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I never understood why people act like there should be some sort of night and day difference between this year’s iPhone, and the next year’s iPhone. There are some feature differences and upgrades. Every so often there is a big change. This isn’t the year for the big change.
Some of us just want the camera to match Androids - for me the Pixel series specifically which is such a cheap phone yet produces photos that are about 5-7 years ahead of Apple.

The new 48mp sensor was the dream for me as I thought they'd finally at least match them in resolution and quality but it's absolutely no better than the 13 which was no better than the 12 or 11 series and they all suck compared to a Pixel 2.

I was so confident that I pre-ordered and it's going straight back when it arrives today.
 
Yeah I'm out, first year since 4S I havn't upgraded.
Was thinking of going from 13 max to smaller pro, but def not worth going from to a 14 max which I am staying on.
Another $2100 - $1300 selling is $800AUD plus $100 for case & GSP, $900 for what, a pill and a 48 mega pixel camera which will do jack for me. SG is still the best colour too lol.
 
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I’ve seen most of the reviews now (which given that they’re posted before the phone is out means they’re likely apple-positive reviewers) and I have to agree with OP, there are good reviews for sure but a little lukewarm compared to previous years.

Battery life not being quite all that is a common theme, likely due to the AOD. Usually Apple’s stated runtimes are reasonably accurate or even over cautious, but doesn’t seem that way this year.

The camera improvements exist, but aren’t the revolution that they might seem on paper (any notion that 4x the pixels means 4x the photo can be dispensed with).

Certainly for 13 pro or even 12 pro owners this feels like a stepping stone on the way to something better than a solid upgrade across the board.
 
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You might prefer the processing but the camera is objectively worse than a cheap Pixel. It's about 5 years behind.

Hmmm, it's just so hard to know who to believe, some random guy on the Macrumors Forum or professionals whose job is to objectively score these things.

On the one hand, DxOMark has the Pixel 3 (which is four years old) as joint 142nd on camera quality, while the iPhone 13 Pro is joint 6th, above any Pixel (including the latest one which came out after the 13 Pro), but on the OTHER hand, Internet forums poster 'nemofish' tells me that the iPhone is '5 years' behind the Pixel.

I guess we will never know.


edit: now it's 5-7 years! 😂the first pixel came out 6 years ago...
 
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Finally upgrading from my 11 128GB to a 14 Pro Max 256GB, but I was still hesitant to justify the money for how I use my phone. Going to be a night and day difference in many aspects, but like the last couple years, I would ask myself, does my current phone do everything I need fine still, and could I go another year. Staying home due to the pandemic also helped feel like I didn’t need to upgrade.

My last upgrade was a no brainer, 8 Plus to a regular 11. I felt the price was fair considering it had the same chip performance as the pro line, just lacked a few features like an extra camera and oled screen. Plus, at the time, the 11 screen size was a nice middle ground between the Pro and Pro Max.

With the 14 Pro Max, Looking forward to a screen that is bright enough for outdoors, longer battery life, better cameras, emergency services, AOD while I work, oled with brighter SDR, HDR, and 120hz, bigger screen while only being 1.9mm wider to hold, plus the fresh dynamic island.

Will likely pass my 11 to a friend after replacing the battery that is below 80%.

Another thought, if the new phone is meh, or simply not enough to upgrade your current phone, but maybe you wish you had a bigger screen or a new experience, maybe give the iPad Mini 6 a try for a fraction of the cost. For longer sessions at home, it’s very comfortable to hold and enjoy content.
 

Hmmm, it's just so hard to know who to believe, some random guy on the Macrumors Forum or professionals whose job is to objectively score these things.

On the one hand, DxOMark has the Pixel 3 (which is four years old) as joint 142nd on camera quality, while the iPhone 13 Pro is joint 6th, above any Pixel (including the latest one which came out after the 13 Pro), but on the OTHER hand, Internet forums poster 'nemofish' tells me that the iPhone is '5 years' behind the Pixel.

I guess we will never know.
Why do you need a review site to tell you what to think? Just use both phones and compare them side by side. Or if that's not possible, find a reviewer that shows 100% crops or better still, allows full size downloads of their samples.
DXO Mark is scoring cameras based on a whole heap of things, including how the preview looks, stabilisation and video - the latter is obviously where iPhones really shine.

I am a professional photographer and confident that I can rank camera capability better than your average YouTube hero who simply judges the camera based on their own subjective feelings regarding how it's been processed.

This is why so many people, even on here, often disagree. You have half the people are looking at the resolution and detail coming from a phone camera (these people are generally unhappy with iPhones) and the other half who will only ever view their images on a tiny mobile screen who thinks everything is brilliant.

If you look at 2 photos side-by-side on a phone, any camera in the last 10 years will look good. But if I throw up a Pixel photo alongside an iPhone 14 pro on my 4k calibrated monitor; the iPhone is a huge let down and 5 years behind Pixel series.
 
