It's a waste of time sending e-mails to the guy at iphonerogerswireless@gmail.com
Just look at this:
Puma
Really ??? Rogers does not use a Gmail email address? - What a surprise !
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Really ??? Rogers does not use a Gmail email address? - What a surprise !
Really ??? Rogers does not use a Gmail email address? - What a surprise !
Yeah, I kinda knew that before I posted that... If you look at the previous posts you will see the people who contacted this guy and got a pretty legit response.
I was merely posting a clarifying message to anyone who still thought it was Rogers.
Puma
Scary Story
I'm not happy with limited data at all now!!! Here's what happened:
I went down to New York for the long weekend with my family. During our trip, we went to an Apple Store. I only had ten minutes to look around, and I went straight to the iPhones (I had never actually held an iPhone before). The first thing I did is check to see if it had the option to see data usage. It did, and it had 3mb. When I had to leave (10 min later), I checked the data usage again and it had 10mb used. In ten minutes, I used 7mb!!!
How can anyone's average data use be 100mb!?!? In one day, I could blow past 100mb with the iPhone.
P-79
I'm not happy with limited data at all now!!! Here's what happened:
I went down to New York for the long weekend with my family. During our trip, we went to an Apple Store. I only had ten minutes to look around, and I went straight to the iPhones (I had never actually held an iPhone before). The first thing I did is check to see if it had the option to see data usage. It did, and it had 3mb. When I had to leave (10 min later), I checked the data usage again and it had 10mb used. In ten minutes, I used 7mb!!!
How can anyone's average data use be 100mb!?!? In one day, I could blow past 100mb with the iPhone.
P-79
I want iphone + I cant afford it =
severe sense of entitlement
manic BB posting
wasted time and energy
severe sense of entitlement
manic BB posting
wasted time and energy
Hmm, other than the fact that all Apple Stores have a free wi-fi hotspot, and unless you also quickly went through the settings and turned off the wi-fi radio, then you would have been using wi-fi.
Which of course would mean that nothing would be recorded on the EDGE usage.
I just tried twice to use as many MB as possible in ten minutes, and the most I could was 3.7 MB received and 0.3 MB sent, so 4 MB total. Of course, perhaps the EDGE reception could be stronger elsewhere.
My average monthly use IS 100 MB. The fact that people believe that gigabytes of data is being swallowed up is frustrating from my viewpoint as I want to see a mindful revolt over these plans.
I am not using my iPhone constantly when I am purely wireless. It tends to occur in episodes where I am waiting in line, or waiting for an appointment etc. And even when I do, I would tend to open up a site like MacRumors, and be directed to the mobile feed, and sit there and read, then scroll down, then read etc. I am not trying to open as many sites as possible. When I first got my Rogers wireless plan for the iPhone I truly felt I was going to use many times more than I do, and I continue to be surprised.
I still fear that the 3G phone will lead to data overages. Obviously, the first few months using it, I will be paying attention and getting an idea for the pace at which the 3G phone swallows data. There is the option to adjust the plan type, albeit with prorated data increases. This is assuming Rogers elects to end their insulting offers on the voice plans before launch.
Cheers.
Which of course would mean that nothing would be recorded on the EDGE usage.
I just tried twice to use as many MB as possible in ten minutes, and the most I could was 3.7 MB received and 0.3 MB sent, so 4 MB total. Of course, perhaps the EDGE reception could be stronger elsewhere.
My average monthly use IS 100 MB. The fact that people believe that gigabytes of data is being swallowed up is frustrating from my viewpoint as I want to see a mindful revolt over these plans.
I am not using my iPhone constantly when I am purely wireless. It tends to occur in episodes where I am waiting in line, or waiting for an appointment etc. And even when I do, I would tend to open up a site like MacRumors, and be directed to the mobile feed, and sit there and read, then scroll down, then read etc. I am not trying to open as many sites as possible. When I first got my Rogers wireless plan for the iPhone I truly felt I was going to use many times more than I do, and I continue to be surprised.
I still fear that the 3G phone will lead to data overages. Obviously, the first few months using it, I will be paying attention and getting an idea for the pace at which the 3G phone swallows data. There is the option to adjust the plan type, albeit with prorated data increases. This is assuming Rogers elects to end their insulting offers on the voice plans before launch.
