Shaw offers 10Mbps with 125GB cap as a base plan, NOT 25Mbps. Their extreme plan offers 25 Mbps with 250GB cap at 62$/month EXCLUDING TV and phone so quit lying. Their "highest" plan Unlimited Lite, gives Unlimited Gb at 1Mbps for 74.90$!!!!!!
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Shaw offers 10Mbps with 125GB cap as a base plan, NOT 25Mbps. Their extreme plan offers 25 Mbps with 250GB cap at 62$/month EXCLUDING TV and phone so quit lying. Their "highest" plan Unlimited Lite, gives Unlimited Gb at 1Mbps for 74.90$!!!!!!
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People don't understand that apples biggest obstacle here is content access. Given current realities it would be at least 5-10 years before apple was in a position to offer a full array of content. The current cable cos already have the access to the content.
Apple can't break the current content control model just releasing an independent tv. I am sure they have worked hard on it but none of the major media companies are going to go for it for sometime due to existing contracts and other concerns.
This move is great for the cable cos and I am sure some will jump on it. Their biggest fear is an outsider making them Obselete. Apple could change the whole game for them and guarantee them gateway control for 20 more years.
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People don't understand that apples biggest obstacle here is content access. Given current realities it would be at least 5-10 years before apple was in a position to offer a full array of content. The current cable cos already have the access to the content.
Apple can't break the current content control model just releasing an independent tv. I am sure they have worked hard on it but none of the major media companies are going to go for it for sometime due to existing contracts and other concerns.
This move is great for the cable cos and I am sure some will jump on it. Their biggest fear is an outsider making them Obselete. Apple could change the whole game for them and guarantee them gateway control for 20 more years.
The offerings depend on the region. Turns out Shaw does offer up to 250mbps. And Bell is rolling out their fibre optics that goes up to 25mbps download/7mbps upload, with 100gb limit. I'm on that plan right now.
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I think I know how apple "cracked" it. They are going to do to the cable TV Companies what they did to the cell phone industry, and then some. They will become a DVR vendor like motorola. First, they will charge the carriers hundreds in subsidy for the device, but the carriers will sell it on contract to the user, with a certain monthly fee. Right now DVR box costs $10 a month, this will cost at least $20/mo with a two year contract. This is also how they will sell at higher prices. They will move the TV industry more towards the contract/subsidy model, becoming the desired device and boosting the companies subscribers that offer their TV. Doesn't really solve the Balkanization problem, except they could have a DVR / iTunes hybrid. Not their style but everyone has a DVR anyway so is apple really going to end DVRs with iTunes? Not in the near future, so if you can't beat em, join em to beat em at their own game. It would be really nice to get rid of the cable box/ DVR, apple TV, and just have them all in the screen and integrated. And just to make a prediction that will never come true, it will play blu ray. Side load. Imagine that. One tv does it all.
I think I know how apple "cracked" it. They are going to do to the cable TV Companies what they did to the cell phone industry, and then some. They will become a DVR vendor like motorola. First, they will charge the carriers hundreds in subsidy for the device, but the carriers will sell it on contract to the user, with a certain monthly fee. Right now DVR box costs $10 a month, this will cost at least $20/mo with a two year contract. This is also how they will sell at higher prices. They will move the TV industry more towards the contract/subsidy model, becoming the desired device and boosting the companies subscribers that offer their TV. Doesn't really solve the Balkanization problem, except they could have a DVR / iTunes hybrid. Not their style but everyone has a DVR anyway so is apple really going to end DVRs with iTunes? Not in the near future, so if you can't beat em, join em to beat em at their own game. It would be really nice to get rid of the cable box/ DVR, apple TV, and just have them all in the screen and integrated. And just to make a prediction that will never come true, it will play blu ray. Side load. Imagine that. One tv does it all.
DOUGLAS ADAMS!
For those of you familiar with the Hitchhikers Guide, there is a bit where they're in their fancy spaceship, and he's talking about listening to the radio. He describes how at first radios had control buttons, then surfaces that detected touch. Eventually radios detected motion without touch, which meant that you had to sit annoyingly still to avoid changing the channel.
Douglas Adams wrote this in the seventies.
Thanks for the reminder!
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The directv DVr is much better than the old combo box. The repartnering is something in the works for years
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The directv DVr is much better than the old combo box. The repartnering is something in the works for years
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You have no clue what you're talking about - none whatsoever.
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250mps, 1TB cap, $115.
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How is there no competition when all 2 of the 3 cable providers are available in my area? if we count satellite I have 4 options.
Talking to your tv, waving your hands and arms to control it.... I can imagine the chaos when their is an argument going on about what to watch. It will be changing channels, surfing the net, streaming etc all at the same time. Much better than a remote.
So siri is barely functioning outside of the US on iPhone, and very much still in Beta, and yet she's magically now on a TV set inside a canadian network company...... Yeah right.... I'm calling shenanigans on this article.
