Rogers Announces iPhone Plans in Canada

[Garemz]

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Whats the difference between Call display and who called?

 

[supermario19]

Call display shows you the number of who is calling when they call you.
Who called sends you a text message after someone calls you saying what number called and what time. It can be a bit annoying, but the point of it is that if your phone is off or doesnt have service and someone calls you and doesnt leave a message, you will be able to see Who Called

 

[Garemz]

Call display shows you the number of who is calling when they call you.
Who called sends you a text message after someone calls you saying what number called and what time. It can be a bit annoying, but the point of it is that if your phone is off or doesnt have service and someone calls you and doesnt leave a message, you will be able to see Who Called

Great, Thanks for the explanation.

 

[cere]

You must be fun at parties. Did it occur to you that some people might actually have a real job and want to buy an iPhone?

Do you derive pleasure from the suffering of others?

There are a million things I would like to say but I don't want to get banned myself but I do hope that you get a temp ban.

I hope your boss at Telusasifwegivedamn or BellHell gives you a subscription to Jelly of the month club for your trouble.

Please say some of the things you are considering. I would really love to know. What exactly about my post did you find so offensive? I like the idea that Apple might be trying to force Rogers to be reasonable with their rates.

WTF does that have to do with having a real job? Are you implying I don't have a real job?

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about or why you are going off like you are. Please elaborate...

1. Not everyone thinks the plans are ridiculous compared to existing plans from other providers for "real internet". Future announced plans in reaction to the iPhone do not count. They don't count because they are CDMA providers and no details about conditions or limitations have been detailed. I looked at the Telus site and I noticed that their "voice" portion cost "more" than what Rogers offers.

2. Some of us have been suffering under use of locked phones from Rogers (me), Bell and Telus where the provider removed certain features and replaced the music player with their branded version.

I don't give a rats ass if other people think that they will use more data when I wanted an iPhone because it is not crippled or tied into the carrier ringtone download service.

I really don't give a crap about the whiners on here because many of you are obviously not in the market for a smart phone or you never travel outside of North America so an iPod Touch and some craptastic phone from a CDMA provider is obviously a better choice for you.

But you see, I like to travel abroad and stay in 5 star hotels on my vacations so these plans a not a big deal for me to afford.

Maybe one of you whiners would like to buy this craptastic krzr crippled with the Rogers music player off me.

I plan on buying the iPhone 16GB white and going for the 75 dollar plan since I think 750MB per month should be more than enough for me. I hope to be able to haggle with them to get the Call display thrown in for free.

Are you five or six? It's nice when special ed kids get to use the internet, I guess.

I don't feel special. Do you?

There is nothing wrong with wanting a good deal but did you notice that the Canadian market is a lot smaller than the US and yet GSM providers have to cover about the same amount of area? When I looked at what the price of data plans where with Rogers before the iPhone plans were announced and compared them to what they are offering now I can see a huge difference. We basically have price parity with AT&T if not data limit parity now compared to what it was a year ago.

Never noticed that and if you have, you made it up. Do you honestly think Rogers GSM covers as much area as ATT does in the US? Rogers covers pockets along a small strip on the southern border. That is it. Head outside of urban and major suburban areas or off of the 401 and what sort of coverage do you think you will get? You are either a liar or confused. Given your posts, perhaps it doesn't really matter.

I never expected price parity given how small the market is here and the only problem I have with the plans are the weekday minutes, incoming calls and outgoing text. The data cap is not an issue for me given that I can access the hotspots around my city and where I travel on business and because I do not plan on watching streamed video often on 3G.

Fair enough. Glad you will be satisfied with the rate currently offered. Why are you so offensive to those that do not agree with you? Usually indicates larger (or smaller) problems elsewhere. But, I forgot, you have a real job.

blah, blah, I travel and stay at 5 start hotels, I am rich, biatch...blah. blah.

Good for you. Now we all know what you like to say you do on vacation. I know my life is already better for knowing it.

The same thing applies with phones. I started out on the Telus mobility network with a "brick" motorola flip phone which probably weighed the equivalent of five iPhones. I also tried out Fido before going with Rogers several years ago before Fido was bought out by Rogers.

I had a Nokia phone with WAP from Fido, Moto V60 from Rogers, a Samsung Slider phone and now Krzr from Rogers. All of those phones had WAP internet and only the Samsung did not have MP3 ringtones locked out by Rogers.

