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Rumors Revisited: Next-Generation iWork and iLife Plans? Apple Tablet Design Surprise?

I''l be interested in an Apple tablet if and only if it turns out to be more of an e-reader and less of an intermediate link between the iPhone and the MB/MBP.

If it's the former I would be very, very interested.
 
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dfs said:
Apple has an urgent corporate interest in getting out some software that showcases the new technologies in Snow Leopard and inspire other major software developers to do the same. Which is pretty obvious and doesn’t require the predictive powers of a Nostradamus (and which also makes me suspect that new iLife and iWork suites will be out sooner rather than later, I bet Apple is making this a crash project). More interesting, and harder to predict, is what new features will be added to these suites to do the showcasing. J Apple needs some wizzy new stuff that will only work on Snow Leopard that will make us all sit up and take notice.
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But 10.6 was to make the Mac OS faster & more stable as well as more 64 bit. So far 10.6 is slower & seems also to be less stable that 10.5.8. So it looks like 64 bit is the only thing that Apple has succeeded at. Also I am running a 1st gen dual 3 GHz Intel Mac Pro. Being 1st gen means I wasted my money & should have been smart & waited for 2nd or later gen Intel Mac. With no extra features for 10.6 for many Intel Mac people, how can Apple have any new features that only work with Intel Macs & 10.6?

OS 10.5 was out 6+ months late because Apple had to spend too much time with the iPhone. That may be the real reason why 10.6 had little in the new feature area & hasn't lived p to any of its hype on my Mac at the very least. Does that mean that we need an iPhone to really run 10.6?
 
Internally and externally Apple has several OS "threads". Why not deal with that in an open and public way? They have already done all the work. Just make a public release and for the simple among us maybe a table of OS compatibility

List the Computers they suggest 10.4.11 on
List the computers they suggest 10.5.x on
List the computers they suggest 10.6.2 on

List the apps . . . . . they suggest X on.

Rocketman

Maintain 10.4.x
10.5.x (with a stated preference for 10.6)
10.6.x
 
heisetax said:
But 10.6 was to make the Mac OS faster & more stable as well as more 64 bit. So far 10.6 is slower & seems also to be less stable that 10.5.8. So it looks like 64 bit is the only thing that Apple has succeeded at.
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There's a lot more to Snow Leopard than "faster, more stable, and 64 bit." John Siracusa of Ars Technica in my opinion did the best job of explaining what the new version of OS X brings to the table:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars

All these under the hood enhancements are just sitting there, waiting to be shown off. I'm still waiting to see who's going to make the first big splash.
 
lex750 said:
Apple screwed PPC people with SL. Do you really expect anything else from them?
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That is senseless and misinformed. They didn't screw anyone.

Snow leopard was an optimisation for the current hardware. You can't optimise for dual core when power pc is not dual core. You can't optimise for open gl graphics when the gfx cards in the ppc computers did not support open gl. And you can't optimise an os for the future based on an older platform instead.

So there was absolutely no reason why snow leopard would or should run on a ppc mac. And I have a few of them to know enough.

Ilife is another matter. As per usual the original article on page one shows little judgement. Ilife is simple to develop for both ppc and intel. I see no reason why apple will discontinue it for ppc. Ilife or iwork works wonders on g4, g5's let alone powermacs. Also since it's very light, way too light compared to m$ office it's a great option for an older mac. Maybe some features such as video editing will not be suited for older macs, but iwork will have no problem.

I am eagerly waiting for the iwork update, it's a great office suite and it will get much better. It's a joy to have native office suite that is made to the usual high productivity, design and intuitiveness standards that apple is known for. Except for some features of excel it blows away the bloatware that is ms office. It's lean, it's powerful, it's elegant and fast. I really hope apple has some of their brilliant people working hard to make it even better, and they've not sidelined it to status of lesser importance than other products.
 
Mugwumper said:
This solves the newspaper industry's problem of declining readers. Put all their content on the web, then access it via this flexible "pad". You can take it anywhere, and it displays full pages...
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The newspaper industry's problem is not finding a compelling device on which to put their content; it's getting people to pay for the content.
 
Apple wants the compelling access device and format to be the basis for the revenue stream. Just like the iPod. With books and magazines they hope to offer the first "full color" and "live link" format device and content. For a fee and the traditional 30% margin.

We'll see.

Rocketman

Google Books has its own issues to deal with. Amazon is competing with Wally-World for goodness sake!
 
Cycom said:
I''l be interested in an Apple tablet if and only if it turns out to be more of an e-reader and less of an intermediate link between the iPhone and the MB/MBP.

If it's the former I would be very, very interested.
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My guess is that it's a standalone device and maybe a new computing platform and quite possibly where the Mac OS is heading. It would make no sense to sync a device with a 10" screen to possibly a 13" MBP. It would make no sense for this to be used solely as an e-reader either since the whole industry is falling apart and it will carry more computing power than the iPhone.
 
lex750 said:
Apple screwed PPC people with SL. Do you really expect anything else from them?
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Apple didn't screw anyone. Even software developers are moving away from PowerPC like Adobe and most games now are for intel-only macs, are they screwing people over as well?.

Also the last proper PowerPC was sold well over three years ago, long enough really to support a dying CPU line. The main reason Apple is supporting intel only is so they could spend there time optimising for intel to make it faster for the current generation of Macs, I assume the majority of intel macs out there will be core 2 duo, so pretty much most people will be taking advantage of 64-bit Snow Leopard.

Coming from a user who still owns two PowerPC Macs
 
ata said:
iLife and the tablet would be developed by totally separate teams, so one doesn't preclude the other.
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it would if the new iLife was to take whatever unique advantages of the new Tablet. One program to serve them all.
 
kernkraft said:
Some people feel very disappointed and rightly so. Some PPCs were purchased in less than three and a half years ago and now they are officially classed as dinosaurs. No Windows on Boot Camp, no Snow Leopard, no iLife and iWork. This is iRage!
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No offence but do you actually know the difference between Intel's X86 architecture and IBM's PowerPC RISC architecture. They are world's apart I'd say, so how would you get windows to work via bootcamp on a PowerPC mac lol, since it needs an X86 cpu :D
 
Macminiintel said:
No offence but do you actually know the difference between Intel's X86 architecture and IBM's PowerPC RISC architecture. They are world's apart I'd say, so how would you get windows to work via bootcamp on a PowerPC mac lol, since it needs an X86 cpu :D
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That is exactly, what I said, although, with less technical show-off.
 
Can't wait for that tablet to come out and try to make me buy it. Probably won't buy unless it is truly amazing and satisfies my needs in a way my iPhone won't. I just want to satisfy my curiosity and see the darn thing already.
 
Daringescape said:
I think the "tablet" device may be something like this:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/1479...n_tablet_concept_unveilled_at_gizmodo_gallery


but iphone sized - the device will fold in half with a seamless oled screen, so when unfolded it becomes twice the size of an iphone....
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I've gotta say that sounds pretty crazy. The only legitimate confirmation that the tablet really exists comes from AppleInsider & NYTimes (by accident). It wouldn't really make any sense to make a dual screen device unless you would actually trying to make it seem like a book. Every report seems to say that it will be one screen.

I would like to see the things that were demoed in the Courier video. I get the feeling that there will be. The one big secret that hasn't been shown yet is the actual OS. From every report it seems to be a single screen. