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Cougarcat,
I'm not sure if your comment is designed to be controversial, or just to provoke an emotional response, but I'm not going to respond in kind. I will respond to say that I do buy Macs for gaming. I also buy Macs for 3D modeling in Blender, photo editing in Gimp, streaming video on Youtube, Twitch and Netflix, web surfing, etc, etc, etc. But, if you look at my post history here on Mac Rumors, the vast majority of my contributions here are gaming and Mac related. It's something that I'm more than a little into.

There are only a few of the posters here who also post on the Inside Mac Games forums, so not everyone here knows that I post quite a bit there as well. I am Mac user from waaaaay back, and I love to game on my Macs.

I don’t believe there was any intent to be inflammatory. Many a Mac user buys their machine for a primary use case, be that creative works, development, or simple office/home use and then play games on the side. There are comparatively few who are hardcore Mac gamers first and foremost - I would have been once but I guess I’m a developer first and gamer second these days when it comes to purchasing decisions...

I read Cougarcat’s post as a generalisation of all that and I agree with the last implication - it would be nice if more Macs were suitable for AAA gaming ;)

Yes, that’s essentially what I meant. Nobody buys a Mac *solely* as a gaming machine. We are all attracted to the Mac for other reasons first.

(I also post at IMG—I’m Cougar over there.)
 
Yes, that’s essentially what I meant. Nobody buys a Mac *solely* as a gaming machine. We are all attracted to the Mac for other reasons first.

(I also post at IMG—I’m Cougar over there.)


(I know, that's why I included my reference to other forums in which I post, where they are related to Macs and gaming) :)

I also still disagree with your clarification above - I solely bought my 2012 iMac with the thought that it was high time I had a computer onto which I could install Steam and play modern Mac games.

When I upgrade to my next one, my choices will be gleefully guided by newer developments in Metal 2, plug-and-play eGPUs in macOS, more AAA titles - not only being made available on the Mac - but optimized for the Mac. There's never been a more exciting time to be a Mac gamer. :)

ETA: As you know, since you post and read over at IMG, I recently installed a Bootcamp partition so that I could play games that aren't available on the Mac - Doom 2016, and Wolfenstein TNO mainly.
 
They recommend a GTX 980 Ti. At the current rate of progress of mac hardware, mac's should be able run it sometime around Christmas 2057.

And just in case someone is going to mention the iMac pro and it's Vega 56 GPU, that's not the greatest for gaming to start, and no company is going to do a mac port based on the availability of $5000+ office machines.

No need iMac Pro. Even though I agree that none of the 2017 Mac can do that, but a 2009 Mac Pro can handle it easily by just a fraction of the iMac Pro's cost.
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My Mac can easily render RoTR at max setting stably above 60FPS @3840x1080.
 
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Steam had a deal a couple of weeks ago for the windows version. Held off in the hopes we will have one for the Mac by end of year. Next "deal" i'm just going to by the Windows version, planning on Bootcamp soon anyways.

Hate waiting this long.
 
https://9to5mac.com/2018/02/13/tomb-raider-mac-macos/

Feral Interactive has announced that Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration, ‘the definitive edition of the acclaimed action-adventure,’ will be coming to macOS and Linux this spring.

The company says all the downloadable content will be bundled with the game, which includes both action and puzzle-solving …

Players will become the young archaeologist Lara Croft as she seeks the lost city of Kitezh to recover the Divine Source, an ancient artifact with the power to grant immortality. When Lara’s quest puts her in the crosshairs of Trinity, a secret global organization, she must use all her wits and daring to reach the Divine Source first.

Lara’s expedition takes her from Syria’s sun-baked ruins to the vast wilderness of Siberia, where frozen forests, ancient crypts, a lush geothermal valley, and an abandoned Soviet military installation await. Players climb, swim, grapple, and zip-line their way through the beautiful but lethal environments as they outsmart deadly traps and solve huge, multi-layered puzzles hidden within stunning challenge tombs.

No details on exact timing, pricing or system requirements have yet been revealed.
 
On Steam, pricing will be the same as the Windows version. I expect system requirements to also be similar.
 
https://9to5mac.com/2018/02/13/tomb-raider-mac-macos/

Feral Interactive has announced that Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 Year Celebration, ‘the definitive edition of the acclaimed action-adventure,’ will be coming to macOS and Linux this spring.

The company says all the downloadable content will be bundled with the game, which includes both action and puzzle-solving …

Players will become the young archaeologist Lara Croft as she seeks the lost city of Kitezh to recover the Divine Source, an ancient artifact with the power to grant immortality. When Lara’s quest puts her in the crosshairs of Trinity, a secret global organization, she must use all her wits and daring to reach the Divine Source first.

Lara’s expedition takes her from Syria’s sun-baked ruins to the vast wilderness of Siberia, where frozen forests, ancient crypts, a lush geothermal valley, and an abandoned Soviet military installation await. Players climb, swim, grapple, and zip-line their way through the beautiful but lethal environments as they outsmart deadly traps and solve huge, multi-layered puzzles hidden within stunning challenge tombs.