The iPhone is what I want and the plans are what I would consider reasonable with a few tweaks considering the size of the Canadian market.

Great, you had some phones. That is awesome. Truly fantastic. Again, why is it that when others want better rates, you get so offensive? Perhaps you like high prices, (because of you good job and 5 star hotels) but many others feel Rogers rates are not reasonable.

But I have to reiterate that the "iPhone" is what I'm interested in because it is the first network locked phone that is not software or feature locked by the telcos.

And what exactly is it about this that interests you?

 

[Garemz]

Ladies/Gentlemen,

This is our last week before the iphone comes out, what is the plan of attack for this last week?

I myself will not be buying an iphone with current Roger pricing, and wil be sending an email once an hour to Rogers reminding them of that

Cheers
Gary AKA Future Telus/Bell Customer

 

[cere]

Ladies/Gentlemen,

This is our last week before the iphone comes out, what is the plan of attack for this last week?

I myself will not be buying an iphone with current Roger pricing, and wil be sending an email once an hour to Rogers reminding them of that

Cheers
Gary AKA Future Telus/Bell Customer

Also not buying one until the rates/packages change. I have also encouraged the other people I know that were considering one to hold off for now.

Will be looking for people with 'real jobs', such as aristotle, to be standing in lines telling all what a great guy he is. And, perhaps, insulting those that are are not interested. (but then, they don't have 'real jobs', right aristotle)

 

[MacInTO]

Ladies/Gentlemen,

This is our last week before the iphone comes out, what is the plan of attack for this last week?

I myself will not be buying an iphone with current Roger pricing, and wil be sending an email once an hour to Rogers reminding them of that

Cheers
Gary AKA Future Telus/Bell Customer

Your method is probably the simplest and best - don't buy the iPhone unless Rogers provides an unlimited data plan - that is reasonably priced.

Low sales will make Rogers and Apple notice.

I'm not sure I have to time to send emails hourly though.

 

[currymac]

Low sales will make Rogers and Apple notice.

Trust me... Apple already knows.

 

[mynameismatt89]

I am getting the phone with NO data as Rogers is really hooping us (As we all know) And the Rogers rep asked me how come I am getting an iPhone without a data plan. I explained to her that at my work I have WiFi available and at home as well so there really isn't a huge need for data right at this time. The Rogers rep then told me that WiFi would be disabled for regular use unless it was an authorized Rogers hotspot. Is there any truth to this statement or is the rep as clueless as I am about the phone and what it can do.
QUOTE]

Can anyone verify this?

...what a terrible thing for Rogers to do to those of us who aren't interested in getting a Data Plan right now.

 

[Garemz]

Trust me... Apple already knows.

Oh do tell

 

[RebelScum]

1. Not everyone thinks the plans are ridiculous compared to existing plans from other providers for "real internet". Future announced plans in reaction to the iPhone do not count. They don't count because they are CDMA providers and no details about conditions or limitations have been detailed. I looked at the Telus site and I noticed that their "voice" portion cost "more" than what Rogers offers.

2. Some of us have been suffering under use of locked phones from Rogers (me), Bell and Telus where the provider removed certain features and replaced the music player with their branded version.

I don't give a rats ass if other people think that they will use more data when I wanted an iPhone because it is not crippled or tied into the carrier ringtone download service.

I really don't give a crap about the whiners on here because many of you are obviously not in the market for a smart phone or you never travel outside of North America so an iPod Touch and some craptastic phone from a CDMA provider is obviously a better choice for you.

But you see, I like to travel abroad and stay in 5 star hotels on my vacations so these plans a not a big deal for me to afford.

Maybe one of you whiners would like to buy this craptastic krzr crippled with the Rogers music player off me.

I plan on buying the iPhone 16GB white and going for the 75 dollar plan since I think 750MB per month should be more than enough for me. I hope to be able to haggle with them to get the Call display thrown in for free.

See, there're 3 schools of thought on the whole thing:

1) Not being able to afford any of the plans and being outraged by it.

2) Being able to easily afford the plans, and being outraged by it.

3) Being able to afford any of the plans, and being a total douche about it.

I'm #2. You're definitely not #1.

