Good-news scenes for a change... the community coming together and helping in the clean up - down in Clapham Junction.
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Riots in the UK
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Interestingly clegg called it a few years back, saying that if a conservative government got in any which way that there would be riots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YItK1izQIwo&feature=player_embedded
I imagine he will be deeply regretting what he said there in the coming days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YItK1izQIwo&feature=player_embedded
I imagine he will be deeply regretting what he said there in the coming days.
Same thing happened with the "flash rob" in Vancouver, after the Stanley Cup loss.
People, unlike politicians, are capable of being galvanized into action.
But what of the rioters? Won't this action make them feel bad about themselves?
I went to London many times, and stayed there for 2 weeks. One of the best places to live and work, but not right now...
Riot shields used as trays? Who'd have thought?
We're seeing today some positive images of the various communities rallying round to help those who have been affected by the events of the past few nights, it's good to see and deserves more coverage.
We're seeing today some positive images of the various communities rallying round to help those who have been affected by the events of the past few nights, it's good to see and deserves more coverage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-14462693
First fatality.
Absolute monsters, time to crack down a little tougher.
First fatality.
Absolute monsters, time to crack down a little tougher.
Or more accurately, the first that we know of.
With the number of buildings that have been torched over the past few nights including shops with floors of flats above them there may very well be bodies waiting to be discovered, I'm afraid.
According to the BBC news this morning they were not sure if it was to do with the riots, then 10 minutes later on the radio they said it was do to with the riots. So I am a little dubious in that 10 minutes they managed to confirm it was related.
Not good either way though.
The Met Police are putting images up of looters on their flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metropolitanpolice/
It really is a shame that the original Riot Act was repealed in 1973. It had a number of provisions that would seem to have been a good idea:
We now only have the Riot provisions of the Public Order Act (1986). Somewhat ridiculously the maximum sentence for Riot is 10 years. So even if they were all caught, charged and convicted they'd probably be free in 5 years or less.
Even worse if they are charged with Riot the Met Police will end up being liable for damages to the various properties they failed to protect!
Some of those images are very clear with the looters not wearing anything to cover their faces! Should be very easy to identify and charge.
We now only have the Riot provisions of the Public Order Act (1986). Somewhat ridiculously the maximum sentence for Riot is 10 years. So even if they were all caught, charged and convicted they'd probably be free in 5 years or less.
Even worse if they are charged with Riot the Met Police will end up being liable for damages to the various properties they failed to protect!
Some of those images are very clear with the looters not wearing anything to cover their faces! Should be very easy to identify and charge.
^I fear tonight we will have groups of people defending and groups rioting.
Reading around it seems like it is heading my way later today/shortly.
Thankfully I live a little bit away from the electronic shops that they seemingly want to go after.
Reading around it seems like it is heading my way later today/shortly.
Thankfully I live a little bit away from the electronic shops that they seemingly want to go after.
People like Peter Tatchell are calling for non-violent massing of people to dissuade rioters. I think he has a good point.
Where abouts are you, xUKHCx?
No biscuits either. Shameful.Semi-skimmed?
Still, it goes to show – while some nations would call for implementing martial law, arming citizens or authorising the Police to use greater force to restore order, we Englandshirers stick the kettle on and make a nice cup of tea.
The Emergency Services (as well as the rest of London) should be going to parliament to really give them their thoughts on the handling of this situation. The government has failed to protect their people. They failed to protect the police officers being sparsely sent out. Sending the Army for public order is not the 'death knell' that some believe it to be.
I feel disgusted at the way both the looters have behaved and at the government's actions. @peterkro, I don't know if Anarchy could work, the problem is the human trait of greed which works it's way into any society or political ideal.
I feel disgusted at the way both the looters have behaved and at the government's actions. @peterkro, I don't know if Anarchy could work, the problem is the human trait of greed which works it's way into any society or political ideal.
They did. The cabinet and security forces met this morning.
The spread of incidents was surprising and unprecedented. Police numbers tonight will be up from less than 7000 to over 16000. Baton rounds/plastic bullets are authorised for use. The army is not required.
I would expect policing to be a lot more effective today/tonight. I suspect that the police may have been 'holding back' and waiting for political decisions regarding the use of force. They now have that.
Had a call from the parents - not to ask where I was last night; they'd gone into their local town with the grandchildren and noticed an increasing police presence and the shops closing. My niece with the Rioters Choice - BlackBerry - has informed us that the town is being talked about as a target for tonight. Location = edge of Greater London, just west of Croydon. Joy.
Cheers,
OW
Cheers,
OW
^^^ OW, I heard there was some disturbance in Bromley last night. Can't be a million miles from your folks.
Meanwhile, back in Clapham Junction:
Be afraid!
(Courtesy of http://twitpic.com/photos/TimMontgomerie)
Meanwhile, back in Clapham Junction:
Be afraid!
(Courtesy of http://twitpic.com/photos/TimMontgomerie)