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Why do you need a review site to tell you what to think? Just use both phones and compare them side by side. Or if that's not possible, find a reviewer that shows 100% crops or better still, allows full size downloads of their samples.
DXO Mark is scoring cameras based on a whole heap of things, including how the preview looks, stabilisation and video - the latter is obviously where iPhones really shine.

I am a professional photographer and confident that I can rank camera capability better than your average YouTube hero who simply judges the camera based on their own subjective feelings regarding how it's been processed.

This is why so many people, even on here, often disagree. You have half the people are looking at the resolution and detail coming from a phone camera (these people are generally unhappy with iPhones) and the other half who will only ever view their images on a tiny mobile screen who thinks everything is brilliant.

If you look at 2 photos side-by-side on a phone, any camera in the last 10 years will look good. But if I throw up a Pixel photo alongside an iPhone 14 pro on my 4k calibrated monitor; the iPhone is a huge let down and 5 years behind Pixel series.
It's such a shame DxOMark don't give a separate score for photo and video. Wait,
 
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Some of us just want the camera to match Androids - for me the Pixel series specifically which is such a cheap phone yet produces photos that are about 5-7 years ahead of Apple.

The new 48mp sensor was the dream for me as I thought they'd finally at least match them in resolution and quality but it's absolutely no better than the 13 which was no better than the 12 or 11 series and they all suck compared to a Pixel 2.

I was so confident that I pre-ordered and it's going straight back when it arrives today.
Based off what. All the comparisons to the 13 pro has the 14 or beating it handily. Every comparison against the market Android leader the s22 ultra the 14 pro beats that one as well. You might want to look at the reviews before passing judgement. You are talking non sense, ridiclious actually. A pixel phone 5-7 years ahead of the 14 pro. Hahahah😂 Not hard to look up a review. 🙄

 
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I think that we've moved past the point where you get massive meaningful year on year upgrades such as the 3GS to the 4, the 5S to the 6 - and of course the 7 to the X.

The iPhone is such a mature product that you're better off upgrading 2-3 years, where the feature jump will be significant i.e. someone coming from the 11 pro is going to notice a huge difference.

And if you get Applecare+ you just get a nice little feature bump for your money each year - which is where Apple wants us all to be now (instead of paying for our phones outright), I suspect.
 
Here you go https://www.tomsguide.com/reviews/iphone-14-pro


unlike the rest of the reviews they actually did tests. i swear most of the reviews on the phone is vague and personal which doesn’t offer much to go off of. We needs stats and confirmation of apples claims. Toms guide discovered 2000 nits doesn’t get hit and they found battery life subpar.

gizmodo, tech radar and basically 80 percent of reviewers were sucking up to apple big time.
Ah so if it’s negative it’s a fair review but if it’s positive it’s just sucking up to apple?

You mention Tom’s guide when they praised battery life on the max and called it the best phone with a 5 star review
 

Hmmm, it's just so hard to know who to believe, some random guy on the Macrumors Forum or professionals whose job is to objectively score these things.

On the one hand, DxOMark has the Pixel 3 (which is four years old) as joint 142nd on camera quality, while the iPhone 13 Pro is joint 6th, above any Pixel (including the latest one which came out after the 13 Pro), but on the OTHER hand, Internet forums poster 'nemofish' tells me that the iPhone is '5 years' behind the Pixel.

I guess we will never know.


edit: now it's 5-7 years! 😂the first pixel came out 6 years ago...

My 14 Pro Max arrives in approximately 12 hours and even I think Pixel 6 beats iPhone 14 Pro in many core areas for still photography. Nobody has taken DxOMark seriously for years now, not even the Apple news sites bother posting DxOMark score releases anymore. Like nemo said why do you need an ""authority"" like DxOMark to tell you what to think? Objective scoring for cameras? That's ridiculous, it all comes down to the way images actually look. The 48MP is seemingly doing nothing for regular 12MP HEIC capture. Photonic Engine is the biggest marketing bluff in iPhone history because it seemingly does next to nothing to improve white balance, colors, dynamic range, or low light performance. 14 Pro images look practically identical to 13 Pro images based on what we've seen so far. Again I emphasize how little Apple have bothered to improve color depth and reproduction vs. Pixel.

Last year's Pixel 6 Pro keeps thrashing the 14 Pro in many examples. Look at these photos and tell me which one you honestly prefer:

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iPhone 14 Pro Pixel 6 Pro

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Pixel 6 Pro iPhone 14 Pro
 
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My 14 Pro Max arrives in approximately 12 hours and even I think Pixel 6 beats iPhone 14 Pro in many core areas for still photography. Nobody has taken DxOMark seriously for years now, not even the Apple news sites bother posting DxOMark score releases anymore. Like nemo said why do you need an ""authority"" like DxOMark to tell you what to think? Objective scoring for cameras? That's ridiculous, it all comes down to the way images actually look. The 48MP is seemingly doing nothing for regular 12MP HEIC capture. Photonic Engine is the biggest marketing bluff in iPhone history because it seemingly does next to nothing to improve white balance, colors, dynamic range, or low light performance. 14 Pro images look practically identical to 13 Pro images based on what we've seen so far. Again I emphasize how little Apple have bothered to improve color depth and reproduction vs. Pixel.