Just because you can afford to pay for it doesn't make it a good plan. It's as though SPAM was $75/pound and saying "Screw you lowlifes, I love SPAM so it's like TOTALLY worth $75/pound."

If you're comfortable paying an exhorbitant rate simply because you have the coin to piss away, go right ahead. Don't think for a second you're not getting screwed over, though. Although I get the distinct impression you rarely take a second to think, anyway.

"I was accidentally was booked into a 3 star all inclusive resort in Cancun by my travel agent when I had paid for a 4-5 star all inclusive and guess what? During my one night stay in the wrong hotel, I had to use my hand to unclog the toliet after taking a dump (room was on the ground floor), there was no phone in the room and the phone booth by the road was broken and no air conditioning."

...awww.

 

[cere]

See, there're 3 schools of thought on the whole thing:

1) Not being able to afford any of the plans and being outraged by it.

2) Being able to easily afford the plans, and being outraged by it.

3) Being able to afford any of the plans, and being a total douche about it.

I'm #2. You're definitely not #1.

Just because you can afford to pay for it doesn't make it a good plan. It's as though SPAM was $75/pound and saying "Screw you lowlifes, I love SPAM so it's like TOTALLY worth $75/pound."

If you're comfortable paying an exhorbitant rate simply because you have the coin to piss away, go right ahead. Don't think for a second you're not getting screwed over, though. Although I get the distinct impression you rarely take a second to think, anyway.



...awww.

Dead on.

I had missed the part in his original post about having to unclog the hotel toilet by hand. Karma is a bitch. I guess he can take solace in the idea that the clog was indeed his and not the previous occupant's.

 

[Peruchito]

See, there're 3 schools of thought on the whole thing:

1) Not being able to afford any of the plans and being outraged by it.

2) Being able to easily afford the plans, and being outraged by it.

3) Being able to afford any of the plans, and being a total douche about it.

I'm #2. You're definitely not #1.

Just because you can afford to pay for it doesn't make it a good plan. It's as though SPAM was $75/pound and saying "Screw you lowlifes, I love SPAM so it's like TOTALLY worth $75/pound."

If you're comfortable paying an exhorbitant rate simply because you have the coin to piss away, go right ahead. Don't think for a second you're not getting screwed over, though. Although I get the distinct impression you rarely take a second to think, anyway.

...awww.

and i'm with you, rebelscum.

i'm #2, as well, and being someone from a third world country, watching my parents bust their balls trying to make a better life for us, and busting my own balls to continue that upward trek in life, even if i was rich enough to wipe my ass with money, i would think rogers' deal sucks. its called 'principles'.

 

[currymac]

i would think rogers' deal sucks. its called 'principles'.

Isn't principles and Rogers an oxymoron?

 

[RebelScum]

Dead on.

I had missed the part in his original post about having to unclog the hotel toilet by hand. Karma is a bitch. I guess he can take solace in the idea that the clog was indeed his and not the previous occupant's.

Heh, I noes...my heart is bleeding over here

To get back on topic...I will likely buy the iPhone on launch day but without a data plan. Switching off the 3G/EDGE radios isn't overly complicated and OTA WiFi is pretty much everywhere (just don't use your credit cards ) I'm still utterly offended at Rogers' rates, but as I have a $20/month voice plan, I feel like buying the iPhone at the subsidized price and NOT upgrading my plan will hurt Rogers' bottom line as much as not buying the thing at all. I mean I'm ALREADY paying them $20/mo...I may as well be doing so on an iPhone.

I don;t necessarily recommend this course of action. I am the first to admit...my "want factor" is winning me over here. But I have no intention whatsoever of giving Rogers even a single dime in Data fees. I have emailed the high-ups telling them so. A few times, actually. All I've ever gotten back is a single auto-reply from Liz Hamilton re. my first message.

 

[RebelScum]

and i'm with you, rebelscum.

i'm #2, as well, and being someone from a third world country, watching my parents bust their balls trying to make a better life for us, and busting my own balls to continue that upward trek in life, even if i was rich enough to wipe my ass with money, i would think rogers' deal sucks. its called 'principles'.

Principles + $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee, a philosophy to which Rogers obviously subscribes.

I am with you completely Peruchito.

