Well, now they do again.That would make a kick-a server! ... if Apple still had a ... server.
As they showed in the keynote, it will be rack-mountable.
PS: sorry, slow to realize that you probably meant software-wise
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As they showed in the keynote, it will be rack-mountable.
PS: sorry, slow to realize that you probably meant software-wise
Well, when thinking Apple pricing, one has to submit to loosing all sense of logic nowadays.
Trying to grasp the logic between the sum of the functionality of the parts of a Mac Pro setup and its respective budget will blow our minds just like the pricing of the iPhone Pro - Sorry - XS Max.
Also, the relative portability of the iMac Pro is not to be underestimated in the comparison.
is this what we're classing as pro now?
Nobody said cheaper monitors can’t be used. Proper are talking (at least I am) about THIS monitor, and how it’s sold.
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My law firm uses billing and case management software costing tens of thousands of dollars. We don’t bat an eye paying it.
You know what’s not sexy and drool worthy? Billing software.
Then get a beige box. HP, Lenovo, Dell, all have decent workstation machines. No point in harping at Apple who clearly has a different vision on what they want to make than the cheap beige box you wanted.
It’s like complaining to Ferrari to no end for them to make a $20k family car.
Actually, power and upgradeability were the main concerns and so far no one said it isn’t upgradable. I guess we will have to wait and see...
I work in audio post production. Usually a big mixing stage for feature films runs with at least four cMPs or nMPs. With the 7,1 one or maybe two machines would suffice to run the show. If I remember the keynote correctly one 7,1 can take up to six avid HDX cards.
For the price of four nMP (12C) one will most likely get one or two of these nice machines. Also, the nMP (6,1) needs expansion chassis from sonnet for the HDX cards which have to be put into the calculation as well.
I can see that for smaller studios the price might be beyond reasonable. But then the question is again if the amount of power the 7,1 offers is actually needed.
For the price of four nMP (12C) one will most likely get one or two of these nice machines. Also, the nMP (6,1) needs expansion chassis from sonnet for the HDX cards which have to be put into the calculation as well.
I can see that for smaller studios the price might be beyond reasonable. But then the question is again if the amount of power the 7,1 offers is actually needed.
Then get those. What’s the point of whining to Apple when you already know they don’t make what you want? It’s been the case since the original Pro lineup that Jobs put way back when.
Everyone: "We want a modular Mac Pro that's easily upgradable and powerful!"
Apple: "Here you go!"
Everyone: "Waaah, Apple doesn't care about the pros!"
Apple: "Here you go!"
Everyone: "Waaah, Apple doesn't care about the pros!"
Maybe this is their way to payback for the lack or enthusiasm for the trash can? They did lose a lot of cash on that machine. The pricing almost seems mean...
They are pro users creating pro content that earns money, so yes they are. Many popular YouTubers have a team of people putting their content together.
OK, so tell me what I should buy then, since I am up for a replacement of my machines. The Mac Pro is way too expensive, yet I need a multi-monitor solution with expandability and upgradability as well as decent performance? Exactly, Apple has nothing to offer there since years. The last computer falling into that category was the old cheese crater design before the urn. That is 6 years ago now. This is getting really ridiculous. Of course everybody wanted a real pro machine. But pro doesn't mean that everybody is doing high-end video editing who is a pro. I was hoping that they would offer a decently priced entry model starting at around 3k. Of course they didn't... If I have to configure the new Mac Pro to fit my business needs, I will probably end up between 10-15k, knowing Apple's pricing philosophy. A workstation at this price-point I can't justify in regards to my cost-structure. Clients just don't pay as much anymore as compared to 10 or 20 years ago. I am always pinching myself when people are stating that a machine like this would amortise themselves within 1 or 2 jobs. Even if that does exist, we are talking about a very, very small part of the market. So no Apple Hardware for me in the future anymore. After more than 30 years... Sometimes you just have to let go.
It is pretty insane. It's a chunk of aluminum. No way did it cost even an eight h of that to manufacture. These prices seem punitive.
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Judging by the stand, probably $500 a piece.
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Or a Pixar machine? But Renderman doesn't run on macOS, right?
I'm glad I'm a webdeveloper and don't need this much power. I'll wait for a redesigned ~€3.000 iMac.
I approve of the new MacPro and will definitely be buying one in the future. Not sure what to do with my MacPro (Late 2013). The new machine looks great. When I think that we paid nearly $10,000 for a fully loaded Mac II (16Mhz 68020) with Apple Color Display (8-bit) over 20 years ago, it makes the new Mac Pro look like an absolute bargain. Good Job!
I mean, you can trick out an iMac and add multiple monitors. You can pick up a higher end Mac Mini and add an EGPU plus multiple monitors. You can do the same with a MacBook Pro. Are there zero Apple machines that will fit your use case?
If it's beyond your budget, don't buy it.
I don't resent Bugatti (or post in forums) because they priced their products way out of my price range.
Embrace the cheese grater design. It's very cool looking.
I don’t resent anyone. This is a forum for comments. Is it your position no criticism of these products is allowed? Nobody is allowed to criticize Apple for charging extra for a monitor stand? Are we only allowed to post positive comments? Are we even allowed to have opinions, or only opinions approved by you?
What in the Hell are you even talking about?
Yes, there needs to be a less expensive base model - one that could be built upon. This incarnation is overkill from the get go - which is fine, just wish there was one a grand or so cheaper to start.
The closeups give it a very interesting look. It's like a ball indentation, with three stringers tied to the front. Cleaning it is going to be fun in dusty (just about all are) environments. It almost looks retro, in a cheese grater way...
I think the display’s price is the most justified. Not like the stand’s and the pretty weak base model’s price.
The pricing is probably going to make 'server farms' harder to pull off with this system. Not that I'm familiar with them, but to spend over 6k for each node, how much can studios spend to get 200 of these for a farm? Will Apple provide 'volume discounts' for big purchasers? And more than $100 off for each unit?
But, who knows what the future holds. It out there now, waiting for fall to ship could be a mistake, but at least I know I'll never have one.
Anyone got a 'trash can' they want to get rid of?
But, who knows what the future holds. It out there now, waiting for fall to ship could be a mistake, but at least I know I'll never have one.
Anyone got a 'trash can' they want to get rid of?