Cheers.
It's not about affording it. It's about being able to use it the way it's supposed to be used, without having to monitor usage and always having to think twice before doing anything data-intensive.
Well, lower prices would be nice, but I can live with the prices if they just make the data unlimited.
personally, i think the government should just take ownership rogers and run it more like a service, like hydro. same with bell. communication is a necessity in the modern world.
then again, i am left wing, of the left winged canadians. communist? just a few molecules off.
Thought this post on the ruinediphone site was pretty funny:
"A three-year contract isn't a mobile phone agreement. It's a MARRIAGE. And I really don't feel like committing right now, Rogers, without an UNLIMITED DATA commitment from you. xx An Infuriated Non-Customer..."
"A three-year contract isn't a mobile phone agreement. It's a MARRIAGE. And I really don't feel like committing right now, Rogers, without an UNLIMITED DATA commitment from you. xx An Infuriated Non-Customer..."
Hydro isn't government run (at least in Ontario) anymore. They should allow some non-Canadian company in though... its not fair that they have a monopoly and there are not Canadian companies willing to go GSM. It should be a loophole.
Function Non-Canadian-Company-Loophole{
if (CanadianCompany has Monopoly && No CanadaianCompany Willing to step in){
Foriegn Company Allowed Entrance
}
}
I like it!
bketchum said:
RCI income statement states 10.32B revenue, with 7.77% profit margin. Maybe I'm reading it wrong or got the wrong year.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=RCI
bketchum said:
Are you from Calgary Southwest? LOL.
Theres nothing to stop groups from helping federal parties indirectly. For example, buying millions of dollars in TV ads.
It may look like Im off topic with this subject, but heres something Canadian iPhone fans can chew on
The Conservative Party knows that they have a soft underbelly with the fact that their 2006 election war room was stacked with lobbyist, so theyve declared a ban on lobbyists in their war room for the next election.
Instead, theyre hiring PMO and war room staff that are deregistered lobbyists. Case in point: Sandra Buckler was a lobbyist for Rogers Wireless. Harper assigned her as director of communications for the last 2.5 years.
As James Travers of the Toronto Star writes today, As Harper's unelected blunt instrument, she [Buckler] exercised more power than the Conservative caucus and most ministers.
To verify, you can look up Sandra Buckler in the Lobbyist Registration System on the Canadian government website here:
https://orl-bdl.gc.ca/app/secure/ec...000lzioKMceEcg-gJeG5zaKT55:12edujrta?lang=eng
Here are all the lobbyists that worked in Ottawa for Rogers in the 10 years or so:
Christine Bogie
HEIDI BONNELL
Pamela Dinsmore
SANDRA BUCKLER
LIBBY BURNHAM
AGNES CHAUDRON
LAURENCE DUNBAR
KAZ FLINN
FRANCIS FOX
DUNCAN FULTON
RONALD GUIRGUIS
Michael Harris
DAWN HUNT
Francesca Iacurto
Gerald Kerr-wilson
CHARLES KING
Kevin Macintosh
MARK MARISSEN
HARRY NEAR
Terrance Oakey
RANDY PETTIPAS
JOANN ROGERS
Daniel Rogers
Edward S. Rogers
Nicolas Ruszkowski
JOHN SCOTT
FRASER SMITH
Will Stewart
Brian Tobin
PIERRE TOMSON
MICHAEL VON HERFF
TED WOODHEAD
Another response from Rogers...
Hello to you all...Just posting this to show that I did do my part and for posterity's sake.
Emailing them may not change their minds for July 11; however, you have a responsibility to let Rogers know that you are unhappy with their plans. Apathy is the single greatest threat to democracy. When you remain silent in the face of injustice, then tyranny wins. [steps down from soapbox]
If you are unhappy with the plans, then let Rogers know. It may not help, but then again, it just might (and it costs you nothing).
Hello to you all...Just posting this to show that I did do my part and for posterity's sake.
