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Rogers Canada Offers 6GB Data Plan for $30/Month

Hmmm

3 things

1. Does the 30 a month plan end on august 31 and then get charged somthing different or is it 30 for ever

2. thx rogers for listening for once

3. i think rogers did this to lock in buyers so they dont go onto the new gsm carrier from that auction... very smart
 
This afternoon I went into my local Rogers store to ask about pricing packages. They hadn't heard about the 6GB deal. In fact they seemed amazed that I was even remotely excited about getting an iPhone. There were no other customers in the store. One lone employee surfing the net at her workstation and another male employee (her boss?) surfing the net in an office in the back. The girl knew nothing about the iPhone at all, other than it will be available on Friday. I asked a couple of questions about service plans and she didn't know the answer, so she went and asked her boss, who seemed very upset at having to briefly stop surfing the net to answer a work-related question. And he didn't know the answer either. So yeah, way to go Rogers!

Animalk said:
There is absolutely no reason why the Canadian plans should be so different then the ones offered in the United States. We should be much much closer then we currently are. No excuse for it.
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Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but there is a very good reason why Canadian rates are higher than American rates -- population density. We have a lot more area to cover, and a lot fewer people paying the bills. I don't know the exact numbers, but for the sake of argument -- in the USA there might be one cell tower for every 1,000 subscribers on average. In Canada there might be one cell tower for every 250 subscribers. Data is cheap, but towers are expensive, and Rogers has to make their Return on Investment somehow.
 
goosnarrggh said:
Rogers has a Mega Time 20 plan that costs $20 per month for 200 daytime minutes and unlimited nights and weekends.

$6.95 SAF and $0.50 (or more depending on your province) 911 fees are mandatory additional costs.

Voicemail, caller ID, outgoing texting, etc are all optional additional costs.
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Thanks! Finally found it on their website. The Fido website is way better at finding you a plan. The rogers site is very confusing.

So do you think the 11$ is worth it for 125 SMS, voicemail, and caller ID? Or perhaps I should just get the caller ID and pay 15 cents per SMS...hmm...this is now getting very expensive!

Sorry for the 2x post...

candan9019 said:
Besides the differences you noted there is one big one. In order to get all of Rogers coverage it will cost you $5 extra, otherwise when you are outside of Fidos original coverage (what they had before Rogers bought them) you will be charged extra.
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Chef Medeski said:
Networks are the same. Yup, Fido is better in those terms. Plus Fido has better service and better personnel I find in my personal opinion.
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Hm...so which one of you is right? Living in a big Canadian city and not leaving it anytime soon, do I need to worry about "coverage"?

!¡ V ¡! said:
My phone plan with Bell give me the following:

200 min daytime
unlimited weeknights starting at 6 pm ends at 8 am (no extra charge)
unlimited weekends.
100 long distance North America anytime
Call Display/ Caller ID
Voice Mail
3 Way calling

Taxes included 33 CAD a month. Can Rogers or any other mobile SP match that.
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I don't think they will price match it. Isn't yours a retention plan?
 
eRondeau said:
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but there is a very good reason why Canadian rates are higher than American rates -- population density. We have a lot more area to cover, and a lot fewer people paying the bills. I don't know the exact numbers, but for the sake of argument -- in the USA there might be one cell tower for every 1,000 subscribers on average. In Canada there might be one cell tower for every 250 subscribers. Data is cheap, but towers are expensive, and Rogers has to make their Return on Investment somehow.
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Actually if we talk purely about population density, I think Canada wins. Most of our population is near the Canada-USA border, while the americans are dispersed everywhere on their territory.

Of course, we're about 10 times smaller in terms of population, but since we probably don't even cover 1/10 of our own territory I think it evens out.

I'll also be waiting for new carriers, since Rogers' plans are too expensive and their network doesn't even cover my area.
 
eRondeau said:
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but there is a very good reason why Canadian rates are higher than American rates -- population density. We have a lot more area to cover, and a lot fewer people paying the bills. I don't know the exact numbers, but for the sake of argument -- in the USA there might be one cell tower for every 1,000 subscribers on average. In Canada there might be one cell tower for every 250 subscribers. Data is cheap, but towers are expensive, and Rogers has to make their Return on Investment somehow.
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You must be joking, since most of the population density is in the greater metropolitian area, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary, etc... Having 1 or more towers servicing its customer base is beneficial not only to the customer (lack of dropped cals/reception and signal quality) however also to the Service Provider (SP) for equally managing data and voice traffic.

Roger/Fido , Bell/Telus make they money regardless of population density and area coverage since what they lose on rural customer they gain in metro areas (and this is a minimal amount if any revenue loss).

Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise and there is no need to justify the mobile companies pricing due to a lack of population when compared to the USA.

With no regret I will be terminating my mobile plan soon enough as I have no requirement for it any longer. :D

queshy said:
I don't think they will price match it. Isn't yours a retention plan?
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Not a retention plan at all. :D
 
eRondeau said:
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but there is a very good reason why Canadian rates are higher than American rates -- population density. We have a lot more area to cover, and a lot fewer people paying the bills. I don't know the exact numbers, but for the sake of argument -- in the USA there might be one cell tower for every 1,000 subscribers on average. In Canada there might be one cell tower for every 250 subscribers. Data is cheap, but towers are expensive, and Rogers has to make their Return on Investment somehow.
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This is just a silly idea. Rogers only covers cities and major suburbs. Go 20 minutes off the 401 outside of a city and you have no coverage. Rogers provides coverage in small pockets along a thin strip of the southern border, mainly. AT&T covers a lot more area.

If you want to compare density or coverage that Rogers would compare to, compare them to AT&T's coverage of areas like BosNyWash or SoCal.
 
for people who move: this plan is rather pinchy. ill wait to hear about early cancellation before i make a move. i never stay in the same country for longer than a year at a time so... rough decision. in the space of time ive been a posting member at macrumours, ive been in japan, canada, sweden and norway. contracts are not helpful at all. pay as you go would be great.

i guess canadians are expected to always stay there... all the time
 
eRondeau said:
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but there is a very good reason why Canadian rates are higher than American rates -- population density. We have a lot more area to cover, and a lot fewer people paying the bills. I don't know the exact numbers, but for the sake of argument -- in the USA there might be one cell tower for every 1,000 subscribers on average. In Canada there might be one cell tower for every 250 subscribers. Data is cheap, but towers are expensive, and Rogers has to make their Return on Investment somehow.
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Have you not seen the coverage maps of rogers/fido? It's a joke. Most of the country isn't covered last I saw. Coverage was only around major cities and surrounding areas. The actual coverage area in the United States is easily several times larger then the coverage area in Canada. Take a look for yourself.

Canada, last I remember, has a little more then 1/10th of the population of the United states. So unless someone can figure out the precise number of towers (or area covered) in Canada relative to the United States, we are all (including me) speculating really. I really do believe that Canadian cell phone companies are not suffering enough from the population/area ratio to justify the pricing discrepancy. The population in Canada is highly concentrated in few key areas.
 
Yvan256 said:
Actually if we talk purely about population density, I think Canada wins. Most of our population is near the Canada-USA border, while the americans are dispersed everywhere on their territory.

Of course, we're about 10 times smaller in terms of population, but since we probably don't even cover 1/10 of our own territory I think it evens out.

I'll also be waiting for new carriers, since Rogers' plans are too expensive and their network doesn't even cover my area.
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So if its about Density, we really win because in the cities and surrounding areas were 80-85% of people live the density is higher than much of the US. I mean its not like they have coverage in the arctic!
 
ipedro said:
I often switch my plan according to my needs and I've never been asked for a fee to do so. Very odd that you would.

Just today, I switched my BlackBerry $75 plan to a Mega30 Incoming plan in anticipation of getting an iPhone on Friday. Nobody asked me for any switch fee.

I just went back to my account page on Rogers.com and there are options to add and remove services. Go check for yourself.
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By the book, if you switch from a plan above $30 per month to a plan below $30 per month, you are automatically charged a $50 contract price downgrade fee.
[source: http://www.rogers.com/cms/html/iphone_terms.shtml ]

Additionally, if you are locked into a current price plan with X remaining months on the contract, and you choose to switch to a new plan whose total commitment is Y, where X is greater than Y, then you'll also be charged $20 * (X - Y) as a contract term downgrade fee, to a maximum of $200. You'll be locked in to the new plan for Y months from the date you make the change.
[source: http://rogers.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...mdyYWRpbmcgcHJpY2UgcGxhbnM*&p_li=&p_topview=1 ]

On the other hand, if you choose to upgrade to a new plan whose total duration is equal to or greater than the total duration of your previous plan, officially, Rogers' FAQ says that you can back-date the effective start date of the new contract to equal the start date of the original contract.
[source: http://rogers.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...mdyYWRpbmcgcHJpY2UgcGxhbnM*&p_li=&p_topview=1 ]

In practice, though, people have been complaining that Rogers often attempts to automatically set a brand new start date as soon as you commit to any changes in your price plan.
 
