I agree that the iPhone needs to be moved back to a June release...phone definitely should be a summer product.
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I agree that the iPhone needs to be moved back to a June release...phone definitely should be a summer product.
Okay, that way makes more sense. iMac isn't really a best desktop solution, but it's the best that Apple could come up with. Price-wise I admit iMac have the best value of all Mac computers.
But ...
MacPro and the like is the best desktop solution, and will always be, and Apple could've made it like an iMac easily, sell it like $2000 including monitor, use the "normal" components instead of godly heavenly Xeon, but in reality they keep their MacPro price sky high, hardware is outdated and most likely abandoned. But my point was doesn't mean it wouldn't sell well if Apple done something wise about MacPro. Headless iMac or consumer-grade MacPro would sell like crazy if it does exist.
I'm quite happy with my Mac Mini
It was a little pokey at first, but then I just upgraded the RAM. I've done desktop publishing, 3D animation, App Development and Web Development from the cute little box. I don't feel a need to upgrade right now... and I got a 2009 model.
Thats exactly what i'm going for. Got my new iPad on lunch day and now waiting for the new iMac. For me and I suspect many people this combination should cater for most users. Since I brought the iPad I have barely used my old Sony Vaio laptop. The shear speed and ease of use of the iPad for basic tasks like email and web browsing is great and the battery life is supurb (Sony will not even start on battery since 1 year old). I can not however see the iPad as a replacement for a desktop or laptop as it simply cannot do everything that most end users require, i.e. Photo, video music editing and storage etc. I could see some people could also have a MBP or MBA in the setup as I think these products compliment each other rather well (if you have the $ of course)
IMO the iMac is a gorgeous looking machine as it is and it's powerfull enough for my intended use. I do agree that at least the memory and hard drives should be easily upgradable/replacable however.
On the waiting side of things, I like to buy at the beginning of the product cycle as that way when the eventual new model is out at least you have had a year or so of usage. I will also likely only look to upgrade a desktop machine every 3-4 years. To that end I feel this represents the best value.
Just get the Apple external superdrive and you'll be good to go.
Problem. Solved.
Yeah, and by letting go ODD on the new iMac, do you think Apple would reduce the price point of those iMac? They should reduce each iMac price point for as much as $70 but I highly doubt that.
With OSX Lion, all Mac products no longer come with OSX installation DVD, instead Apple steal a bit more of your HDD space for Recovery. Wow.. There should be a price reduction and compensation for that.
And don't you find it ironic? Same iMac (except the upgraded innards, of course), same price point, no ODD but you're still gonna buy it anyway? And when you suddenly needs ODD you're simply recommend to throw extra $70 for Apple external SuperDrive. While last year every iMac have a SuperDrive installed for no additional cost. Wow! Problem solved ... for much wasted and unnecessary extra expense
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Who says it's as easy as just "adding a door" to make parts accessible from the outside? I highly doubt it's that easy.
Maybe because the news is about iMac. You know, some people more fond of iMac instead Macbook Pro because it's not just as powerful and some other reasons.
Plus Macbook Pro will also updated, so you can always search news and thread about Macbook Pro 2012 update and bring your rant there
Yeah ... talking about lame maybe you should look in the mirror .. and think
With the removal of the ODD, you are getting either
1) More SSD or HD space
2) Better Graphics Card
3) Slimmer factor
4) All the above
I'll take all 3 for the same price point.
Besides Ivy Bridge, some slightly more current Nvidia/AMD GPU, and probably USB 3.0, the update more than likely won't be too enticing. I doubt any sort of redesign would make an appearance. But the performance upgrade should be pretty sweet, and anyone with a C2D machine or older would probably find the update vastly beneficial (especially with an upgraded or standard SSD).
I think it'd be a neat move to nix the ODD, put an SSD there as the boot drive, and keep the 1TB as a storage device. Then when doing a BTO, having the options to upgrade the SSD, upgrade the standard HDD, upgrading both, or possibly going with two SSDs and RAIDing them. Obviously you can already do most of this and still have an ODD, but for it to be standard to begin with would be nice. I'd take an SSD over an ODD any day of the week.
Anti-reflective screen would be cool, but I don't particularly have any issues with mine, besides seeing my ugly face when it's off
Wireless charging for the mouse and keyboard would be very forward thinking, especially if they made it compatible with the next iPhone.