No details on exact timing, pricing or system requirements have yet been revealed.

This is great news! But I'm worried that this might be exclusive to Sierra users if Mafia 3 only required that if I'm correct. I really don't want to upgrade my OS. (I have a late 2014 5k iMac)
 
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You can be sure that this game will require HIGH Sierra, not Sierra.
And I suspect that nVidia cards won't be supported.
 
You can be sure that this game will require HIGH Sierra, not Sierra.
And I suspect that nVidia cards won't be supported.

As long as the game is ported by Feral. The game most likely can work fine with Nvidia card (even though not supported). I only play few games in MacOS now. Some of them only support AMD card, they may display the “not supported” warning when starting the game. But so far, all works well.
 
They're unlikely to list something as not supported unless they absolutely have to, so even if you're finding that things work without issue for youthat doesn't mean Feral didn't experience game-breaking issues during testing.

Mafia 3 (albeit from Aspyr) is AMD-only and it crashes and burns on my 2013 780M GTX iMac quite consistently.
 
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They're unlikely to list something as not supported unless they absolutely have to, so even if you're finding that things work without issue for youthat doesn't mean Feral didn't experience game-breaking issues during testing.

Mafia 3 (albeit from Aspyr) is AMD-only and it crashes and burns on my 2013 780M GTX iMac quite consistently.

There is no current Mac running Nvidia GPU. I won't be surprised if they never test the game with any Nvidia GPU. As long as they didn't do the test properly. It's not supported. Of course, as you said, it can also mean that they tested it, but hit a bug that they can't fix it. However, there is a chance that "not supported" doesn't mean "it won't work".

e.g. Dying Light. It clearly says only AMD GPUs are supported.
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But I can actually play this game with my Nvidia GPU flawlessly, and the graphic is very good indeed.
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But I don't have Mafia 3, so can't test it if Nvidia GPU will cause crash.
 
As long as the game is ported by Feral. The game most likely can work fine with Nvidia card (even though not supported). I only play few games in MacOS now. Some of them only support AMD card, they may display the “not supported” warning when starting the game. But so far, all works well.

So, I'm in the same boat as you (having an nVidia gpu in my Mac), and am very interested in knowing if two new Metal games will play on my Mac despite me not having an AMD GPU: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Rise of the Tomb Raider. Both are on a sweet Steam sale right now (DEMD for $7.50 and ROTTR for $19.79)
 
So, I'm in the same boat as you (having an nVidia gpu in my Mac), and am very interested in knowing if two new Metal games will play on my Mac despite me not having an AMD GPU: Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and Rise of the Tomb Raider. Both are on a sweet Steam sale right now (DEMD for $7.50 and ROTTR for $19.79)

If you can boot to Windows, IMO, worth to try. As long as you buy it on Steam, you can play it in both Windows and macOS. So, nothing really have to worry about (if you can boot to Windows).

I didn't really check the refund policy. But from memory, you can request for a full refund within 14 days if the computer is incompatible. So, you can actually buy DEMD now, and ask for refund if it can't work (in macOS).

For RoTR, 67% OFF is good, but not that extreme. It's not the 1st time have this amount of discount, and I expect it may even cheaper later. If you have not plan to play it in Windows. I will say no rush, wait until the Mac version available, then wait for discount.
 
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If you can boot to Windows, IMO, worth to try. As long as you buy it on Steam, you can play it in both Windows and macOS. So, nothing really have to worry about (if you can boot to Windows).

I didn't really check the refund policy. But from memory, you can request for a full refund within 14 days if the computer is incompatible. So, you can actually buy DEMD now, and ask for refund if it can't work (in macOS).

For RoTR, 67% OFF is good, but not that extreme. It's not the 1st time have this amount of discount, and I expect it may even cheaper later. If you have not plan to play it in Windows. I will say no rush, wait until the Mac version available, then wait for discount.


Good advice. I do have a Bootcamp partition set up on my iMac. As far as Steam's refund process goes, I have used it once. I bought Alien:Isolation, hoping to try it out (knowing that my Mac was well below the system requirements), but it shut me out cold, not even letting me get to the boot screen. All it did was display a pop-up message saying something to the effect that my Mac doesn't meet the minimum requirements for the game.

The actual refund part was painless and easy.

Also, you've got me thinking about giving "Dying Light" a go.
 
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Just got this game (macOS version), it actually runs quite well on my Mac. Here are the benchmark results.

1080P, all max settings, SSAA 4x, V-sync OFF
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I post the 1080P result, which is easier for others to compare. But I actually ran the game at 3840x1080. The graphics is pretty good indeed.
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Has anyone tried running the game in Mavericks ?
Steam's website says it requires 10.13.4 minimum, while other sources say it will run on 10.9.x .
 
Has anyone tried running the game in Mavericks ?
Steam's website says it requires 10.13.4 minimum, while other sources say it will run on 10.9.x .
It can't run on Mavericks. The game requires a technology that Mavericks doesn't have.
I'd like to see these sources you mention.
 
Thanks for the replies .
The sources were random tech and gaming sites that came up in my Google search , mostly older information .
 
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