Chef Medeski said:
Yeah, I mean Montreal is four times more densely populated than New York City, the most densely populated city in US. So you are definitely right. And I think Vancouver and Toronto are right up there with Montreal. So if its about Density, we really win because in the cities and surrounding areas were 80-85% of people live the density is higher than much of the US. I mean its not like they have coverage in the arctic!
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What are you talking about?

NYC = 26,403/sq mi

Montreal = 11,496/sq mi
(wikipedia).
 
Chef Medeski said:
Yeah, I mean Montreal is four times more densely populated than New York City, the most densely populated city in US. So you are definitely right. And I think Vancouver and Toronto are right up there with Montreal. So if its about Density, we really win because in the cities and surrounding areas were 80-85% of people live the density is higher than much of the US. I mean its not like they have coverage in the arctic!
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As someone else pointed out, you really need to check your facts. Montreal is nowhere near as densely populated as NYC.

I've spent time in both cities, and Montreal's very nice and quiet (which is what I prefer) compared with NYC.
 
cancellation

what about cancellation fees? same as att where they confiscate the bloody phone?
 
RJones said:
2 Questions:

1) Can we get an iPhone without a data plan (only voice).

2) Can we get an iPhone without a data plan and have data disabled so that no data charges may be incurred.
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1) Yes, far as I know they will allow voice only plans with the iPhone.

2) Same as above and you can disable the Edge/3G on the iPhone so you don't get charged for data. Wifi will still be available for you.
 
queshy said:
What are you talking about?

NYC = 26,403/sq mi

Montreal = 11,496/sq mi
(wikipedia).
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PCMacUser said:
As someone else pointed out, you really need to check your facts. Montreal is nowhere near as densely populated as NYC.

I've spent time in both cities, and Montreal's very nice and quiet (which is what I prefer) compared with NYC.
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Haha.... whoops....just kidding!

yeah seems I dropped a magnitude. My bad. But still, to be half as densely populated as the most densely populated city in USA atleast proves that we are not that far.
 
Chef Medeski said:
Haha.... whoops....just kidding!

yeah seems I dropped a magnitude. My bad. But still, to be half as densely populated as the most densely populated city in USA atleast proves that we are not that far.
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it's ok! don't worry about it. And yes I agree - half as densely populated isn't THAT Far I guess. It's not like we live in the country or anything!
 
Chef Medeski said:
Haha.... whoops....just kidding!

yeah seems I dropped a magnitude. My bad. But still, to be half as densely populated as the most densely populated city in USA atleast proves that we are not that far.
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Yep I think you can safely say it qualifies as a real city. :)

I liked it a lot when I visited a few years ago for New Years' celebrations - I'd even consider moving there in the future.
 
This Doesn't Fix Things

Get this.... They're just doing damage control.... there intention is to give what people want at the beginning to shut them up.... then they will go on to screw people over after the promotion



John Boynton, the senior vice-president and chief marketing officer of Rogers Wireless, commented on the tens of thousands of people that have taken a stand on cell phone prices. (in reference to their new improved limited time $30 plan)

“What we’re trying to do is satisfy a very small group of people, the early adopters,” he said. “When those customers are done, we’re back to our basic user.”

(Source: http://www.thestar.com/article/457180)
 
I'd like a data only plan ...

30 bucks for 6gb is a good price! 6GB is alot of data to view on a couple square inch screen! :)

id like to see other contract lengths and pricing point myself, definately progress !
 
K...im all confused with the min.!!!
Rogers "Mega Incoming 25" plan includes:

-100 WD min.
-1000 WE min.
-500 incoming min.

I think its safe to say that those 100 and 1000 min. are for local calling only..right?

Now what about those 500 incoming min.? Are those for long-distance incoming calls? I would think so since I THINK local incoming calls are free?!

Please, someone help me...

Im new to this...obviously...
 
lmps56 said:
K...im all confused with the min.!!!
Rogers "Mega Incoming 25" plan includes:

-100 WD min.
-1000 WE min.
-500 incoming min.

I think its safe to say that those 100 and 1000 min. are for local calling only..right?

Now what about those 500 incoming min.? Are those for long-distance incoming calls? I would think so since I THINK local incoming calls are free?!

Please, someone help me...

Im new to this...obviously...
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In Canada, all incoming calls to cell phones are generally charged against your plan's overall minutes, unless you have a special plan that separates incoming and outgoing calls into two separate bins (such as this one), or other special cases such as plans that offer deals on local and/or long distance "in-network" calling.

With most Rogers plans, (but I don't know about their dedicated incoming plans specifically) if you are physically located inside your home calling area, all incoming calls (regardless of the location of the originator) are charged at the "local" rate. If you roam outside your local calling area, all incoming calls (regardless of the location of the originator) are charged at the "long distance" rate.
 
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