MacMall. Be prepared for the constant upsell phone calls and they will delay your shipment to "validate" your purchase which translates to selling you more stuff before they ship. You are right though, they have them in stock if you can stomach them.
 
How many Apple stocks do you own? I bet you are one of those sheep who get herded around on the bandwagon.

Not really interested in your argument, but your relevance to owning Apple stock means nothing.

Not sure what your reference to 'one of those sheep who get herded around on the bandwagon' - if you're referring to owning a small amount of Apple stock and being subject to market movements, I can pretty much guarantee you, along with everyone on this forum, falls into that category.
 
How many Apple stocks do you own? I bet you are one of those sheep who get herded around on the bandwagon.

Having a vested interest in a company does not make your horrible opinions any more intelligent.
The 4S name being revealed last October made the stock value drop at the time. Apple knows now that the reason for that was people expected an "iPhone 5".
For that reason alone, they are going to drop the number sequence.
Then when you factor in the "new iPad" naming structure you'd have to be mundanely stupid to think otherwise.

The door is that way. You can let yourself out
 
Having a vested interest in a company does not make your horrible opinions any more intelligent.
The 4S name being revealed last October made the stock value drop at the time. Apple knows now that the reason for that was people expected an "iPhone 5".
For that reason alone, they are going to drop the number sequence.
Then when you factor in the "new iPad" naming structure you'd have to be mundanely stupid to think otherwise.

The door is that way. You can let yourself out

Sorry, it was't the name that made the stock price, it was a misalignment between what was expected from the keynote (eg. a new redesign/functionality).

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Back on topic, my expected shipping date has reflected this change.
 
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