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Rogers Announces iPhone Plans in Canada

airjuggernaut said:
Ah, momments like these make me wish I was American. :eek:
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loll Me too!!! I've been looking at this and I won,t be able to affort the iPhone 3G !! I'm so sad! I've been waiting forever for it to come to Canada. I'm gonna have to wait after my studies, when I'm gonna have a good job. And even then, I'm not sure I'll be willing to pay that much per month for a phone. A pretty cool phone, but still.

I think I'm gonna buy the iPhone 3G, i'm gonna hack it and use it with my current, more than cheap, Rogers plan!!! I at least want the GPS function of this hot phone!!
 
bketchum said:
Rogers 2007 revenue - $10,123,000,000
Rogers 2007 profit - $63,700,000

It's time for Rogers to understand how business works. Those are piss-poor gross profits.
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Where the hell did you get that data? Rogers reported a profit of $254 million for FY2007. A quarter-of-a-billion dollars. If you factor out restructuring costs as a result of the acquisition of Fido which has been spread out over several years, the profit was actually much higher (like $0.46/share).

Their total revenue for the year was just over $2.6 billion... not this wacky $10 billion figure you just posted.

Their profit margin is roughly 10% of revenue. And like I said, once the costs of restructuring and acquisitions is factored out, it's actually much higher.

Put another way... Rogers has 2.61 million subscribers, and made about a $36 profit off of each of them in FY2007 (well, that's a median average—some customers are more profitable than others). This does not seem like much. However, in these terms, they are the most profitable carrier in North America.
 
danielmenjivar said:
First of all, there is no such thing as background processes on the iPhone.

Secondly, yes 400MB is very easy to go over with the iPhone. Remember, emails are full rich HTML, Safari is not WAP and add to that Google Maps, YouTube, the App Store and iTunes... Not to mention the data needed for exchange services via ActiveSync or MobileMe. Very easy, very realistic to go over 400MB, especially when the average website is >1MB these days.
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Right, sorry, forgot about the background processes thing.

So do you think Rogers will change these plans based on the negative reactions? I sure hope so. Looks like 400 mb isn't enough to enjoy the iPhone.
 
Canadians Get shafted All the time, just look at our car prices compared to our friends south of the border.

there has to be a time when we say enough is enough, I propose this time is here and now.


Yesterday I used my Ipod Touch at starbucks and watched at least 1 hour of youtube, with Rogers price point I would be in debt for the rest of my life paying for those Internet/Data charges.
 
Garemz said:
Yesterday I used my Ipod Touch at starbucks and watched at least 1 hour of youtube, with Rogers price point I would be in debt for the rest of my life paying for those Internet/Data charges.
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Yes, but you were using WiFi, just like the iPhone would...

These plans are ridiculous, yes, and I don't know how much data I would use in a month, but let's keep the examples clear of false facts.
 
times said:
contact the management as well:

nadir.mohammed@rci.rogers.com
john.boynton@rci.rogers.com
upinder.saini@rci.rogers.com
raj.doshi@rci.rogers.com
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I just sent the following email to all of these addresses PLUS elizabeth.hamilton@rci.rogers.com (most of these characters are on vacation...I'd leave town too after announcing something as stupid as these iPhone plans). If you feel as strongly as I do, please email them all:

Name*,

I imagine you've received hundreds, if not thousands, of complaints from unhappy people shocked by today's iPhone plan pricing announcement. This is another one of them so if you're reading this on your company-paid Blackberry over a cocktail to take the edge off, I hope you enjoy it.

I'm currently a Rogers customer for both internet and cable (I was a home phone customer until general Rogers incompetence was unable to remedy an issue I was having with my line but I won't get into that here).

I'll be moving homes in August. While I'm actually happy with both my internet and cable service through Rogers, I'll be canceling everything to move over to Frank and Gordon country. I would much rather give my money to the beavers than hand another nickel to Ted.

The funny thing about this is that I don't actually pay for my current phone plan with Telus (unlimited data for $45 a month, no less). One of my clients who needs to get ahold of me via email actually foots the bill for my monthly plan and doesn't have an issue shelling out a few hundred for the service. That said, I'd rather not be forced into a 3-year contract with a company that gouges its clients with a data plan better suited for internet use in 1999.

I sincerely hope you reconsider how you treat your customers and take a cue from AT&T and the other international providers offering unlimited data for a lot less. Your plans don't fool anybody and as soon as a new GSM carrier enters the picture in 2009 or 2010, expect a mass exodus of customers.

I don't expect anything other than a canned response but I look forward to receiving it nonetheless.

Sincerely,

ClassicBean*
Soon-to-be-former Rogers Customer

*Real name substituted
 
Garemz said:
Canadians Get shafted All the time, just look at our car prices compared to our friends south of the border.

there has to be a time when we say enough is enough, I propose this time is here and now.
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Canadians will be pissed off, complain and put up with it. Just like we always do.
 
queshy said:
Right, sorry, forgot about the background processes thing.

