Rogers and BCE Already Have the Apple iTV in Their Labs, Controlled with Voice and Hand Gestures

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  1. SandboxGeneral Moderator emeritus


    Sep 8, 2010
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    I'm certainly interested to know how they accomplish an on screen keyboard without a physical interface. Air-keyboard, like the air guitar?

    Regardless, it will be neat to see an iTV (or whatever) be released. My only concern is the cable providers archaic business models and cut-throat tactics.

    I'm waiting for the hammer to drop on people like me who subscribe to their Internet services only and not television. I pipe all my TV content in via their pipe with my ATV2.

    Eventually, I think they'll come around and try to force our hand into their TV service and throttle the Internet service somehow.
  2. JohnDoe98 macrumors 68020

    May 1, 2009
    I have a hard time believing that! What isp gives 250mbps?
  3. AppleScruff1 macrumors G3


    Feb 10, 2011
    I can't wait to try it with interactive 3D porn.
  4. sbrhwkp3 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 17, 2005
    Lake George, NY
    These TVs are in FAR more labs than just Rogers. The only reason we're only hearing about Rogers right now is because of what a terribly run company they are.

    They'll probably lose their shot at offering the Apple TV if they're at fault for this information leak.
  5. AppleScruff1 macrumors G3


    Feb 10, 2011
    Because LTD is in Canada.
  6. damir00 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 30, 2011
    Shaw. $115/month, with 1TB cap.

    I'm on a 25mbps plan - 400GB cap - $50/month including phone and basic cable (don't even have the cable plugged in).
  7. Mr Fusion, Feb 6, 2012
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    Mr Fusion macrumors 6502a

    Mr Fusion

    May 7, 2007
    ****in' ripoff.

    EDIT: Read that wrong, HOLY CRAP THAT'S FAST!!! :eek:
  8. JohnDoe98 macrumors 68020

    May 1, 2009
  9. Peace macrumors Core


    Apr 1, 2005
    Space--The ONLY Frontier
    Comcast does.

    Not sure about cable providers in Canada.
  10. Friscohoya macrumors 6502a


    Jun 16, 2009
    My guess is that...

    ...there is misinformation in this rumor and somebody is going to lose their job over this one. Apple probably makes crazy statements regarding the device's capabilities to each company so that they can determine the source of leaks. I hear Subway is hiring...
  11. entatlrg macrumors 68040


    Mar 2, 2009
    Waterloo & Georgian Bay, Canada
    It will be a leak from the Bell or Rogers side that got the info to the National Globe and Mail newspaper.

    No doubt Apple won't be too happy about it.
  12. damir00 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 30, 2011
    There is no reason for either company to have access to prototypes unless Apple is integrating something very deep with them.
  13. iChrist macrumors 65816


    Sep 7, 2011
    3 countries for tax benefit
    Is like Kinect? No? Does other people see how is same? Jobs 'cracked it' when Kinect came out. lol ;)
  14. Zaqfalcon macrumors 6502

    Mar 22, 2010

    ITV already exists, they will not be permitted to call it this.

    Unless Apple buys ITV of course. Will the real ITV please stand up.
  15. RollTide1017 macrumors regular

    Sep 28, 2009
    Montgomery, AL
    If true, I hope it works better than Kinect. My Kinect is most useful for collecting dust. I have to yell at the thing for it to recognize any voice commands and the hand gestures don't work at all if I'm sitting in my comfortable spot on the couch.

    For the gestures to work I have to sit straight up, on the edge and center of the couch, and even then they still don't work very well. Now, if I stand a few feet in front of my couch they work great, but who wants to have to stand up to change channels. With the 360, it is 10x easier to grab a controller or remote and get to what you want in about half the time it takes to get there with Kinect.
  16. JamesGorman macrumors 65816


    Dec 31, 2008
  17. washby4 macrumors newbie

    Feb 6, 2012
    Ever heard of controlled leaks. Its a tactic not unfamiliar to apple. What better way to build up hype for a new product then by periodically reminding people that its coming without having to spend money on advertising. Not saying this is definitely one, but i would not be surprised in the slightest if it was
  18. Can't Stop macrumors 6502

    Dec 22, 2011
    Indeed it is, people still have caps on their cable internet plans.
  19. Tech198 macrumors G5

    Mar 21, 2011
    Australia, Perth

    Not bad.... but i wonder how the hand gestures would work.

    I mean, it cannot be direct contact with the screen, as no-one would sit THAT close to watch anyway.

    So, it must be probably be kind something like the wii, sensor bar attached with a remote very similar, only this one also has speech.

    I'm not really into the habit of speaking into anything. so I don't really like the voice.. (aka. Similarly, Siri on the IPhone 4S only lasted 30 seconds of excitement, then the feeling wore off)

    Is this be still good, depending on price when available, to get rid of you external ATV 2 ? *shrugs* we'll see.
  20. marksman macrumors 603


    Jun 4, 2007
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    The interesting thing is the tv market is a mess with many companies losing money. I think Sony's tv division lost close to 3 billion dollars last year. It seems the tv industry needs a shake up.
  21. mcfmullen macrumors member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Oh please! What illusion of competition do you believe??? Telus vs Rogers in the west = duopoly. Rogers vs Shaw in ontario = Duopoly. Bell vs Videotron in Quebec = duopoly. Bell vs Bell Aliant in Atlantic Canada = Monopoly.

  22. marksman macrumors 603


    Jun 4, 2007
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    There will be an AT&T out there who takes a competitive edge.

    We all thought apple would try to compete against the cable cos directly but partnering with them would be very shrewd. Cable cos own content and also have content deals. If apple tried to go it alone it would have been like releasing a carrier free iPhone to start, it would have never taken off.

    If they can work with cable and satellite companies who also work with subsidies they could control their product and guarantee penetration. In 5 years the apple tv is a must have for all distributors but apple calls all the shots.

    We have all been looking at this short term but this could be a real long term strategy. If apple can sell TVs for 699 instead of 1499 because of subsidies it would potentially work well.

    I never even considered this route but it makes sense. This way apple gets distribution and content quickly. They also breakdown the wall of cable cos playing games with content
  23. mcfmullen macrumors member

    Feb 6, 2012
    Bell: 4GB/2Mbps base plan
    Videotron: 5GB/3Mbps base plan
    Rogers: 15GB/3Mbps base plan
    Telus: 30GB/1Mbps base plan
    Sasktel: unlmtd?/256Kbps base plan

    Don't toot your horn with lies. All other ISPS are third parties relying on the above, with exception being that they have UNLIMITED caps (for the most part) but they match speeds on the low end so no, your ISP DOES NOT serve a minimum 125GB with a base speed of 10Mbps.
  24. marksman macrumors 603


    Jun 4, 2007
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    That is your takeaway?

    By the way a 42" flat screen is not some kind of massive burden and people likely buy TVs at malls now
  25. tylerk36 macrumors member

    Feb 22, 2009
    Maybe SIRI doesn't work without internet but simple commands do. Such as the iPhone 4 had simple commands that would work without internet. So maybe that will be an option. No internet then simple commands internet then SIRI.

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