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A quick look at the back of an iMac disproves this:

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So what, that doesn't mean you can change your HD to an SSD without busting the warranty. You can't change your graphics card at all. You can't upgrade anything besides RAM.

And even if you dropped thousands on some ridiculously priced Thunderbolt attachement you'd have so many attachements and wires right in front of your face it's ridiculous. Basically ruins the point of an all in one.
 
MacPro and the like is the best desktop solution, and will always be, and Apple could've made it like an iMac easily, sell it like $2000 including monitor, use the "normal" components instead of godly heavenly Xeon, but in reality they keep their MacPro price sky high, hardware is outdated and most likely abandoned. Headless iMac or consumer-grade MacPro would sell like crazy if it does exist.

I agree. They can kill Mac Pro. But merge it with Mac Mini lineup:

Mac Mini - for entry level (keep form factor)

Biggie Mac - for gamers & casual photoshoppers (thicker than current Mini, kinda like those Western Digital 6TB external HDD)

Maxi Mac - badass pro solution for 4K video editing (significantly smaller than current Mac Pro box)
 
I agree. They can kill Mac Pro. But merge it with Mac Mini lineup:

Mac Mini - for entry level (keep form factor)

Biggie Mac - for gamers & casual photoshoppers (thicker than current Mini, kinda like those Western Digital 6TB external HDD)

Maxi Mac - badass pro solution for 4K video editing (significantly smaller than current Mac Pro box)

I like the idea of a consumer grade Mac Pro, but never though Apple would do it because it would take sales away from the iMac. But then Apple said they were not worrying about the iPad stealing MacBook sales as it was stealing a lot more from the opposition. There is at least a glimmer of hope.

But I don't want any merging of the Mac Mini and Mac Pro. They are very different propositions beyond just price and power. The ability to easily replace components is an important aspect of the Mac Pro. I hope that capability stays within the Mac range. Either through a good update to the Mac Pro, or the creation of a Mac Prosumer. Preferably both.
 
I'd like a new professional iMac that can replace the abandoned MacPro, but it should be more expandable, with access from back side, three accessible slot for disk drives on 27" and two on 23", plus one blade ssd, a standard with fixed size heatsink mxm video card, and a best model with lga2011 platform with 6 so-dimm for up to 48GB and up to three external displays. This thing can replace the MacPro, not the actual toys.
 
I agree. They can kill Mac Pro. But merge it with Mac Mini lineup:

Mac Mini - for entry level (keep form factor)

Biggie Mac - for gamers & casual photoshoppers (thicker than current Mini, kinda like those Western Digital 6TB external HDD)

Maxi Mac - badass pro solution for 4K video editing (significantly smaller than current Mac Pro box)

There was a time when your Biggie Mac exsisted.
 

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Yeah, and by letting go ODD on the new iMac, do you think Apple would reduce the price point of those iMac? They should reduce each iMac price point for as much as $70 but I highly doubt that.

With OSX Lion, all Mac products no longer come with OSX installation DVD, instead Apple steal a bit more of your HDD space for Recovery. Wow.. There should be a price reduction and compensation for that.

And don't you find it ironic? Same iMac (except the upgraded innards, of course), same price point, no ODD but you're still gonna buy it anyway? And when you suddenly needs ODD you're simply recommend to throw extra $70 for Apple external SuperDrive. While last year every iMac have a SuperDrive installed for no additional cost. Wow! Problem solved ... for much wasted and unnecessary extra expense

Honestly I don't think Apple would lower the price if they removed the ODD, so I think you'd be right on that. But I was merely addressing the issue at hand, and it really does still in fact, solve the problem. Play/burn CDs? Solution: Buy super drive. Dishing out $70 may present a new financial problem for the buyer, but I didn't mean to talk about budget concerns.

And take a look at the Mac Mini. No ODD, same price point at $599 before and after removing the ODD (let's just forget the moment where they raised the price to $699 one generation). I don't see a mass amount of people complaining and I don't think Mini sales are suffering either. My favorite part is that Apple substituted this loss with BTO for a discreet graphics card and dual drives. And I see that as a huge benefit for consumers who want more options: making room for more essential components that can only be installed internally. If they did the same with the iMac and gave users more build to order options at the same price point, I think it will be just fine.
 
I'd like a new professional iMac that can replace the abandoned MacPro, but it should be more expandable, with access from back side, three accessible slot for disk drives on 27" and two on 23", plus one blade ssd, a standard with fixed size heatsink mxm video card, and a best model with lga2011 platform with 6 so-dimm for up to 48GB and up to three external displays. This thing can replace the MacPro, not the actual toys.

This should have ALWAYS been available, seems apple dont want you to do any upgrades(apart from ram) without going through them.
Shame really it would have been so easy to make adding an ssd to an imac via a back "hatch".
 
There was a time when your Biggie Mac exsisted.

