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If the sensor is on the back of the iPhone 8 and embedded in the screen on the note 8 I will be buying the note.
 
From a practical standpoint, touch ID on the back just doesn't work. For one, you won't be able to unlock the phone while it's sitting on your desk, which immediately takes away 50% of your unlock options. Also, a case would have to have a cutout on the rear to accommodate, adding to the phone's vulnerability. Then there's the issue with car mounts - I often unlock while it's clipped into its dash mount to access the maps. (While stationary, of course). All seems like a step back.
Not to mention that cases with cutouts on the back look SUPER tacky, at least anything that exceeds the camera hole...

Look at the Apple logo cutout cases and tell me that looks good with a straight face, I dare you.

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Moving the button to the back would be a TOTAL usability disaster. But with J. Ive at the helm.....i could expect the worst.

I know it's not favored with Touch ID on the back. But I see this as any other change Apple has made that others disapprove of in the past. You Will have those who do not support touch ID on the back and those who will adjust to the changes made.

Once the hype of this iPhone continues to build and more leaked parts or rumors follow, I think eventually some may change their minds and eventually succumb to purchasing this iPhone 8. Not everybody, but give it time and some people come around to accepting the change if this is accurate.
 
You're all being cute, acting so surprised. I also yearn to see Apple's design & engineering take its time until they get a front TouchID right rather than slap together another parity product (like last year's iPhone 6SS) just so they stick to the now-mandatory annual September announcement to pander to Wall Street.

That's what Jobs would do. Obsess, get the product right, and only then round up an event.

WTF do you expect from Cook? Like we haven't all been watching the same clockwork streak of lethargic, self-congratulatory events and slow buildup of a nonsensical product portfolio for the past 5 years. The promise of a mythical "pipeline" delivered us three iPhone 6's, three iPhone 5's (oops SE), the entire Mac line in tatters, an iPad that still won't outgrow its oversized-iPhone infancy, an "AI" that came first to market and its only evolution was the icon art. A watch and a TV that are still "getting there". All of those powered by the buggiest OSX and iOS releases in recent memory.

What do you expect? Mold-breaking designs? Surprises? One-more-things? Do you think Cook cares about any of that? His directives are clearly margin building, service growth and reputation management. I personally don't expect anything cooler, exciting or more innovative than a fourth revision of the iPhone 6. And mind you, it will still sell like crazy.
 
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You're all being cute, acting so surprised. I also yearn to see Apple's design & engineering take its time until they get a front TouchID right rather than slap together another parity product (like last year's iPhone 6SS) just so they stick to the now-mandatory annual September announcement to pander to Wall Street.

That's what Jobs would do. Obsess, get the product right, and only then round up an event.

WTF do you expect from Cook? Like we haven't all been watching the same clockwork streak of lethargic, self-congratulatory announcements and slow buildup of a nonsensical product portfolio for the past 5 years. All that's been effectively announced were four iPhone 6's, three iPhone 5's (oops SE), the entire Mac line in tatters, an iPad that still won't outgrow its oversized-iPhone infancy, an "AI" that came first to market and its only evolution was the icon art. A watch and a TV that are still "getting there". All of those powered by the buggiest OSX and iOS releases in recent memory.

What do you expect? Mold-breaking designs? Surprises? One-more-things? Do you think Cook cares? His directives are clearly margin building, service growth and reputation management. I personally don't expect anything cooler, exciting or more innovative than a fourth revision of the iPhone 6. And mind you, it will still sell like crazy.

I hate to admit it, but I cannot find an error in your analysis.
 
You're all being cute, acting so surprised. I also yearn to see Apple's design & engineering take its time until they get a front TouchID right rather than slap together another parity product (like last year's iPhone 6SS) just so they stick to the now-mandatory annual September announcement to pander to Wall Street.

That's what Jobs would do. Obsess, get the product right, and only then round up an event.

WTF do you expect from Cook? Like we haven't all been watching the same clockwork streak of lethargic, self-congratulatory announcements and slow buildup of a nonsensical product portfolio for the past 5 years. The promise of a mythical "pipeline" delivered us three iPhone 6's, three iPhone 5's (oops SE), the entire Mac line in tatters, an iPad that still won't outgrow its oversized-iPhone infancy, an "AI" that came first to market and its only evolution was the icon art. A watch and a TV that are still "getting there". All of those powered by the buggiest OSX and iOS releases in recent memory.

What do you expect? Mold-breaking designs? Surprises? One-more-things? Do you think Cook cares about any of that? His directives are clearly margin building, service growth and reputation management. I personally don't expect anything cooler, exciting or more innovative than a fourth revision of the iPhone 6. And mind you, it will still sell like crazy.

damn, you uttered the truth right there. Although I can disagree a bit on the Apple Watch part...it's been a success overall and it is leading the smartwatch industry, though the whole tech industry (including Apple) do not know what to do next with the smartwatch.

Other than that, you're completely right. What's worse, just imagine if the iPhone 8 comes out with a read Touch ID, and Samsung releases a Note 8 with fingerprint scanner in the display; that will truly damage Apple's image as an innovator.
 
Moving the button to the back would be a TOTAL usability disaster.

I dunno, Iris or 3D facial recognition could make fingerprints redundant.

But with J. Ive at the helm.....i could expect the worst.

Now that's harder to argue with. I mean, he couldn't even figure out how to make an official Apple case that didn't cover the word "iPhone".
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If this happens, massive uproar and then acceptance. May Apple take their time to do things right rather than rush something out. Just started using Touch ID on the 7+, I appreciate that while commuting.
 
I hope this does come to pass. It'll be amusing to see what kind of excuses people like Jim Dalrymple, Rene Richie, John Gruber etc come up with to excuse something that for years they've laughed at Android owners for having. I'd expect them to eat crow but so long as Apple designs it it's ok.
 
... that will truly damage Apple's image as an innovator.

You mean to say Apple still has an image as an innovator? Maybe when it was still fighting for the spotlight, it did. Apple is now a fixture amongst large establishment consumer electronics companies. With its 100K employees, hundreds of billions in the bank and a trillion dollar valuation, the current state of affairs is inexcusable.
 
Looking forward to this Touch ID on the back (even if not ideal), OLED model iPhone because it should have better features to make the iPhone more comparable to the latest and greatest from 2017.
 
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Nobody wants Lightning on the new iPhone.
 



Apple's rumored "iPhone 8" with an OLED display and wireless charging will continue to have Touch ID, but there is a "high chance" it will be on the back of the smartphone, says Hong Kong-based equity research firm CLSA.

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"iPhone 8" mockup with rear Touch ID sensor by Benjamin Geskin

An excerpt from a research note distributed this week by CLSA analysts Sebastian Hou and Brian Chen:CLSA created a diagram showing Touch ID placed slightly below the Apple logo on the back of the iPhone.

Samsung included a fingerprint sensor on the back of the Galaxy S8, but some reviews found it to be awkwardly positioned next to the camera. Apple placing Touch ID lower down could make it easier to reach.

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The diagram also shows a vertically-aligned dual-lens camera, a widely rumored iPhone 8 feature seen in previous renders. There also appear to be additional modules next to the front-facing camera, likely for rumored 3D sensing and facial recognition functionality. Other features shown are identical to the iPhone 7.

The diagram suggests the iPhone 8 will be 144mm tall and 71mm wide, making it slightly larger than an iPhone 7 but smaller than an iPhone 7 Plus as expected. With a depth of 7.69mm, the iPhone 8 would be just a hair thicker than the iPhone 5s, if the dimensions CLSA lists prove to be accurate.

Touch ID on the back of the iPhone 8 appears to be a fallback solution given Apple's struggles to integrate the fingerprint sensor underneath the smartphone's display effectively enough for mass production. Leaked renders suggest Apple has explored a rear Touch ID sensor on at least one iPhone 8 prototype.

Other manufacturing challenges may push iPhone 8 production behind schedule by at least one or two months, possibly delaying shipments until October or November. Nevertheless, most analysts still think Apple will announce the iPhone 8 in September alongside the so-called iPhone 7s and iPhone 7s Plus.

While some Apple fans will quip that "this same rumor surfaces every year," oft-reliable analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities implied this year's shortage could be much more "severe" than in previous years.

"iPhone 8" is a tentative name for Apple's significantly redesigned, high-end smartphone rumored to launch in 2017. It has also been referred to as the iPhone X, iPhone Pro, and iPhone Edition.

Article Link: Rumors Persist About Apple Placing Touch ID on Back of iPhone 8
Women will find that spot in no time. Men, not so much...
 
I really don't like the idea of it on the back. Feels like an admission of failure on their part if they do that.

Where does "failure" fit in? Have they said they are going keep it on the front? (I'm not aware they've said anything specific about it)


Hopefully that doesn't happen. I like having my fingerprint sensor where I can see it and not spend 10 seconds trying to find it with my finger every time I want to unlock the device.

Your girlfriend must think you're a blast to be with...
 
I've said it before and I stand by it. If they put the Touch ID on the back, I'll keep using my 7Plus until they are able to figure out how to put it back on the front. On the back is just too awkward.
 
From a practical standpoint, touch ID on the back just doesn't work. For one, you won't be able to unlock the phone while it's sitting on your desk, which immediately takes away 50% of your unlock options. Also, a case would have to have a cutout on the rear to accommodate, adding to the phone's vulnerability. Then there's the issue with car mounts - I often unlock while it's clipped into its dash mount to access the maps. (While stationary, of course). All seems like a step back.
There is an easy fix for that, and that fix is to do the same as Samsung is doing by giving peoples CHOICES on how they want to unlock their phones ;).

Maybe it's time for Apple to realize that different choices are a good thing?
 
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