Emailing them may not change their minds for July 11; however, you have a responsibility to let Rogers know that you are unhappy with their plans. Apathy is the single greatest threat to democracy. When you remain silent in the face of injustice, then tyranny wins. [steps down from soapbox]
If you are unhappy with the plans, then let Rogers know. It may not help, but then again, it just might (and it costs you nothing).
there was a way to turn off EDGE, so I'm sure you will be able to turn off 3G
but yeah I don't see new plans either... though I just poked through the terms & conditions and found this:
"Your iPhone will be enabled for data usage. If you subscribe to a plan with no data included, data charges at a pay-per-use rate of 5¢/KB for data sent and/or received over the Rogers network will apply, unless you subscribe to a data plan, which we highly recommend.
but yeah I don't see new plans either... though I just poked through the terms & conditions and found this:
"Your iPhone will be enabled for data usage. If you subscribe to a plan with no data included, data charges at a pay-per-use rate of 5¢/KB for data sent and/or received over the Rogers network will apply, unless you subscribe to a data plan, which we highly recommend.
"Your iPhone will be enabled for data usage. If you subscribe to a plan with no data included, data charges at a pay-per-use rate of 5¢/KB for data sent and/or received over the Rogers network will apply, unless you subscribe to a data plan, which we highly recommend."
Edit:
CrzyCanuck72, you beat me to it!
This looks like "good" news. Maybe they added this in response to all the shouting?
I still don't know if the value is there. No data plan? Kinda sucks.
Edit:
CrzyCanuck72, you beat me to it!
This looks like "good" news. Maybe they added this in response to all the shouting?
I still don't know if the value is there. No data plan? Kinda sucks.
Not certain about the new iPhone & v2 software at this point, but with the original iPhone, you can turn Edge off manually, but as soon as you (or the phone) do something to trigger a network connection in the abscence of WiFi, it turns itself back on automatically.
The only defense against this is to not have a data plan for it to connect to - if you have an active plan, the iPhone will happily connect using it - whether you want it to or not.
The software is really designed for always on network connectivity.
if they release data-less plans that are comparable to regular voice plans (or allow you to use your own retention plan) AND sell the iPhone at the subsidized price, I would probably get one
but that might be asking for too much
but that might be asking for too much
The ECF is CRIMINAL (min $1100, max $7920??!!)
Just saw this (new?) page, linked from the bottom of the iphone rates page as "terms & conditions"):
<http://www.rogers.com/cms/html/iphone_vpterms.shtml>
Early cancellation fee: minimum of $1100. Jesus H Christ.
Actually, hang on a minute. Here is the full text from that page:
>An Early Cancellation Fee (EECF) applies if, for any reason, your
>service is terminated prior to the end of the service agreement. The ECF
>is the greater of (ii) $1100 or (iii) $220 per month remaining in the
>service agreement, to a maximum of 400 (plus applicable taxes), and
>applies on each line in the plan that is terminated.
So, if you cancel the contract the day after signing it, the penalty is $220 * 36 months = $7920.
The intent here is dubious, though; I don't understand the latter bit of the last sentence. A maximum of 400 what? Months? That's 33 years.
Also, where is article "(i)" in that list?
Am I reading this right?
-b
Just saw this (new?) page, linked from the bottom of the iphone rates page as "terms & conditions"):
<http://www.rogers.com/cms/html/iphone_vpterms.shtml>
Early cancellation fee: minimum of $1100. Jesus H Christ.
Actually, hang on a minute. Here is the full text from that page:
>An Early Cancellation Fee (EECF) applies if, for any reason, your
>service is terminated prior to the end of the service agreement. The ECF
>is the greater of (ii) $1100 or (iii) $220 per month remaining in the
>service agreement, to a maximum of 400 (plus applicable taxes), and
>applies on each line in the plan that is terminated.
So, if you cancel the contract the day after signing it, the penalty is $220 * 36 months = $7920.
The intent here is dubious, though; I don't understand the latter bit of the last sentence. A maximum of 400 what? Months? That's 33 years.
Also, where is article "(i)" in that list?
Am I reading this right?
-b
What are you guys talking about... getting an iphone with no data plan.
The point of the iphone IS to use a data plan. Not just a wifi spot.
Otherwise all your really doing is having an ipod touch and a phone in one.
So you get to carry one less device if you get the iphone.
You need the data plans. That is what the iphone was designed for.
Data + phone.
The point of the iphone IS to use a data plan. Not just a wifi spot.
Otherwise all your really doing is having an ipod touch and a phone in one.
So you get to carry one less device if you get the iphone.
You need the data plans. That is what the iphone was designed for.
Data + phone.