That Power Mac G4 does look nice. Imagine that in black and aluminium to fit in with the current Macs and it would look amazing.

The iMac G4 is my favourite Mac design. That was a good hardware generation to be around.
 
Quad core MBPs already exist. I'm typing on one.

I think what he's asking is if the Quad Core model is coming at the end of April, with the chips that are being released.

I think he knows that the Quad already exists...the article discusses that the quad core mobile chips are releasing first.
 
This should have ALWAYS been available, seems apple dont want you to do any upgrades(apart from ram) without going through them.
Shame really it would have been so easy to make adding an ssd to an imac via a back "hatch".

I know, but this was for not cannibalize MacPro, now that MacPro is quite dead, they could make a more professional iMac. But I know it's hard to go in that direction after 2011 revision with proprietary hard drives, now the iMac is the less professional machine, it is under macmini and macbookair. It's like a toy.
 
I know, but this was for not cannibalize MacPro, now that MacPro is quite dead, they could make a more professional iMac. But I know it's hard to go in that direction after 2011 revision with proprietary hard drives, now the iMac is the less professional machine, it is under macmini and macbookair. It's like a toy.

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21.5" low end iMac with SSD will destroy both MBA and Mac Mini any time, any configuration. It is the iMac that could make both looks like toy. So I don't really understand what you meant by "under".

If you mean iMac upgradeability is under MBA and Mac Mini, well you're not quite again, iMac still warrant RAM upgradeability, and so does Mac Mini, but MBA is non upgradeable at all (except for the unofficial SSD upgrade).

If you mean iMac sales number is under MBA and Mac Mini, well you're most likely right, doesn't mean it's not a better machine though.
 
That Power Mac G4 does look nice. Imagine that in black and aluminium to fit in with the current Macs and it would look amazing.

The iMac G4 is my favourite Mac design. That was a good hardware generation to be around.

Yup, the G4 era was the best time to be a Mac user, probably more than now! It was more than possible to go from 8.6 to 10.5 on the same hardware with just a small processor upgrade and there were literally hundreds of CPU upgrades to choose from.
The hardware was sexy and cheap, the upgrades was almost endless, the iPods were starting to put themselves out there, and we got support from Apple long after our hardware had been issued.

Tiger came out in 2005 thats 6 years after my 500MHz G4 came out and it was wonderful. It was by far the best release of OS X as it literally got as much computing power as possible from the hardware it was on AND the new features it came with were the icing on the cake.

I can't say the same for Lion or it's big brother Mountain Lion who don't want anything to do with hardware more than 4 years old.
 
Admittedly my 2011 MBA is my first foray into the world of all things Mac. With that said, I feel like some people want a redesign for the iMac for the sake of having a redesign. IMHO the iMac is the BEST looking All-in-One on the market. Now, AIOs aren't meant to be upgradable, and that's fine. For the majority of folks, the guts of an iMac is just fine.

In an ideal world we would all get our Biggie Mac that consists of an IVB processor, 8GB's ram, GeForce GTX 680, SSD, for about $1699 but I doubt they'll ever do that. Of course, if they did create something like this then it would be popular with the amateur artists/gaming community who love Mac.

Just an idea. :apple:
 
Admittedly my 2011 MBA is my first foray into the world of all things Mac. With that said, I feel like some people want a redesign for the iMac for the sake of having a redesign. IMHO the iMac is the BEST looking All-in-One on the market. Now, AIOs aren't meant to be upgradable, and that's fine. For the majority of folks, the guts of an iMac is just fine.

In an ideal world we would all get our Biggie Mac that consists of an IVB processor, 8GB's ram, GeForce GTX 680, SSD, for about $1699 but I doubt they'll ever do that. Of course, if they did create something like this then it would be popular with the amateur artists/gaming community who love Mac.

Just an idea. :apple:

A lot of people who know the specs that well, or well enough, are competent enough to know how to take an existing PC with those specs and install OS X on it anyway, a la hackintosh.
 
I think what he's asking is if the Quad Core model is coming at the end of April, with the chips that are being released.

I think he knows that the Quad already exists...the article discusses that the quad core mobile chips are releasing first.

That's what I mean. I am ready for buying a new MacBook pro 15" at the end of April or early May, so I would like to ask whether I should wait or not.
 
While I just purchased an iMac in October if this update is leaps and bounds better I think I will have to have one. Lucky for me my brother is looking to replace his desktop in the near future, I think I see a buyer lol
 
Macpro isn't dead yet. There has been NO announcement . It's not over till its over.

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No way man. That's gorgeous! I had one of these. What a beautiful design.

From the pow of all my customers, MacPro is dead right now, cause its price went up and up over the years, I think 2009-2010 is its death date.

Now we are selling MacPro's in the same amount of xServes we were selling three years ago, so I think the course of macpro and xserve are the same.
 
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