Wait, he’s a clown because to him it’s the best camera (he DOES know a thing or two about cameras), but doesn’t do a deep dive? So are you like an authority on what people review and how they should review them? Asking for a friend.
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iPhone 14 Pro Reviews are in and the consensus is well meh
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Wait, he’s a clown because to him it’s the best camera (he DOES know a thing or two about cameras), but doesn’t do a deep dive? So are you like an authority on what people review and how they should review them? Asking for a friend.
Meh, who cares what the reviewers say. My iPhone 12 Pro is ready for an update and the jump from a 12 feels good enough.
Not to mention getting an $800 credit so it’s really not costing me much to upgrade.
Stop allowing the reviewers to make decisions for you. Decide for yourself if it’s good enough for you or it’s not.
Not to mention getting an $800 credit so it’s really not costing me much to upgrade.
Stop allowing the reviewers to make decisions for you. Decide for yourself if it’s good enough for you or it’s not.
100% should have been an S upgrade. Why they removed the S versions is beyond me, I know they want our money but it's just so outlandish and obvious every year now how little is changing. Bring back the S (or an equivalent labelling system) because you're not fooling anyone. Also bring back the iPhone 4 design, thanks. 😂
I never understood why people act like there should be some sort of night and day difference between this year’s iPhone, and the next year’s iPhone. There are some feature differences and upgrades. Every so often there is a big change. This isn’t the year for the big change.
It’s kind of like if you have a 2022 Toyota Corolla and traded it in for a 2023 Toyota Corolla then complained because it’s not this major improvement. It’s not going to be. Now if you’re trading in a 2019 Toyota Corolla, then there’s going to be some bigger differences. Wow there’s a lot of technods on here like myself who are trading in the 13 for the 14 that’s not the majority of people. Most people I know are trading in an 11 or older model. Wow, I don’t have any kind of survey to say that’s that’s going on for everyone, I suspect it is because most people don’t buy an iPhone every year.
It’s kind of like if you have a 2022 Toyota Corolla and traded it in for a 2023 Toyota Corolla then complained because it’s not this major improvement. It’s not going to be. Now if you’re trading in a 2019 Toyota Corolla, then there’s going to be some bigger differences. Wow there’s a lot of technods on here like myself who are trading in the 13 for the 14 that’s not the majority of people. Most people I know are trading in an 11 or older model. Wow, I don’t have any kind of survey to say that’s that’s going on for everyone, I suspect it is because most people don’t buy an iPhone every year.
Can we have some more exciting colours for the normal base lineup? It's just so pathetic now, the last cool colours were on the XR's and iPhone 11. It's like someone coughed up the most pale, pathetic colours and nobody reviewed it. Let's all give the pastel losers what they want.
Most people use a case. You can make your case any color or pattern you want. I can’t think of it offhand but there’s a case company that sells them online where you can add custom text or photos and it’s not crazy expensive.
The problem with colors is everyone wants something different. What you think looks terrible others think looks awesome and vice versa. Perhaps in the future, I can see Apple creating custom color orders where you go on the website and pick a shade but I think that would be expensive.
I doubt it would be "meh" if I decided to upgrade from 11 to 14 Pro Max. Maybe give it a few years in between new phones and you'll see greater benefits.
So true! That's why on their premium ones they go with the most popular and generally loved colours.
I would absolutely LOVE a custom colour option, I'd even pay a premium on top of the price and wait longer for it. Don't see why you couldn't do that one day when they have used so many colours in the past before to choose from and know what they need to do.
Tbh I'd even settle for a new iPhone XR 2.0 over my 11 pro max now, just want a smaller sized phone with a fun colour but don't want to downgrade to the old XR or base 11.
I think you’re correct about this. I went with the silver and white but I know a lot of people will cringe about that. I remember the days of the classic iPhone and it’s the closest thing I can get now.
I think it is easily doable, but it would add considerable time to the production thus considerable cost. Things are affordable because we can make them on the production line very quickly. This would require someone to take it off the production line and set it up just for that purpose. If you ever have custom machining done, a lot of the expense is set up cost. I hate to say it but I suspect this would more than double the cost of the iPhone. If Apple sold it at that price, it would be a bad look for them because people would say all they’re just trying to gouge people who want something custom. Some might argue well why doesn’t Apple just take a hit on the profit but I think the amount of people picking custom colors even if they put a $300 premium would be significant and Apple will take bad losses on this. Maybe in the future something like this could be done on the production line or maybe we just the proper machines to do it. I think it will happen sooner or later.
I’m confused about what you mean by this. What was in iPhone XR 2.0 be? Wouldn’t that basically be an iPhone 14 non Pro? At the time it was the non pro version of the iPhone X. That was a weird year because the pro phone was smaller and they didn’t have a max size phone. That’s at least if I remember right and apologies if I’m getting my iPhone models mixed up.
