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I want this chunky 10.9" iPad Pro, and I want it to have an overhauled version of iOS that is custom tailored for professionals with beastly hardware to match. I want something that would be an excellent complement to a new iMac, with first party support to use it as an external display for drawing on the Mac as well as a Touch Bar. There are apps that help do this, but I think if Apple tried it, they could do a better job of tightly integrating the two.
I want the same and am ready for a new iMac too. But I'm afraid I've to look elsewhere because even the slightest bit of hope Apple seems to ruin these days :( I'm tired of the never ending pipeline.
 
Except when we're using it for photo editing, word processing, coding (without compilers unfortunately), note taking, music editing, drawing, watching movies, etc.

Which is really great on a 9.7 or 12 inch screen. Or at least it was in 1987.
 
I use the 12.9" iPad Pro daily. It's just such a great machine.

I am hoping this new 10nm chip will be as fast as the slower Mac Pro's shipping now. If it's the case - I expect that within two years Mac's will be shipping with an A series processor. 10nm should really help with power consumption/battery life. They may avoid the inconsistent battery life they currently are having with MacBook Pro.

I think by the time they planned on announcing the new iPad's, chip yields will be just fine.

One other thing - I'm really looking forward to an iOS iPad specific upgrade when these are released!
 
Is it worth to upgrade to an 12.9 iPad Pro if Apple won't release an new iPad Pro model in March ?

I am asking that because I will have the opportunity to upgrade in March and I really want an 12.9 iPad ! Is it make sense to buy an iPad Pro 12.9 in March 2017??
 
How does it feel to live in a bubble? Do you get enough air in there? Apparently not.

Just because your use case for an iPad is as an internet consumption device, it doesn't mean that that's true for every other person.

I use my iPad Pro as my primary computer in my work as a photographer. I shoot RAW photos, upload them to Lightroom and then edit directly on the screen of my iPad Pro 12.9". I push it to its limit and so yes, give me something even more powerful.
Cool im so glad you push your iPad to the limit :rolleyes: Most people just flip through the internet.
 
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By the time the world would rewrite the last 50 years of software to run on it, tablets and iOS will be as outdated and obsolete as the mainframe sitting in our basement.

some of it is just too difficult and costly to reconfigure for tablet computing. Even Apple themselves, after doing all the work it takes to try, admitted they couldn't figure out how to get a version of OSX on a tablet that's not a poor UX. I hate using a typewriter to interact with a computer, more than anyone, but iOS is not poised to take over the future of computing.
Gimme your prediction for computing 50 years from now. Just as a fun thought experiment
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Is it worth to upgrade to an 12.9 iPad Pro if Apple won't release an new iPad Pro model in March ?

I am asking that because I will have the opportunity to upgrade in March and I really want an 12.9 iPad ! Is it make sense to buy an iPad Pro 12.9 in March 2017??
Dude...as someone typing on a 12.9 right now, DO IT ASAP. Even if the pro 2 releases in march, it won't be a substantial upgrade. One gen to the next is always so minimal people with the last gen don't care to update. It'll just be a minor spec bump. But my 12.9 right now? Has totally replaced my laptop and every other computer. If I had the option of getting it a few months sooner and having those months of happiness using it, I would have just gotten it sooner.
 
I want the same and am ready for a new iMac too. But I'm afraid I've to look elsewhere because even the slightest bit of hope Apple seems to ruin these days :( I'm tired of the never ending pipeline.
Yeah it's getting to be exhausting. I long for a professional solution that seamlessly integrates between an ultra mobile tablet and a sleek yet powerful desktop.
 
Exactly, and those people do not need computer, and the iPad is perfect. It's the iPad Pro that is a solution to a problem that does not exist, it can be talked up all people want, it cannot replace a computer.

So using jobs analogy people keep referencing , iPad = car, PC = truck and iPad Pro might as well be a SUV... an over glorified car that kinda looks like a truck but is for all purposes useless as a truck. :)

Or maybe it's just that for those people, their needs cannot be met with a conventional PC.

I don't see why it's considered so taboo to admit that a PC is not a perfect fit for 100% of PC users out there, and that for these people, the iPad might meet their needs better.
 
The iPad could indeed replace a laptop for 95% of casual users if it had a more comprehensive OS.

As it stands, iOS is mainly conceived for content consumption (which is perfect for), but the moment you try to embed a few excel sheets or files into a slide presentation and whatnot, the iPad becomes a painfully limiting device. Not to mention needing a proper file navigation system...

The hardware is perfectly capable of becoming a laptop replacement for most people. The OS is not. In order to truly become a household laptop replacement, the iPad Pro needs iOS Pro.

To me, the allure of the iPad is precisely that it doesn't try too hard to replicate a PC. I still have a Mac for the 20% of tasks I can't get done on an iPad, but for the rest, I am content to accomplish them on ios precisely because the user experience is just so much more fluid and intuitive (for me).

