rMBP display very yellow

[skydesigner]

So, I got my replacement for my unit with an LG (that had the lower-left yellow corner).

It's a Samsung.

Overall white point is markedly improved. HOWEVER, even this display has a darker left corner. I would say that on this panel, it doesn't look so much "yellow" as it does "dingy" or slightly dirty. Of course, the surface of the display is perfectly clean.

Ugh. I'm tried of playing this game, and I don't understand why it's so hard for panel manufacturers to produce panels that are relatively free of these kinds of defects.


Wow, what crawled up your butt and died? Of course it's an amateur opinion...I never presented it as anything but. It is an opinion, however, supported by experience and the anecdotal evidence of others. This isn't my first time in the Apple display rodeo...


My issue matches yours exactly, as well as that of poster Davieis from this thread.

On this new Samsung panel, some colors are more obviously affected by the different brightness/white point of the left side of the screen. White is one, but I think it is more obvious on, say, a Facebook profile Timeline page...that blue-grey color looks greyish-yellowish on the left side and much more blue on the right.

I'm honestly not sure what I plan to do at this point. I could return it and just call the whole thing off. I could keep replacing it until I get an acceptable screen, but I'm losing confidence that this will ever happen. Or I could hold onto it, hope that the issue is sorted in a few months, and then send my computer in to have the screen swapped.

-- Nathan

Thank you for your post. I´ve returned mine for a refund. I won´t order a new one, because it seems all of the displays do have issues. Maybe I´ll wait another month or two and see if things change.... it´s a bummer. But for the money I do expect a better unit.

 

[miralize]

I thought I gad the perfect device, turns out, its yellow in comparison to me new TB display. I've already organised a new replacement to be sent to me. Am I expecting too much here or do I have a right to get this sorted?

 

[jediDev]

If you get yellow display, try changing white point in calibration

I got a new rMBP to replace one with the ghosting issue and straight away I noticed the screen was very yellow. I compared it with another rMBP and the issue was very clear. I decided to try calibrating the display, and it turns out that if you turn on expert mode and click continue until you get to the white point screen, you can change the white point—and it makes the issue disappear. I'm saying this not as a photographer or anything; it's possible there are still some color issues if you are trying to match output. But from the standpoint of using it for text/coding/etc it looks great.

One other thing: I've now spent time with several rMBP units, some in the store. They've all had to some degree or another slight color uniformity issues. I thin some of it might be inconsistencies in the panels, and some of it might be that the viewing angle isn't quite as good on retina displays as it is on thunderbolt/iMac. Bottom-line: it's not quite perfect yet.

That being said, it's world's better than the old non-IPS display. I hope they continue to refine and make the displays better; they definitely have some work to do before they are "perfect" — but they really are good. And my advice is to not stress too much about it the small imperfections. If it's something major, by all means, get it replaced. But if you are basically happy with your display and there's just a small region that doesn't quite feel right, you're probably better off sticking with it than swapping the display out for another.

That being said, for the price that these machines cost, you're entitled to do whatever you damn please.

 

[klover]

Just unboxed my hour-old rMBP and the bottom half is piss yellow and the top half is blue-white. It was immediately noticeable during the setup process. Returning it shortly.

LG panel. First panel was a Samsung and it was brighter, higher contrast and pure white. Unfortunately the chassis had damage and scratches.

 

[jediDev]

I thought I gad the perfect device, turns out, its yellow in comparison to me new TB display. I've already organised a new replacement to be sent to me. Am I expecting too much here or do I have a right to get this sorted?

I bet it's a Samsung. Amirite?

Try changing the white point in the expert mode for color calibration. Don't change anything but the white point. It did wonders for me. Took a display from IMO being piss ugly (literally) to being really nice.

I think Apple would be very smart to set the white point in the factory individually for each display, and then to include that in the box.

 

[Stack]

Just finally got around to do some more testing on my 2nd rMBP. First one was LG with a yellow tint I returned.

Just got my second one today. Came with a LG display. Still has a yellow tint and this one has a red hue bleeding on the top right when I put it on a black screen.

I also noticed about 10 dead stuck/dead pixels on the bottom right as well as about 5 on the bottom left.