 

[Peruchito]

Isn't principles and Rogers an oxymoron?

as much as i love curry, i have to smack you on this one haha. you misread what i said.

what i meant to say: having principles about not just throwing around money, just because you can afford it. and knowing the true value of things, etc. dig?

 

[cere]

Heh, I noes...my heart is bleeding over here

To get back on topic...I will likely buy the iPhone on launch day but without a data plan. Switching off the 3G/EDGE radios isn't overly complicated and OTA WiFi is pretty much everywhere (just don't use your credit cards ) I'm still utterly offended at Rogers' rates, but as I have a $20/month voice plan, I feel like buying the iPhone at the subsidized price and NOT upgrading my plan will hurt Rogers' bottom line as much as not buying the thing at all. I mean I'm ALREADY paying them $20/mo...I may as well be doing so on an iPhone.

I don;t necessarily recommend this course of action. I am the first to admit...my "want factor" is winning me over here. But I have no intention whatsoever of giving Rogers even a single dime in Data fees. I have emailed the high-ups telling them so. A few times, actually. All I've ever gotten back is a single auto-reply from Liz Hamilton re. my first message.

Have you confirmed with Rogers (as much as their reps actually know) that you will be able to get the subsidized price without a data plan? Also, there has been some mentions here and at other forums that Rogers reps are claiming wifi will be disabled on the phone if you do not subscribe to a data plan. I get the idea that the reps are simply confusing HotSpot access and wifi in general, but still, the idea of them disabling the functionality is disturbing.

 

[RebelScum]

Have you confirmed with Rogers (as much as their reps actually know) that you will be able to get the subsidized price without a data plan? Also, there has been some mentions here and at other forums that Rogers reps are claiming wifi will be disabled on the phone if you do not subscribe to a data plan. I get the idea that the reps are simply confusing HotSpot access and wifi in general, but still, the idea of them disabling the functionality is disturbing.

Well, what I PLAN to do is subscribe to the $60 plan and then run back to the office and immediately roll back a $20 plan. I'm totally willing to eat the $50 "rollback fee" if it means not paying for their data over the next 3 years, although I have every intention of arguing my way out of it.

WiFi is WiFi. It's an in-device radio transmitter. I would imagine they can no more disable WiFi on my iPhone than 102.1 The Edge can disable Radio on my Walkman.

Even if they can (which I HIGHLY doubt), there is nothing in the iPhone EULA about modifying the device, other than the fact that it will void your warranty. Won;t affect your service in any way. (Someone correct me if I read that wrong.)

 

[Peruchito]

Heh, I noes...my heart is bleeding over here

To get back on topic...I will likely buy the iPhone on launch day but without a data plan. Switching off the 3G/EDGE radios isn't overly complicated and OTA WiFi is pretty much everywhere (just don't use your credit cards ) I'm still utterly offended at Rogers' rates, but as I have a $20/month voice plan, I feel like buying the iPhone at the subsidized price and NOT upgrading my plan will hurt Rogers' bottom line as much as not buying the thing at all. I mean I'm ALREADY paying them $20/mo...I may as well be doing so on an iPhone.

I don;t necessarily recommend this course of action. I am the first to admit...my "want factor" is winning me over here. But I have no intention whatsoever of giving Rogers even a single dime in Data fees. I have emailed the high-ups telling them so. A few times, actually. All I've ever gotten back is a single auto-reply from Liz Hamilton re. my first message.

if thats the case, get it on Fido. i know its right pocket - left pocket for rogers, BUT per second billing is a life saver. also, dropping service from the main rogers brand will hurt that brand. AND if the canadian government ever gets balls again, and split up rogers like they did with bell (many years ago), Fido would most likely end up being its own company again.

 

[RebelScum]

if thats the case, get it on Fido. i know its right pocket - left pocket for rogers, BUT per second billing is a life saver. also, dropping service from the main rogers brand will hurt that brand. AND if the canadian government ever gets balls again, and split up rogers like they did with bell (many years ago), Fido would most likely end up being its own company again.