Think of the poor suckers watching PRON ;-) Hands waving about, speaking to their TV... Siri interjecting half way through.... "Sorry viewer. I don't understand "yeah that's the stuff, do it baby". Did you mean "Turn to Letterman?".........
Think of the poor suckers watching PRON ;-) Hands waving about, speaking to their TV... Siri interjecting half way through.... "Sorry viewer. I don't understand "yeah that's the stuff, do it baby". Did you mean "Turn to Letterman?".........
Will you knock it off now?
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Never said they didn't. All I said is it clearly ISN'T the base plan and it certainly IS NOT 50$ including phone and TV.
Honestly, the rumor coming from a Canadian cableco makes more sense. Cablecos hate AppleTV/Netflix/Hulu, because they are direct competitors to their own VOD services and all ways people can get entertainment content that bypasses Cablecos as the content provider. They just become "dumb pipe" ISPs at that point, a position they don't want to be in at all compared to charging people per program with the price varying based on what it is.
I'd expect the opposition to be fiercest in the U.S., where you can't even legally buy (outright) a digital cable converter.
You are in the WAY minority. For most people there is ONE cable company, and satellite... and that's assuming there's no technical reasons one of the two can't be used.
There's a reason people have been getting excited about U-Verse and other IPTV services.
Next week, SameSung and Sony will reveal that they are implementing motion control as well as voice!
That's how it usually is isn't it? Apple might not invent the technology but they are always the first to use it properly then everyone copies quickly with the cheapo versions lol.
Apple say they are doing voice with TV so now sony and samsung have put out their version with voice but Apple didn't leak all the details and now sony and samsung are behind rofl
That's how it usually is isn't it? Apple might not invent the technology but they are always the first to use it properly then everyone copies quickly with the cheapo versions lol.
Apple say they are doing voice with TV so now sony and samsung have put out their version with voice but Apple didn't leak all the details and now sony and samsung are behind rofl
Is it just me or is controlling a SIRI enabled TV ridiculous? Say i'm watching a movie at a decent volume but i want to mute it for a phone call or to yell at the kids or something? Do i have to yell MUTE as loud as i can so TV picks it up over the movie? Or i'm watching a basketball game at reasonable high volume but want to flick channels in the ads so have to yell them at top of my voice? Or even with hand gestures, one to bring up on screen menu, another to select volume then another to move the volume?
Sounds like a fad to me. Can't see how it can sensibly work for normal people.
Sounds like a fad to me. Can't see how it can sensibly work for normal people.
This is going to come down to pricing. Unless the unit is feature packed OR competitively priced, I just can't see it selling in volume. Today you can pick up a large screen high quality TV for as little as £600.00 Having a partner or partners would make sense though, especially if discounting is going to be applied.
I'm the same. I've zero interest in any aspect of this story. Besides messing about with them initially after purchasing, I've never used Siri, Google Voice or Kinects voice control features. And for those who say this will be a more elegant implementation I'll counter with the old remote control which I find hard to imagine this new "solution" will surpass. I also want my TV to be as dumb as possible, the current system of plugging in a brain such as the current Apple TV makes much more sense.
These 2 companies got played. This was just a fake project to detect potential leaks at these 2 companies. They both fell into the apple secrecy trap test. These companies just failed.
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This all makes a lot of sense. Of course Apple will partner with cable providers. As much as cord cutters don't want to admit it, there are too many benefits of cable for regular users. Cable news, live sports, tv shows (when they air). Tons of high quality, high resolution content. The $1500 price point for the tv sounds about right. I'd expect that it might even be a little higher. I really hope this happens. I'm looking forward to FaceTime and apps, my usual cable channels and everything else.
Apple isn't going to revolutionize where people get their content or disintermediate cable companies. They're going to change the television itself and considering the cord cutting options, I'm glad the cable providers are being included.
This all makes a lot of sense. Of course Apple will partner with cable providers. As much as cord cutters don't want to admit it, there are too many benefits of cable for regular users. Cable news, live sports, tv shows (when they air). Tons of high quality, high resolution content. The $1500 price point for the tv sounds about right. I'd expect that it might even be a little higher. I really hope this happens. I'm looking forward to FaceTime and apps, my usual cable channels and everything else.
Apple isn't going to revolutionize where people get their content or disintermediate cable companies. They're going to change the television itself and considering the cord cutting options, I'm glad the cable providers are being included.
so reinvent Tivo basically?
As for siri, presumably it won't be directly replacing remote control commands. You won't be saying 'Siri, switch to channel 205'. You'll be saying 'Siri, switch to CBS', or 'Siri, record House for me' and it'll do the rest.
plus all the current iphone stuff that can be overlaid - 'siri, whats the weather forecast for tomorrow?' - could bring up the weather channel in a small window, along with a web page showing the weather forecast for your area.
Still not convinced thats a big reason to buy a whole new TV, but maybe they can pull off what Google TV failed, and properly integrate internet and TV?