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Rumors Revisited: Next-Generation iWork and iLife Plans? Apple Tablet Design Surprise?

Macminiintel said:
Apple didn't screw anyone. Even software developers are moving away from PowerPC like Adobe and most games now are for intel-only macs, are they screwing people over as well?.

Also the last proper PowerPC was sold well over three years ago, long enough really to support a dying CPU line. The main reason Apple is supporting intel only is so they could spend there time optimising for intel to make it faster for the current generation of Macs, I assume the majority of intel macs out there will be core 2 duo, so pretty much most people will be taking advantage of 64-bit Snow Leopard.

Coming from a user who still owns two PowerPC Macs
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I agree with you, I have a 17" G4 Powerbook, and it is far from dinosaur status around my house. Just before SL landed I upgraded the RAM, and moved to Leopard and iLife 09 / iWork 09. It's like a new Mac again, and more than fast enough for anything I need to do on it.

But I did run across something strange the other day. A friend with a G5 iMac (running Tiger) wanted "upgrade advice" but only had a few hundred dollars to play with. I pointed him at more memory and upgrading the same way I did. After some deliberation, he thought to do the same thing. He upgraded the RAM and right there he said it felt like new again. So he went to the Apple store to purchase the Mac Box Set with Leopard, iLife and iWork. Guess what? They don't sell it anymore. They only sell the box set with Snow Leopard. Apparently, you can't purchase Leopard from Apple anymore. Now how stupid is that?

I'm sure he can find old versions of the Box set on amazon, or e-bay or somewhere, but come on, you can't purchase it from Apple? That seems pretty odd to me. Especially when there are many, many classes of machine that are still in service that cannot run Snow Leopard.
 
Everybody is always crazy about 64bit. What I want is a vast adoption of Open CL. Not only to speed up certain tasks like iMovie's video handling but for the whole iWork and iLife suits to run on. So when I type a letter in Pages it goes through my GPU. And I think future Macs will include a very powerfull GPU and no CPU.
 
Capabilities

The main thing I want to know about the tablet is if is going to be closer to an overgrown iPod Touch, or closer to the capabilities of a MacBook.

What can be done with it and how it fits into my lifestyle and work style will depend on what it replaces and how it makes it richer.

A lot of you think it is going to be based on an overgrown iPod Touch or overgrown iPhone. I hope that is not the case.
 
Please Apple, the new version of iWork really badly needs an iWork equivalent of:

-Microsoft Project (CRITICAL!!)
-Microsoft Visio

If Apple creates some equivalents of those apps for iWork and that also work with Microsoft's native formats then that would be just what iWork needs.

Also, pages needs some configuration options in its preference pane to set the default view, i hate having to setup the "show guides" and "show thumbnail views" on the left hand side every time i open or create a new document. Very frustrating.
 
I'm beginning to hate those words "design surprise" for the tablet. My imagination is getting wild. I cannot figure any abstract tablet.
 
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iMacmatician said:
EagerDragon said:
A lot of you think it is going to be based on an overgrown iPod Touch or overgrown iPhone.
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That's because many of the signs point to that.
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I hope it is an overgrown Touch. Pocket PCs, and things like OQO have shown that very small computers are not going to succeed at least if they just throw the regular OS on there. The iPhone shows that the UI is the most important aspect of a good pocketable device. And I have no interest in any Apple tablet that won't fit in my pocket.
 
Mugwumper said:
This solves the newspaper industry's problem of declining readers. Put all
their content on the web, then access it via this flexible "pad". You can take
it anywhere, and it displays full pages. And I just applied for the "iPad"
trademark/copyright . . . ;^)

I also vaguely remember something in an ad I saw on TV a while back: a
device about the size of an iPhone/Touch that generated a 3-D holographic
image above the device. Scroll through the image a la multitouch, and very
portable.

OK, back to reality . . . ;^)
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LOL ... My excuse was I am reading John Birmingham's 'Axis of Time' trilogy and all the folks in 2021 have 'Flexipads' that seem to be pretty close to the more shall we say far sighted rumors for the Apple Tablet!
 
dernhelm said:
I agree with you, I have a 17" G4 Powerbook, and it is far from dinosaur status around my house. Just before SL landed I upgraded the RAM, and moved to Leopard and iLife 09 / iWork 09. It's like a new Mac again, and more than fast enough for anything I need to do on it.