Tried using flexcode LCD repair to massage them out but they are stuck and will not change.

Guess this one is going back for sure now.

 

[bbasra]

My new replacement rMBP has arrived and i must say its much better than my previous one. This one has a Samsung Panel. Not sure which panel was in my first one.

I thought this one looked white until i compared my iphone 4 screen and rmpb on full brightness and opened google.co.uk. The iphone is brighter, crisp white and my rmbp is still yellow or should i say a warmer display.

Is your RMBP white as your iphone?

 

[kfscoll]

Why would anyone use their iPad or iPhone as a reference white point? Considering the fact that almost every consumer-grade display is too blue (compared to a D65 reference), what makes anyone think that something like an iPad or iPhone could really be accurate? Most people are used to seeing displays that are too blue, but when they're presented with an accurate rMBP display, they think it's too yellow or too warm and therefore defective.

My rMBP arrived with what I thought was a general yellow tint, but then I measured it with a colorimeter, and its native white point was almost exactly 6500K. It turns out my other displays were the ones that needed to be calibrated.

Of course, there are defective displays out there, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of bellyaching over yellow displays is by folks who aren't used to looking at a display with a true 6500K white point.

This thread has devolved into pure lunacy. I'm out.

 

[thekev]

Of course, there are defective displays out there, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of bellyaching over yellow displays is by folks who aren't used to looking at a display with a true 6500K white point.

This thread has devolved into pure lunacy. I'm out.

I'd say the same thing. Comparing one consumer device to another as evidence that one is off is just so silly as your eyes become accustomed to whatever you're viewing. You wouldn't know the intended specs of either, and you're lacking a calibrated reference grade device for comparison. Even with the digital camera shots, it's important to note the settings that were used. I can make a digital camera photo look quite different by adjusting white balance. If two displays are different and I white balance one to look reasonably neutral, the other will automatically look off. Beyond that if you're used to something that looks really cold, it makes something which is arguably more neutral look warm. 6500k (which is really a range of colors but we're talking about the measured white) is really much closer to the appearance of afternoon outdoor lighting. Some of the prior versions were really closer to 8000k native which is why you see almost no displays that are designed for color critical use manufactured with LED backlighting. The thunderbolt display isn't really designed for this. It's just leveraged by some people.

My new replacement rMBP has arrived and i must say its much better than my previous one. This one has a Samsung Panel. Not sure which panel was in my first one.

I thought this one looked white until i compared my iphone 4 screen and rmpb on full brightness and opened google.co.uk. The iphone is brighter, crisp white and my rmbp is still yellow or should i say a warmer display.

Is your RMBP white as your iphone?

The iphone may be brighter, but they don't necessarily have the same target specs. This means you can't say one must look like the other. If you buy a second iphone, it may not match the first even if both are considered within spec. If you really don't know anything about how colors are measured and simply expect every product to match perfectly, you might as well return that device now. Even with equipment that costs way more than what you would purchase from Apple, there is always some amount of variation. You can adjust things to correlate to a degree. Some systems have software/hardware systems meant for matching a number of displays. This means that the brightness and gamut are addressed only in terms of values that are attainable across all devices within a certain allowable deviation. Your phone will never be guaranteed to match your notebook in color, contrast, gamma, gamut, brightness, or any other characteristic, and neither is a suitable measurement for the other. Your requests are just totally unreasonable here and if it doesn't make you happy, you should just return it, not test drive a dozen units.

Also dirt under the display, dead pixels, noticeable backlight bleed, etc. are real problems. Those are the kinds of things that warrant an exchange, not trying to win the panel lottery.

 

[mzjin]

My new replacement rMBP has arrived and i must say its much better than my previous one. This one has a Samsung Panel. Not sure which panel was in my first one.

I thought this one looked white until i compared my iphone 4 screen and rmpb on full brightness and opened google.co.uk. The iphone is brighter, crisp white and my rmbp is still yellow or should i say a warmer display.

Is your RMBP white as your iphone?

The iPhone 4 is incapable of full color gamut, in fact, it is AWFULLY cool and shoots blue through the roof. Of course, this can be perceived as higher white, but it's very unnatural and inaccurate white.