So do you think Rogers will change these plans based on the negative reactions? I sure hope so. Looks like 400 mb isn't enough to enjoy the iPhone.
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Yes, 400 mb isn't enough for the original iPhone, but it will be even worse with the iPhone 3G. Since the experience gets better people will use more resources like better resolution video streaming for instance. It's pretty much like comparing when you used to have a dial up connection and then got a nice broadband connection: you used to download 20 mb per day, now you download 500 mb. With a 400 mb cap I would stay away from the Youtube icon and would adjust to receive text-only e-mails. But, for many people who count with wi-fi available all the day (or almost) this cap isn't that bad. I had two opposite experiences: spent 200 mb on a month and 900m on others; wi-fi availability on your routine will make all the difference.
 
Having to "worry" about how much weight you're lifting is a terrible aspect of the new iPhone plan. Why should we have to worry about using the internet "too much"? I've been on my computer for a few hours today and it never crossed my mind. What if a friend asks to check his e-mail on your iPhone? DO you decline for you have a fear of surpassing your limit? Let's not forget -the overcharge rate is INSANE! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Well this is the basic "grab your ankles" plan from rogers.

But honestly the solution is very simple
1) Write a polite email to rogers explaining that although you had planned to buy an iPhone from them, you no longer will.
2) Don't buy an iPhone from rogers

Actually #2 is the most important there, we can whine and moan and protest all we want and it won't make a damned difference. The 1 and only thing that will change the pricing here is lack of sales.

We've waited one year since the original iPhone came out, we can wait one more. Hey it's better than getting locked into a 3 year contract at this rate.
 
Looks like MAX 46 people will be buying an iPhone in Canada...haha.

I've never seen a thread with such a low ratio of negatives:positives!
 
For those saying they will Jailbreak the iPhone... ummm... how do you plan to buy one in the first place? You can't buy it without a contact. And even if you could... the price would be closer to $500. The $199 / $299 price is a heavily subsidized price.
 
I'd like to see people actually post their monthly iPhone data usage. I'll bet most won't go over 400MB.

Let's see:
$60 + $6.95 (System Access Fee) + $.25 (911 fee) + $6 (Caller ID) = $73.20.

AT&T is $70.

What the heck are people complaining about? How much were you expecting? Are you really going to go over 400MB? That's 13MB every single day. This isn't your primary computer here - are you really going to spend all day on the web?
 
bketchum said:
The Conservative Party had a war room full of lobbyists working the last election, including an individual representing the interests of Rogers Communications and Shaw Communications. These two companies donated significantly to get the Conservatives in to power. My guess is that the current Canadian federal government would have to be pressed pretty hard to step in to this ordeal.
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It is illegal for companies and unions to make political donations in Canada. Individuals are limited to $1,000 per year. Many of the Tories decisions have actually angered big business. There were also no lobbyists in the war room. You are a liar.

Got any other conspiracy theories that make no sense? Come back when you have a clue.
 
Hawkeye411 said:
You can sign this petition supporting Bill C-555 GET CONNECTED FAIRLY ACT. It is an attempt to have the cellphone companies in Canada remove the System Access Fee.

Cheers.
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Ah yes, solve regulatory problems with more regulation!

The problem in the Canadian wireless industry is because of a foreign-competitor lockout.

We've decided in Canada, that allowing foreign companies to compete in the telecommunication, banking and media sectors is just not allowed.

The only chance of this changing, quite honestly, would be if the Conservative Party got a majority government, and even then, I'm not so sure they'd rock the boat. I can tell you right now, that neither the Liberal Party or the NDP would be interested in removing ownership restrictions over these things because of the perceived threat of the "American takeover" of Canadian phone companies.

Many Conservatives, especially old Red Tories share these protectionist leanings and have no desire to liberalize these foreign ownership laws as they would see doing so as a risk to Canadian jobs.

The basic political calculus: it's better to have tens of thousands of Canadians employed at Rogers, with less competition, and less consumer choice, than it is to have an American company not-employing as many Canadians and competing against Canadian-owned interests.

So nobody hold your breath for anything to change.
 
hayesk said:
I'd like to see people actually post their monthly iPhone data usage. I'll bet most won't go over 400MB.

Let's see:
$60 + $6.95 (System Access Fee) + $.25 (911 fee) + $6 (Caller ID) = $73.20.

AT&T is $70.

What the heck are people complaining about? How much were you expecting? Are you really going to go over 400MB? That's 13MB every single day. This isn't your primary computer here - are you really going to spend all day on the web?
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Yea ... don't use the internet and don't talk more than 150 min ... What's the problem?? ;) LMAO
 
Nice timing, Rogers

Anyone notice they announced the plan right before the Canada Day long weekend? I guess they think people, especially our lazy media, won't notice and they will be able to ride out any bad publicity.

LOL these people are weasels.
 
Can we get one from another country

http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly

This is a pay as you go option from the UK. I am sure someone will be able to make some money selling them :)


Will the sim from my current rogers phone work in the iphone. How about any sim card?

I would rather pay a premium for the iphone than get stuck into the horrible rogers pricing. If needed I will go without a data plan and just use wifi

This way no freakin 3 year contract. The longest out there,
 
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