But I did run across something strange the other day. A friend with a G5 iMac (running Tiger) wanted "upgrade advice" but only had a few hundred dollars to play with. I pointed him at more memory and upgrading the same way I did. After some deliberation, he thought to do the same thing. He upgraded the RAM and right there he said it felt like new again. So he went to the Apple store to purchase the Mac Box Set with Leopard, iLife and iWork. Guess what? They don't sell it anymore. They only sell the box set with Snow Leopard. Apparently, you can't purchase Leopard from Apple anymore. Now how stupid is that?

I'm sure he can find old versions of the Box set on amazon, or e-bay or somewhere, but come on, you can't purchase it from Apple? That seems pretty odd to me. Especially when there are many, many classes of machine that are still in service that cannot run Snow Leopard.
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I agree 100%. Although I work on the latest Intel based technology from Apple I still use an ancient base G4 iBook for basic stuff a lot and it runs better on Leopard (excepting anything with Flash - Thank you Clickforflash) that it did originally. Maybe Apple need to re box Leopard as 'Leopard for pre Intel Macs!' The cynic in me thinks maybe Apple would rather we junked them in favor of new intel Macs of course ;)
 
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I hope it is an overgrown Touch. Pocket PCs, and things like OQO have shown that very small computers are not going to succeed at least if they just throw the regular OS on there. The iPhone shows that the UI is the most important aspect of a good pocketable device. And I have no interest in any Apple tablet that won't fit in my pocket.
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This just in : AP April 2010.: .. Tommy Hilfiger designs new large Apple Tablet sized pockets, other designers believed to be furiously copying the idea as his sales soar ... ;)
 
Applet

I had a dream last night that the tablet came out and it SUCKED. I didn't want it at all. It was like a kindle on steroids, only not very good ones, because it wasn't that much better. MAN I hope that's not the case.

Digitalclips said:
This just in : AP April 2010.: .. Tommy Hilfiger designs new large Apple Tablet sized pockets, other designers believed to be furiously copying the idea as his sales soar ...
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Aaaha! that's pretty funny.
 
Digitalclips said:
I agree 100%. Although I work on the latest Intel based technology from Apple I still use an ancient base G4 iBook for basic stuff a lot and it runs better on Leopard (excepting anything with Flash - Thank you Clickforflash) that it did originally. Maybe Apple need to re box Leopard as 'Leopard for pre Intel Macs!' The cynic in me thinks maybe Apple would rather we junked them in favor of new intel Macs of course ;)
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It would be one thing if Apple simply discontinued support for PPC based equipment. When that happens, then sure, stop selling the software. But Leopard is a definite upgrade over Tiger on those machines, and if Apple is supporting them, they should still be selling software for them.

Sure, they'd rather us upgrade by buying new hardware (so would my friend as well), but that's not the economy we live in right now.

cyberjunky said:
Please Apple, the new version of iWork really badly needs an iWork equivalent of:
-Microsoft Project
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Project is awful. It is more bad than one could ever possibly imagine. The best thing that ever happened to me was when I changed jobs was to no longer be managing people directly and to not have to use Project. If Apple turned it's design expertise to the general class of problem that Project purports to resolve, they may well come up with a product someone would actually want to use. That would be nice, but Apple should certainly NOT try to produce a Project clone.


cyberjunky said:
Please Apple, the new version of iWork really badly needs an iWork equivalent of:
-Microsoft Visio
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Not that I'm against Apple adding this to the iWork suite, but I use Omnigraffle for this and would rather Apple spend their resources elsewhere. They won't beat Omnigraffle for design and ease of use anyway. It isn't "cheap" (standard version $99 - professional $199), but it is one of the best products of this type.
 
Freaky

How can they make such astounding predictions like this?

"Concerning MacTablet, it will indeed be produced, but it will be far different from the concepts that have been announced so far on rumor sites."

Such clarity. Do these people take home a paycheque for writing this stuff? Sign me up.
 