My "meh" is for on-line reviews. I never really cared a wit about them, preferring to try a product and judge for myself. Ordered a 14 PM, upgrade from 12 PM.
I just mean the XR in terms of the colour options. There are rumours they're going to make a new SE version with the XR body and I'm hoping they have nice colours like the XR did.
I am upgrading a 12PM to a 14PM. The only time I went 3 years was X to 12PM which was tough because the X was only available in the smaller size and the 3rd year the battery was a struggle.
However Apple has had a design change every two years and the 14 series is a 3rd year of the 12 and 12 design with the exception of the notch to island. I will say that the flat sides are better and I personally don’t want them to flop back to curved. Not sure outside of a folding what other innovations there are to the form factor and case. But a lot of people are right that the tech is so mature there aren’t a ton of differentiating innovations left short of folding and complete under glass cameras/sensors. Even the latter of those won’t change the form.
Part of the reason I upgraded was because I expect the 15 to go USB C and I kind of like the idea of having the last year of lightning for 2-3, maybe even 4 years. My next phone after this might likely be a folding iPhone when that finally arrives.
I’m upgrading to the 14PMax 256GB from a very worn iPhone 11 64gb. It’s going to be quite the upgrade for me, but yeah for 13PM users or even for 12PM users it’s going to be a small improvement. But hey, if they’ve got the cash to spare and this makes them happy.. then why not.
Absolutely he is awesome and isn’t afraid to criticize if it’s warranted.
Love his first tip of cropping - I’m always yelling “why wouldn’t you crop” when scrolling photos on FB or Instagram … granted I have 20+ years of photography experience but it’s such an easy step to improve almost any photo.
Oh okay. When I think of iPhones with color options I think iPhone 5C. It was supposed to be a fun and affordable phone but I don’t think it did well.
Wait you mean it’s possible to review a phone without being a YouTube influencer? Just kidding 😂
My review starts on the 16th
Apple doesn't make this year's phones with last year's buyers in mind. And Apple has also shifted to a 3 year design cycle so this is pretty much what we all should have expected. Anyone coming from a 12 series or earlier will have A LOT to be excited about with the 14 Pro.
Personally, I'm less concerned about a lack of incremental features and more concerned about a lack of incremental fixes, particularly with the cameras.
Tom's Hardware's review, MKBHD's review, and the Verge's review covers most of these:
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, darker skin tones are still significantly overexposed.
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, blue / white "orbs" of reflections still exist in low-light video recordings.
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, the "3x telephoto" is seemingly still sometimes a crop of the 1x wide (and is always a crop at 2x).
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, all the lenses still incorrectly bias to a warmer white balance than in reality.
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, colors are still crushed in low-light photography.
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, lit areas are still sometimes overexposed in low-light photography.
- In the iPhone 14 Pro, strands of hair are still incorrectly clipped / removed in Portrait Mode.
I'd consider upgrading if this Photonic Engine actually had significantly increased across-the-board polish. I guess better to wait for Photonic Engine V2, if these issues concern you.
I have a 14 pro max on order to replace my 13 pro max, I waited for Austin Manns review, he is usually really impressed but not so much this year:
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iPhone 14 Pro Camera Review: Scotland — Travel Photographer - Austin Mann
Hi from Scotland! We’re here on the beautiful Dunton Kilchoan Estate in the Scottish Highlands with the iPhone 14 Pro cameras — we’ve been hiking, biking, and boating all around the area, pushing these new cameras to the limit. The features that really caught my eye during Apple’s keynote were t
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It seems like maybe ALL of that is coming from the Verge's review, which is a single source.
Tom's Hardware may have noted some slight edges where the 14 Pro beats the Pixel 6 and vice versa, but without any sense of a really calling it a failure in anyway. In fact:
"Overall, the iPhone 14 Pro cameras are incredible. I think the Photonic Engine goes a bit overboard sometimes, particularly in the ultrawide shots. But the Night mode outside amazed me, even if it fell flat indoors. The selfies are the best I’ve ever seen from front-facing cameras, smashing what the Pixel 6 Pro could do.
Google has some catching up to do with the Pixel 7 Pro, as Apple has inched ahead of Google in the battle for the best camera phone."
On top of that MKBHD said that he found minor flaws in comparing but still considers the 14 Pro the best smartphone camera. "The most complete camera" and "of all the smartphones for $1000 it has the best camera of the bunch"
And while the Verge did nitpick a bit more, they also said:
"Overall, the iPhone has been the top contender for smartphone video for years, and the 14 Pro maintains that lead."
Now there may be no doubt that those items you mentioned are issues, for some at least. However, they may not be things that Apple has chosen to or can address yet, or that in "fixing" them, they might have to make other concessions. I don't know and I don't really care. I do know that those reviews didn't really make those points.