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Think about the poor old Mac Pro

It's discouraging to see the Mac Pro left out of the picture once again. Why couldn't Apple at least bother to bring out a revision with an added SATA port? It used to be that high-end professional users were a core part of Apple's user base. Nowadays it's almost as if Apple has forgotten they exist.
 
hmmmm.....

well i am just thinking here,but i agree with other posters and i think there may be some new goodies for us :D just thinki about it M$ is launching w7 and hmm dont we all know apple inc enjoys stealing the bog redmond thunder lol

btw i am getting my w7 this week only paid $30 :rolleyes:


WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE :apple:

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Hi guys, I don't know if it's been said yet, but I was in Amsterdam over the weekend and their big Apple store said they didn't have any Mighty Mice, nor any Apple In Earphones.

The manager said it's been like that for weeks/months, so he thinks by this month new gear is coming in. So let's hope :) :apple:

Two things:
1. Amsterdam doesn't have a retail store, just resellers.
2. They had dozens of Mighty Mice in stock at Regent Street, London last Wednesday.
 
It's discouraging to see the Mac Pro left out of the picture once again. Why couldn't Apple at least bother to bring out a revision with an added SATA port? It used to be that high-end professional users were a core part of Apple's user base. Nowadays it's almost as if Apple has forgotten they exist.
External SATA (eSATA) will probably be a temporary solution until USB3 arrives next year. In any case, eSATA PCIe cards are dirt cheap and I purchased one for about $30 last year for my 1st generation Mac Pro. It's just as fast as the internal SATA and I've gotten over 100MB/s transfers using it and a BlacX SATA dock.

What Apple really needs to do is to work with some of the SATA chip providers to add built-in support for external SATA within Mac OS X. This is needed so that you can boot from external SATA. Thus, Apple doesn't need to add eSATA hardware to the Mac Pro, they just need to offer better software support for the eSATA drivers/kexts.
 
What Apple really needs to do is to work with some of the SATA chip providers to add built-in support for external SATA within Mac OS X. This is needed so that you can boot from external SATA. Thus, Apple doesn't need to add eSATA hardware to the Mac Pro, they just need to offer better software support for the eSATA drivers/kexts.

I can boot from eSATA on my hackintosh and on my Macbook Pro What I cannot do is hot swap eSATA disks, but this may be a bios/firmware limitation on my setups. Support is definitely there for booting.
 
Two things:
1. Amsterdam doesn't have a retail store, just resellers.
2. They had dozens of Mighty Mice in stock at Regent Street, London last Wednesday.

1. Yea reseller is what I meant
2. He said no new stock/deliveries, I don't know if Regent Street had dozens in stock, or if they got a delivery of new mice; I guess that's the question to answer
 
Of course, even if Apple does release new iMacs tomorrow / next week, the obvious question will be whether it's worth buying this new one or waiting for the newer Arrendale ones next year. :)

well their not going to release arrandale ones next year if they put clarksfield in this one
 
It's discouraging to see the Mac Pro left out of the picture once again. Why couldn't Apple at least bother to bring out a revision with an added SATA port? It used to be that high-end professional users were a core part of Apple's user base. Nowadays it's almost as if Apple has forgotten they exist.

Save that one for January along with other stuff.
 
Bump

A small hardware bump with dramatic price cuts. A $399 mini and a $799 Macbook - - - As a matter of fact, I believe if you read between the lines, there was a hint of something like this is yesterday's call...
 
- Redesigned plastic MacBooks

Let's hope that it keeps all the key features and ports.

- Redesigned "impressive" iMacs

It will probably be a great update.

- Mac mini updates, including one based on Mac OS X Server

A no-brainer since a number of internet server farms already use them.

- Multi-touch "Magic Mouse"

Whatever - Apple has a history of some really bad mice.

- A multi-touch "trackpad gadget" for desktop Macs

Fantastic, I just hope it isn't too expensive.
 
What's the point of redesigning plastic MacBooks?
They are already redesigned - MBP13"
 
So, the new trackpad replaces the mouse. (Apple kills the mouse! Woohoo!)