I agree the iPad OS needs more features, but I disagree the solution is to make it more like a Mac. Still on the fence about needing a central file management system though.
 
Perhaps not slide presentations, but spreadsheets (Excel or Numbers), is so common in budgeting households.
iOS needs help in simplifying the way one adds attachment to emails.

You have been able to add attachments to emails since iOS 8.

If you want to budget for a household, there are so many apps you can download and use for said purpose. Is there some reason you must stick with excel instead of a native iOS app optimised for touch and direct input?

I swear - so many things that people complain can't be done (or done easily) on iOS appears to be precisely because they haven't tried to figure out an equivalent or superior alternative.
 
At this point I really have to say this. Advancement of chips should no longer be the priority. Sure it still needs to happen to make things faster and thinner for Jony. Still, the thing holding back the iPads imho is the OS and software. Tim thinks that it is a laptop replacement already, and I think (as I have said) that for 70-80 percent of what most people do, maybe that's true. Still, when there are significant difference between the software (including those produced by Apple) between macOS and iOS, then there is still a significant gap to close.

I agree. One major gap is working on spreadsheets.

Back in the day, the spreadsheet was the killer app that made personal computers relevant. Even today, they are necessary for most office workers' day to day business activity. Without a pointing device (e.g. mouse), iPads are still suboptimal for working on spreadsheets. You can do it, but it can get real awkward if you are working on something even mildly complex.
 
I agree. One major gap is working on spreadsheets.

Back in the day, the spreadsheet was the killer app that made personal computers relevant. Even today, they are necessary for most office workers' day to day business activity. Without a pointing device (e.g. mouse), iPads are still suboptimal for working on spreadsheets. You can do it, but it can get real awkward if you are working on something even mildly complex.

I agree. But I feel the solution should be to reimagine the layout and interface of a spreadsheet for a mobile device that doesn't have a pointing device. Not try to make the iPad more like a laptop in that regard.

To take a step further, ask yourself - what are using the spreadsheet for? More often than not, there will be a custom iOS app which lets you get that job done better than a conventional spreadsheet program.

For example, I am using Airtable on my iPhone and iPad, and I find that it has a better mobile interface which makes referencing and retrieving data from my mobile devices much easier.

I do concede that this really only works for personal use though. In an office setting, it is not going to be realistic to expect everyone to ditch excel just because you want to be able to work from your iPad more easily.
 
Is it worth to upgrade to an 12.9 iPad Pro if Apple won't release an new iPad Pro model in March ?

I am asking that because I will have the opportunity to upgrade in March and I really want an 12.9 iPad ! Is it make sense to buy an iPad Pro 12.9 in March 2017??

If we're talking waiting til April - then wait. Faster processor, better color, trutone, 3D Touch. To me it's a no brained. You'll use it for years.
 
To me, the allure of the iPad is precisely that it doesn't try too hard to replicate a PC. I still have a Mac for the 20% of tasks I can't get done on an iPad, but for the rest, I am content to accomplish them on ios.

And this is precisely why the iPad is NOT a laptop replacement. There are still many common uses that just cannot be performed comfortably on iOS.

I repeat what I said in a previous post: in order for the iPad Pro to truly become a laptop replacement, it needs iOS Pro.
 
Some day in the future, we will look back at posts like this and laugh.

I'll laugh right now and just say you can have fun using your iPad for "work".

If you have an iPad pro, it's natural to feel this way. You gotta justify your purchase somehow.
 
And this is precisely why the iPad is NOT a laptop replacement. There are some common uses that just cannot be performed comfortably on iOS.

I repeat what I said in a previous post: in order for the iPad Pro to truly become a laptop replacement, it needs iOS Pro.

You missed my point. I stated previously that I don't want the iPad Pro to become a laptop replacement, especially if it means becoming more like Mac OS.

I am not sure what you mean by iOS pro either.
 
I'll laugh right now and just say you can have fun using your iPad for "work".

If you have an iPad pro, it's natural to feel this way. You gotta justify your purchase somehow.

You clearly haven't been following my posts clearly enough then. I have given lots of examples of now I have been using my iPad in my work as a teacher. The things I do with it, such as walking around the classroom with my iPad mirrored via my Apple TV while annotating on PDF documents with my Apple Pencil, can't be done on a conventional Mac.

Conversely, it's my MacBook Air purchase I have to justify, considering there are days when I don't boot up my Macs for days on end, because I am able to get my work and entertainment fix from my 9.7" iPad Pro. It's really there for the remaining 20% of stuff I can't get done on my iPad (or get done as comfortably).
 
TSMC reportedly will also manufacture Apple's A11 chips for use in the iPhone 8 with volume production scheduled to kick off in the second quarter of 2017, the sources said.

Let's look forward to the second quarter if they can even keep up with the schedule.
 
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