I'm absolutely fine with it, but it would have been nice if they gave us a price reduction on the iPhone 12 to go with it and/or if they made the $29 USB-C charger significantly cheaper. I remember when they released the first USB-C Macs they sold USB-A to USB-C dongles at lower prices for a while. They should do that again this time with the USB-C chargers.
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Rumors Persist About Apple Selling iPhone 12 Models Without a Charger or EarPods in the Box
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I’m fine with this. But drop the price. $50-60 less for the headphone and charger and cable. Those in need can then still budget to buy them from Apple.
3 things:
Get rid of the earpods. That’s fine. Most people have headphones any way and if not you can get them pretty easily and cheaply.
Get rid of the charging cable: That’s fine. People need different lengths any way and there are plenty of options out there.
Get rid of the charging block? No way. With different wattages and so many less than reputable sources, it seems like charging would become dangerous. The average person goes on amazon and buys the cheapest one they can find or finds one or gets one from a friend and risk frying the phone or starting a fire. What I think Apple should do is include with purchase a voucher for the retail cost of the 5w block. Customer can use it to buy one or apply it to the fast charge one. Or anything in the apple store. It amounts to a $10 gift card that will be spent on stuff that apple is already getting a profit (probably) on.
Get rid of the earpods. That’s fine. Most people have headphones any way and if not you can get them pretty easily and cheaply.
Get rid of the charging cable: That’s fine. People need different lengths any way and there are plenty of options out there.
Get rid of the charging block? No way. With different wattages and so many less than reputable sources, it seems like charging would become dangerous. The average person goes on amazon and buys the cheapest one they can find or finds one or gets one from a friend and risk frying the phone or starting a fire. What I think Apple should do is include with purchase a voucher for the retail cost of the 5w block. Customer can use it to buy one or apply it to the fast charge one. Or anything in the apple store. It amounts to a $10 gift card that will be spent on stuff that apple is already getting a profit (probably) on.
It will all be additional margin for Apple, or at best a $1 reduction just passing on the cost saved on the charger. If it were the other way around and they were going to add a charger, they would add the full $19 retail price to the phone.
Nickle and diming punters is the worst. Shame on you, Apple. I'll stick with my 6S until it dies.
What if you have an original Apple lightning charger?
There won't be a cable in the box so that you can use an original Apple Charger, only on Android chargers via USB-C???
That is CRAZY!
There won't be a cable in the box so that you can use an original Apple Charger, only on Android chargers via USB-C???
That is CRAZY!
I use the bundled EarPods with my 7 Plus because lightning headsets are rare in my country, and Apple stopped bundling the lightning to 3.5mm adapter. The bundled earpod is literally the only wired earbud I can use with it.
I heard the opposite. The box will come empty with no phone so that they can reduce ewaste.
The margin will be the same, roughly 38% GPM. Likely the cost of the phone increased due to the LIDAR sensor. Removing the charger, cable, and buds helps towards keeping the price the same.
You say useless crap, but you're the one that chose to buy accessories to the items you already have that, at the most basic level, do the exact same thing.
I wonder if covid Supply chain issues or economics drove this...The days of providing wired headphones are definitely behind us but i'm not sure it's time to remove the charger/cable, especially since Apple uses a proprietary cable.
Apple should just sell two different SKUs per each model, one without any accessories (not even charging cable) and one with all the accessories for $50 more.
I see that as a transition though. Over time the 5W charger inventory will dwindle as long as Apple doesn't make more. Apple will produce more 18W/20W chargers to meet the needs of those who will need them, and then that production will slow as well over time from reuse. I think the environmental effect is there, just not necessarily an instant one.
I did the math. Collectively we all have a bazillion (ha) extra chargers lying around unused. As painful and cheap a move as this seems, I believe it to be a good move once past this transition. Rather than throwing away my 5W chargers, though, I have found use for them with products that don't come with chargers. That trend is only going to grow.
I still have the original cable from the 5th Gen iPod Video. Strangely enough, it's held up better than most recent Apple cables... no fraying or nothing.
Nothing was ever given away for free. Its cost + profit was built into the price you pay.
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Glued and soldered for zero repairability, but no charger -> Green company helping to reduce e-waste.
I remember the first iPhone came with a Dock and a Cloth