Tablet prediction

Hmm... tablet delayed after chrome os came out?
Could be a coincidence... but my guess is that the "tablet" will be a 100% internet compliant hardware with an online os.
More, the hardware could puts together ".mac" accounts with an online operative system creating an identity for every user that goes online linked to all system settings a synchronization with desktop or macbook off line systems.

The tablet will be a device with media/buying capabilities (itunes/quicktime/appstore/ebay/online purchase), surf capabilities (online system integrated with safari and synchronization services) and kindle-like (publisher for online magazine, I agree on that one).

The goal is toy create a different way of using internet, pushing the occasional user to go fully online (for standard job office, Occasional gaming - [online ilife suite?]) with an ONLINE OPERATIVE SYSTEM.

This will allow a 90% avoiding of piracy and a full control over profiling the user for advertisment. (read the new patent steve jobs signed for creating a standard format for putting advertinsing everywhere)

Keep that mail. You'll see i'm right
 
Killer App?

The one tablet application that might make me buy one - a drawing/painting app - is the one I see no mention of at all. What's the point of a tablet if you can't draw on it?
 
haravikk said:
I would be surprised if they did drop support for Leopard. More likely they'll compile two different versions of the new iLife; one to support Intel Leopard, and one to fully support Snow Leopard, as it's in Apple's best interests to showcase Snow Leopard with their own apps, and it would presumably set them up well for 10.7 whenever that arrives.
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Why would they do that when you can just spend $30 for an upgrade to SL? The people that may be most hurt by this are people still on Tiger.
 
powers74 said:
THANK YOU! Someone that gets it. This is such a huge market, and nobody seems to get it.
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I've mentioned many times that the device should be geared towards graphic designers. This should be it's main selling point and I think it will be. I do think that when it's finally released though, that it will do many things that many people are not thinking of due to close mindedness. Even though it may be geared towards graphic designers, I think the other features will be so hefty and able to alter ones life for the positive that people who wouldn't even normally be into "gadgets" lol will desire to have one. It's gonna be awesome when it arrives.
 
finally 64bit apps coming up nope
i am the better man here, i wont be a ***** and i'll keep up my side of the deal
 
PPC users please... shut up.

kernkraft said:
Some people feel very disappointed and rightly so. Some PPCs were purchased in less than three and a half years ago and now they are officially classed as dinosaurs. No Windows on Boot Camp, no Snow Leopard, no iLife and iWork. This is iRage!
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The PPC users need to get over themselves. Seriously. The machine they paid for 3.5 years ago is capable of doing everything it could do at the time of purchase and those making said purchases felt it was worth what they paid then. Apple hasn't removed a drop of functionality from those machines. I own 3 PPC Macs and they're still chugging along and working fine. They do exactly what they've been doing for years. Just because you can't run the ABSOLUTE newest software does not mean a machine is inoperable or a "dinosaur."

No Windows on Boot Camp? Yeah, those stupid Apple engineers. I can't believe they couldn't get Windows to run natively on a platform it wasn't developed natively for.

You want to blame someone for the PPC users' woes? Blame IBM and Motorola for their crappy development cycles and inability to deliver a processor on time or to spec. Apple's move to Intel was a necessity more than anything else.

Don't get me wrong, Apple (like virtually every other company I buy stuff from) makes a lot of decisions that really annoy me. However, that's life. Some people have got to get over this idea of entitlement to future software. It's a bit of a drag when your platform/machine is no longer able to support the latest and greatest but... you know... welcome to the world of technology.
 
I skipped iLife '09. I would be surprised if they passed on calling the next version iLife X and iWork X. :apple:

If this tablet has a flexible foldable screen then that would be something. Otherwise I'm sure there's a rendering to comes close to it. :)
 
kernkraft said:
Care to leave me alone?! My point was that it didn't run Windows. That's it. :mad:
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PPC machines NEVER were able to run Windows. Bootcamp didn't exist prior to Intel Macs. You are whining about something isn't possible. Apple hasn't said that the next version of iLife/iWork will not run on PPC's either, so the iRage is misplaced. Never mind that the existing software you have on your G5's still works, nothing has been taken away from you. It is not like Apple releasing Snow Leopard rendered your computers unusable, you just cannot use the latest OS.

Chef Jay
 
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