Oh, and having a backlit keyboard (which certainly seems unnecessary to most people sure) would be a nice addition. Not particularly needed, but hey, why not? (Especially if charging was as easy as putting the keyboard on the stand or under the chin)
^ This. I too could drop the ODD for a 3rd HDD. Haven't used mine for a while. I'd like a backlit keyboard too - sometimes it's better with the lights off. Looks like I'll be upgrading my 24" C2D when the revision hits.
I voted up..... think of me as one of the few members on this forum that isnt an irrational obsessed apple fanboy.
Agreed. But it still generated numerous page clicks and several pages of comments.
MR's till is ker-chinging away!
If Apple drops the ODD from the iMac, it won't be the only change. Different form factor, different options, better specs will also likely be part of the package. Even if the starting price is lower, you won't know if it's because of them leaving out the ODD. But if it makes you feel better, when the Mac Mini was refreshed (and lost the ODD), the starting price was dropped by $100.
You seem to have a persecution complex about this being how Apple steals your money. You really don't have to buy, if that's how you feel.
For me, losing the ODD sounds like a great idea. I'll probably buy an external one with my next Mac, but here's the really cool part: I'll only buy ONE external ODD. Right now, I have three Macs, and each has an ODD built in. I use it very occasionally, but it's a total waste to have one on every machine all the time, sitting idle and taking up space. One external drive that I could plug into the machine that needs it when I need it would be ideal.
If dumping the ODD means iMac could have a GPU that has no "M" suffix, then I'd welcome it happily. Using a mobile GPU inside the iMac is one of a few things that bugs me about the product. And unfortunately that happens due to room limitation inside the iMac. Fine, remove the ODD for this then.
But then again, seeing from Apple's habit, there's a little chance for that. If they remove ODD is because of these reasons:
1. They'd like to make it thinner, maybe a bit lighter, which is ridiculous. iMac is already thin as it is and it's not a portable machine, what's the purpose of making it thinner and lighter?
2. They wanna to lock you up even further to Mac AppStore, iCloud and iTunes Store for apps and multimedia consumption. No ODD means one less external source for software, music, movies and documents. Well you can still go with external ODD/HDD but that's a hassle and one more precious USB port being wasted for the purpose. Nice practice
So ...
I can't see Apple move to a desktop GPU on the iMac, no ODD and thinner dimension is just a impasse trade off, no room for hardware improvement. Plus desktop GPU means more electricity power. Oh yeah, you know Apple very well, it does not like unnecessary power consumption increase, they wanna go thinner, and runs less or at least equal power.
In short, I wouldn't trade off my ODD if it's just for making it thinner. Why would you want a more thinned out desktop that already thin? But if it means a possibility of desktop GPU, accessible 3rd HDD/SSD bay .. well that's worth it very much.
This http://www2.pcmag.com/media/images/79151-imac-g5-inside.jpg was a well designed iMac. Who cares about thickness on a desktop machine, where the effective area is the base stand? But I doubt they will ever go down to this kind of design, after disks went unrepleacable because of prorietary firmware...
Now they absolutely prefer design and money, over usability and quality.
Now they absolutely prefer design and money, over usability and quality.
Any ideas about the upcoming display? I am currently using a MacBook pro 17 inch and my display is really brilliant. I want to switch back to IMac, but if the resolution will not be upgraded, I will buy a MacBook again. I don't mean / want a retina display, just one with higher resolution... What do you think? Any chance for it?
I agree desktop (either iMac or for those that need it Mac pro) and iPad is a perfect solution for lots of people. I have a dell laptop which I never use. It was bought before I had the iPad for browsing and emails etc. since I had the iPad I can never be bothered to charge it up ( and deal with all the annoying OS and antivirus updates). I think I'll donate it to my dad who will get more use out of it. I would prefer if the odd stayed in the iMac but agree I probably won't use it all that often. I just hope it's this month not next as I hate all this waiting.
There are other good reasons to wait after the purchase time. If you can hold off for a little while, hard drives and ram will be cheaper. Upgraded my wife's 2010 MacBook's RAM a few months later from 2GB to 4GB for $40, and the 250GB hard drive with a 1TB hard drive for $120 a year later (but before the disaster). Apple would have charged me more than the cost of both upgrades when I bought the computer for the RAM alone! You have more options than Apple gives you as well. Apple doesn't have a 1TB notebook hard drive option for notebooks even now. There's also a satisfaction in watching your good old computer perform better than it ever has.
It's a shame that the iMac hard drives aren't user upgradable really. I can live with not being able to upgrade everything else.
I would like to see a new imac but with some options for upgrading memory, hds and ssd etc. If they discontinue the mac pro then this becomes a necessity.