I would if I didn't have to pay ~$400 to get out of my existing ROGERS contract. Frackers >:|

 

[colemanj4]

Heh, I noes...my heart is bleeding over here

To get back on topic...I will likely buy the iPhone on launch day but without a data plan. Switching off the 3G/EDGE radios isn't overly complicated and OTA WiFi is pretty much everywhere (just don't use your credit cards ) I'm still utterly offended at Rogers' rates, but as I have a $20/month voice plan, I feel like buying the iPhone at the subsidized price and NOT upgrading my plan will hurt Rogers' bottom line as much as not buying the thing at all. I mean I'm ALREADY paying them $20/mo...I may as well be doing so on an iPhone.

I don;t necessarily recommend this course of action. I am the first to admit...my "want factor" is winning me over here. But I have no intention whatsoever of giving Rogers even a single dime in Data fees. I have emailed the high-ups telling them so. A few times, actually. All I've ever gotten back is a single auto-reply from Liz Hamilton re. my first message.

I am thinking about doing that as well... but I would advise (as I am doing) to wait at least a week (maybe a month) that way it at least screws their Opening Week numbers that are getting sent to Apple, and the Press

Then again, I may get a HTC Touch Diamond from Telus or Bell (Instinct maybe as well...?) ... don't want a contract for anything other than the iPhone though... and don't really want to go back to non-GSM...

 

[mugtastic]

The HTC Touch has had $7 UL data since November, they are just adding the Instinct to that plan and upping it to $10, it's the same plan they offer on their regular phones. Not wap but all data.

For all other smartphones both Bell and Telus have an UL data plan for $30 (as long as you have a $30 voice plan) Telus has had this for a few months and it's on there website. Bell offers it but doesn't advertise it, you have to ask.

Both Telus and Bell had these plans before Rogers introduced their $30 for 300Mb Blackberry plan or their iPhone plans. So yes it will happen it already is. Rogers has the good phones so people just accept it.

thanks for that info - what is the browsing experince like on these phones? i know my girlfriend's blackberry is not exactly a visual extrvaganza. are these other phones like the iphone/safari experience? what will the instinct's browser/interface be?

 

[Peruchito]

I would if I didn't have to pay ~$400 to get out of my existing ROGERS contract. Frackers >:|

dang, yo

i learned long time ago not so sign anything with rogers. that story in a nutshell: i got a new phone that lasted 1 year of my 3 year contract...

hell even if you tell them no contract they might throw you on one.

story #2:
i got cable for my mom so she can view the world cup. i didn't want a contract because my family doesn't watch tv. so keeping it longer makes no sense. i'd rather just pay for the high end cable to get the channels needed to watch the world cup for a month or so that i needed it.

called rogers. made sure they were clear on the no contract thing. they kept trying to sell me this and that, all with contract. i said no. they said fine. we linked up the deal, and they said they were having a promotion and will be giving me digital cable for free for a month. i said fine, but no contract.

a few months later, world cup was done. so i called to cancel the cable, the told me no. i was in a flippin CONTRACT!

i tried fighting it, but basically i had nothing to go by. thats why from that point on, i RECORD every call on my comp. and i let them know that i am, and i make sure the rep says his name clearly and gives me his rep ID. service has been a tad better since that, but not much.

rebelscum. its almost worth paying the $400 to get outta rogers... it really is...

 

[cere]

Well, what I PLAN to do is subscribe to the $60 plan and then run back to the office and immediately roll back a $20 plan. I'm totally willing to eat the $50 "rollback fee" if it means not paying for their data over the next 3 years, although I have every intention of arguing my way out of it.

WiFi is WiFi. It's an in-device radio transmitter. I would imagine they can no more disable WiFi on my iPhone than 102.1 The Edge can disable Radio on my Walkman.

Even if they can (which I HIGHLY doubt), there is nothing in the iPhone EULA about modifying the device, other than the fact that it will void your warranty. Won;t affect your service in any way. (Someone correct me if I read that wrong.)

I wish you luck on that. If it works, let us know, as I will probably do the same. I just wants others to test the waters and ensure that Rogers/Fido won't be trying to nail you for a much larger plan cancellation/rollback fee. Also, if you subscribe to the $60 plan, can you just switch back to your previous plan? I thought if you give up a grandfathered plan, it is gone. You could switch to another, current $20 plan, but it might not give you what your current plan provides.

Regarding the Wifi, I am very doubtful that they could/would disable Wifi. However, unlike Dean, Jason and Todd, Rogers has access to your device before you get it activated. I suppose, if they wanted to, they could disable it, but I can't imagine Apple would allow that.