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I'm sorry that I'm an Apple fan who dares to criticize Apple especially since it's becoming quite apparent that their profits-first mentality under Cook will ultimately drive the company back to the 90s in terms of quality product output (or lack thereof). While they may have the massive piles of money and the reputation both created by Steve Jobs, he's sadly not able to return this time and fix this increasingly convoluted trainwreck wrought by his successor that he foolishly appointed.

Did you not read a single thing I wrote? You are trying to pass off personal opinion as fact. I don't care one bit if you "dare to criticize" Apple, they don't pay me a darn thing and I don't own any stock, why should I care if you want to? It's just stupid to think that because YOU have an OPINION it then becomes fact because YOU care about it so much. It is still your opinion, nothing more nothing less.
 
A laptop replacement for casual users is an iPad Air , in this case an iPad Air 3.
Mate, the name is just a name... They can call it pro, air, SE, CE, Universe, Creator... Whatever they want. It's just a marketing name.
It could be a professional tool or an entertainment tool. That depends on the user and the software, not the name.
 
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I ordered the iPad Pro 128 GB with pencil to replace my Air. Main reason is my wife has only a MacBook from 2010 and an iPhone 4S. I would say the iPhone is her main computer platform.

The iPad Pro does cost me around 450€ more then the Air 2 because I ordered 128, the pencil and I have to get a new case. So I am really wondering if it is worth it.Main reason is the pencil as I would like to create drawings and use the pencil therefore.
 
Lol what does me having Apple products has anything to do with what I say? Yeah, I do like their products. What I was saying was that certain reviewers will go above and beyond to state the pros about the product, but never mention anything about the cons, which apple products have plenty. That's all.
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iPad 3. And to clarify, I never said Apple releases 'turds', all I was saying was that they could release a pile of sh1it and fanboys will eat it up. Some of you guys get way too defensive over a company that don't give two ****s about you, just your wallet. Take a chill pill and put down the kook aid.



So what is your point about people buying turds? So Apple has some loyal customers? Big deal. All aspirational brands have loyal customers.

But if Apple never releases turds how can you PROVE that Apple fans would still buy TURDS? You are not making any sense.

Apple does not give a crap about us? So why did they stand up against the most powerful government on the face of the earth to protect our security and safety against the FBI? Why is it bad to support companies that in the PAST and PRESENT offer tremendous customer service, quality product and has a proven track record? Why not give such companies the benefit of the doubt?
 
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Apple just want to sell these... for $100 more the spec bumps are good: 4 speakers, pencil compatibility, better chip and still light weight / nice screen. Given my crappy history with iPads though, I'll hold off. I may want one but that's my shiny new Apple gremlin whispering in my ear. It is wiser to hold onto those gift cards for an Apple product I use more extensively.
 
I'm sorry that I'm an Apple fan who dares to criticize Apple especially since it's becoming quite apparent that their profits-first mentality under Cook will ultimately drive the company back to the 90s in terms of quality product output (or lack thereof). While they may have the massive piles of money and the reputation both created by Steve Jobs, he's sadly not able to return this time and fix this increasingly convoluted trainwreck wrought by his successor that he foolishly appointed.
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Half-baked? Running a smartphone interface on a 'pro' tablet sounds more half-baked to me. At least Microsoft knows how to design software, can't say the same about "design god" Jony Ive.
A lot of self proclaimed Apple fan doing nothing else than harshly criticizing Apple on this forum lately...

Yes, the Surface is just an half baked product, trying to do everything and capable of doing nothing properly. Not so good as a tablet, nor as a laptop.
 
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This thing would be great if it had 3 or 4 GB RAM. Glad I have the 12.9". And honestly I don't think I could ever go back to a smaller size now. Split screen, slide over and PIP are all so much more useful on a larger display. I have a feeling we got the 9.7" version now because iPad specific software changes are coming with iOS 10.

I'm curious though, how does one define "Pro"? Is something only "Pro" if it runs x86 apps and has a file system and USB ports? Is there a standard set of features/specs that determines whether a device is "Pro" or not?

Everytime I read one of your posts, I hear a cheesy British accent in my head. :)
 
A lot of people like the changes and I get that. I can't get on board though. To me, all they did was raise the price on the latest iteration iPad. I ended up buying a used iPad Air 2 for $350 after the announcement.

The whole thing about it being a laptop replacement is a joke though.. right?

Pencil... much better camera... 4K video... much better screen technology... 4 speakers...

Yeah, all they did was raise the price.
 
And a completely different hardware....

If you search you could find an iPad Air 64 Gb for $299 out there. And maybe an iPad 4 64 Gb for $149. Still double the storage...

I think the point is, the cost increase normally associated with MORE storage is now associated with LESS storage. Right or wrong, that is what most people see first. Personally, my Air 2 is humming along just fine. Will be awhile before I upgrade, and if this pricing becomes a trend (more for less), I will wait for future releases and buy as the old product is going out the door.
 
Certain professions that don't prioritize specific softwares not available in iOS form can use iPads as laptop/computer replacement. I'm an engineering student, and I know a lot of people in engineering/science field (including med, pharmacy, etc.) Certain aspects of their works CAN be done on tablets. I've noticed gradual increase in almost professional engineering apps (not just from App Store, but also independently designed apps for company uses). But at this point they are more of secondary/assistant tools than main tool.