Last year's Pixel 6 Pro keeps thrashing the 14 Pro in many examples. Look at these photos and tell me which one you honestly prefer:

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iPhone 14 Pro

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Pixel 6 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro
 
Why do you need a review site to tell you what to think? Just use both phones and compare them side by side. Or if that's not possible, find a reviewer that shows 100% crops or better still, allows full size downloads of their samples.
DXO Mark is scoring cameras based on a whole heap of things, including how the preview looks, stabilisation and video - the latter is obviously where iPhones really shine.

I am a professional photographer and confident that I can rank camera capability better than your average YouTube hero who simply judges the camera based on their own subjective feelings regarding how it's been processed.

This is why so many people, even on here, often disagree. You have half the people are looking at the resolution and detail coming from a phone camera (these people are generally unhappy with iPhones) and the other half who will only ever view their images on a tiny mobile screen who thinks everything is brilliant.

If you look at 2 photos side-by-side on a phone, any camera in the last 10 years will look good. But if I throw up a Pixel photo alongside an iPhone 14 pro on my 4k calibrated monitor; the iPhone is a huge let down and 5 years behind Pixel series.
Iphone might well be behind pixel current flagships but no way are they behind previous pixels from last 5 years. That’s just foolish talk. Even more so for somebody who claims to be a photographer but hey anybody can claim to be what they want on the internet
 
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Based off what. All the comparisons to the 13 pro has the 14 or beating it handily. Every comparison against the market Android leader the s22 ultra the 14 pro beats that one as well. You might want to look at the reviews before passing judgement. You are talking non sense, ridiclious actually. A pixel phone 5-7 years ahead of the 14 pro. Hahahah😂 Not hard to look up a review. 🙄


Pixel 6 still photos are a lot better than the S22 which still oversaturates. Let's wait for more Pixel 6 Pro vs 14 Pro comparisons, better yet Pixel 7 Pro/Ultra vs 14 Pro in less than a month. iPhone does better in some areas, yes, but I find it difficult to believe people are outright denying some of the major visible advantages of Pixel 6's image processing. They are both using approximately the same megapixel count (48MP and 50MP) and outputting 12MP yet Pixel 6 can somehow draw out so much more detail than 14 Pro despite the magical "Photonic Engine"
 
Pixel 6 still photos are a lot better than the S22 which still oversaturates. Let's wait for more Pixel 6 Pro vs 14 Pro comparisons, better yet Pixel 7 Pro/Ultra vs 14 Pro in less than a month. iPhone does better in some areas, yes, but I find it difficult to believe people are outright denying some of the major visible advantages of Pixel 6's image processing. They are both using approximately the same megapixel count (48MP and 50MP) and outputting 12MP yet Pixel 6 can somehow draw out so much more detail than 14 Pro despite the magical "Photonic Engine"
Googles software magic is rather unmatched
 
Iphone might well be behind pixel current flagships but no way are they behind previous pixels from last 5 years. That’s just foolish talk. Even more so for somebody who claims to be a photographer but hey anybody can claim to be what they want on the internet
So what did you get?
 
Some of us just want the camera to match Androids - for me the Pixel series specifically which is such a cheap phone yet produces photos that are about 5-7 years ahead of Apple.

Ummm sure… 5 to 7 years you say huh? That’s interesting.🤔
 
It's such a shame DxOMark don't give a separate score for photo and video. Wait,
You're totally missing the point. It's still encompassing heaps of other variables aside from raw image quality. Hey if you're happy with snapshots for insta, so be it.
 
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Yeah pixel is overly colourful

Ok fair enough, what about here? A scene that has a lot more contrast due to backlit sky. i had to reduce 14 pro file resolution to get imgur to accept upload but there's still enough there to judge colors, contrast and dynamic range:

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iPhone 14 Pro 5 Year Old Pixel 2

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Pixel 6 Pro iPhone 13 Pro
 
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Googles software magic is rather unmatched
It could be the sensor, the lenses, or the software. I suspect a combo of both, but the detail they resolve is more like a camera than a phone.

Open these images on a decent monitor, in 2 separate tabs, and flick between them. The iPhone is lagging behind substantially which is a disappointment considering the new sensor and photo engine.

iPhone 14 Pro
Pixel 6
 
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Iphone might well be behind pixel current flagships but no way are they behind previous pixels from last 5 years. That’s just foolish talk. Even more so for somebody who claims to be a photographer but hey anybody can claim to be what they want on the internet
A somewhat hyperbolic statement I agree, but I honestly look back at some pictures from my Pixel 2 and feel they are often far nicer than any iPhone I've had.

I may get hold of one to test - that would be interesting.
 
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