After all, a large touchpad would work, at least for me, better than using this mouse on a slide out desk shelf. Bring it, please :)

I don't think Apple would replace the mouse by a trackpad, as, to me, the mouse is way more comfortable to use than a trackpad, no matter how big and how many multi-touch gestures it has. For example, I work a lot in Final Cut Pro, and you need to drag the playhead a lot in the timeline (and basically drag lots of stuff all the time) and dragging with a trackpad is just not comfortable. You either need two hands, one to press the button and one to drag, or you press with one thumb and drag with the index finger on the same hand, but that makes it impossible for your index finger to move more than a few centimetres. Of course there's tap-drag, but on OS X the problem I have with it is that it makes a single-click be delayed by a second or so, as it is waiting for whether you click again or not. Also, it has drag lock enabled for a few seconds even if you uncheck it, which annoys me a lot!

There has to be some awesome solution to combining the mouse and the trackpad (for desktop machines).

But Apple can always surprise us, who knows!
 
Also, Apple, put some decent sized hard drives in your laptops, 160GB in a laptop sold as a "pro" model for £900 is obscene. £199 netbooks have 160GB hard drives.

This. I'm close to purchasing a 13" MBP (broke the screen in my Blackbook, figure it's a good excuse for an upgrade), but to absolutely have to upgrade the hard drive as soon as I get it is really irritating. Same with the RAM - how on earth can a 'Pro' model have 2GB?!

Give me 4GB and 250GB and we've got a deal.
 
Replace the trackpad on the MacBook Air with the newer one and I'm in :D.

I also hope the Mac Pro gets updated, though I guess holding off until i9 is more worth it :p.
 
The pessimist in me thinks that this update of the iMac will see:

- Slimmer Case (Yawn)
- Larger Hard Drive
- GPU bump
- CPU Speed bump.
- HOWEVER it Will remain being powered by a Core 2 Duo processor.

I reckon we'll have to wait until Spring 2010 before we see Quad Core processors and possibly a BTO Blu Ray drive.

I do hope this is just an unfounded pessimistic view point and Apple surprise us with in "impressive" iMac update.
 
I can boot from eSATA on my hackintosh and on my Macbook Pro What I cannot do is hot swap eSATA disks, but this may be a bios/firmware limitation on my setups. Support is definitely there for booting.
I think the reason why it works on the MacBook is that they have support for booting over Express Card. What is needed is support for eSATA on the Mac Pro's PCIe. As far as I know, there is no generic driver/kext support for booting eSATA from the Mac Pro's PCIe. In fact a new 4-port, fairly high-end, 64/32-bit, eSATA PCIe card was announced just today and it says "Not bootable with the Apple Mac Pro (provides additional storage)." However, oddly enough they do support booting on PowerMac G5s. Here is a link to the announcement:

http://www.firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-2me4-e/pr/launch/

I don't know about the hackintosh, but it is obviously "hacked" so that may be the reason you can do it. By the way, what SATA PCIe card are you using to boot your system.

shadow1 said:
When is the firewire 3200 coming out? How does it rank compared to estata?
Firewire 3200 is never going to be offered by Apple. There might be a tiny, tiny chance that a third-party will offer a Firewire 3200 card but don't count on it. Firewire is effectively entering end-of-life on the Mac (i.e. no new development, it's now a legacy port). Look for USB3 to displace both Firewire and eSATA within the next year.
 
If they release a new iMac tomorrow, I'm all over it.

I'm especially looking forward to the new "magic mouse". That damn trackball got on my nerves, two finger scrolling sounds much simpler.
 
Can't see that they can do much to the white MacBook (apart from a price cut) without also doing something to the 13" MBP - any spec increase is going to narrow the gap between the two too much, and there's not that much in it now as it is.

At least that's my theory and why I've been holding out my MBP purchase until these rumours come to something.
 
It won't make a difference. Nobody is going to run out and buy Windows 7 except geeks. The problem has always been for Windows that their user base which they have a monopoly with, either don't care about upgrades or don't want to take the chance of screwing up their computer on an upgrade.

It is the one big difference between Apple and MS. Since most essentially make a conscious choice to buy a Mac, they are probably more technologically aware and want the newest thing...

So Windows enthusiasts are "Geeks", whereas Mac owners/enthusiasts are "more technologically aware and want the newest thing"? ;)
 
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