However, It's true most computers in workplaces are used for word-processing, PDF documents, emails, scheduling, etc. But, like I've said before, getting these tasks done in tablets take more time than on actual computers. Switching between apps is a hassle since there is no "desktop" environment where multiple apps can be opened side-by-side. And the way we interact with the tablet (touch-screen) isn't perfectly optimized for those multi-tasking. Well, at least for us who are used to working on computers. Who knows? Today's kids type their reports, essays, assignments, etc on iPhones/iPod Touches, and when these kids grow up they might prefer working on tablets over actual computers.

For casual users who use their computers for, well, things like browsing, streaming, emails, storing pictures, etc, tablets is an alternative to laptop, not a "replacement." Tablets handle certain things better than laptops while laptops handle certain things better than tablets. It's not perfectly black-and-white. I prefer certain aspects of viewing pictures on tablets (overall interaction, zooming, etc) while I also prefer certain aspects of viewing pictures on computers (picture info, light editing, folder organization, etc).

But most importantly, people have to be willing to re-learn and re-train themselves to use tablets as efficiently as they use their computers. People aren't going to throw away two/three-decades worth of what they are comfortably used to just to switch to tablets unless tablets offer compelling advantages. Yes, tablets are light, compact, offers tons of apps, can have LTE service, etc. But general population hasn't ditched computers for those capabilities, yet.
 
Phil Schiller's a simp. No existing tablet can replace a laptop. None. What Microsh*t is peddling as a laptop replacement IS a laptop: it's a laptop disguised as a tablet.

I love my iPad Air. I have used it every day, seven days a week, since I purchased it in November 2014. I have demoed the iPad Pro extensively. It's wonderful. But don't tell me it can replace my MacBook Pro 15. MS Office is scaled back, Photoshop is scaled back - they are ALL reduced-function apps.

Tablets are great. They serve a function and do it well. But it's a massive disservice to tell consumers that they can replace a laptop without some qualification.
 
Everytime I read one of your posts, I hear a cheesy British accent in my head. :)

They really wanted the 9.7" now they're trying to convince themselves and everyone else that the 12.9" was the right decision.

Personally, I'm gonna love my new 9.7" take anywhere iPP over that 12.9" television screen that is anything but portable.
 
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I think the point is, the cost increase normally associated with MORE storage is now associated with LESS storage. Right or wrong, that is what most people see first. Personally, my Air 2 is humming along just fine. Will be awhile before I upgrade, and if this pricing becomes a trend (more for less), I will wait for future releases and buy as the old product is going out the door.
I'm not happy about Apple price policy in the last 5 years, but you are taking it backwards in this case. They raised the base model from 16 to 32 Gb.

The real problem is pricing OUTSIDE USA ....
 
It just seems like Apple could release a pile of turd with their logo on it and these people will still praise it.
Given that Apple has never done so and likely will never do so, we'll never know.

Apple products tend to work as advertised for most people, most of the time. When they don't, you find out about it on these forums. Some people simply need more than what certain Apple products can provide, and those people should always look beyond the reviews to determine what products fit their workflow.
 
What's so great about the Surface? As far as I'm concerned it's just an inferior laptop with pen support. If the Surface Pro is a true laptop replacement why did Microsoft create the Surface Book?
 
A 5 year old pc can use the full office suite including the pro features and can download a Cognos report from Internet explorer...
Tried that with an iPad, doesn't work...and that's sad...
 
My iPad has replaced my laptop. I haven't booted up my laptop in over 2 years.

Wow. That is very interesting.

What do you use your tablet for? Is storage enough for all your files (pictures, videos, documents, etc)? Or do you store them in the cloud?

Have you encountered any situation where you couldn't find an app for your needs?
 
What's so great about the Surface? As far as I'm concerned it's just an inferior laptop with pen support. If the Surface Pro is a true laptop replacement why did Microsoft create the Surface Book?

The Surface isn't a great product.

The media is simply painting a picture that its an awesome product while it isn't. Money don't lie. Sales don't lie.

Surface had about $1 billion in sales in the holiday quarter despite releasing multiple new models. Including the Surface book which is basically a laptop.

While the 'struggling' and 'dying' iPad had $7 billion in revenue. 700% more than Surface.

Even the so called 'failed' product the Apple Watch blew away Surface sales in the holiday quarter.
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Wow. That is very interesting.

What do you use your tablet for? Is storage enough for all your files (pictures, videos, documents, etc)? Or do you store them in the cloud?

Have you encountered any situation where you couldn't find an app for your needs?

Its basically a travel computer. I have a PC desktop at work. But when I travel or work at home I use my iPad.

I use Word, Excel, email, salesforce, and a few custom business Apps. Also use remote access once in a while if I need to run something on a PC. It works great. So much easier than lugging around a 5 pound laptop that has a 3 hour battery life.
 
Mate, the name is just a name... They can call it pro, air, SE, CE, Universe, Creator... Whatever they want. It's just a marketing name.
It could be a professional tool or an entertainment tool. That depends on the user and the software, not the name.

I know . They added the pro name to get extra £££. It's a very good iPad Air 3.
I'd actually upgrade my iPad Air 2 had it not been for the protruding lens.
 
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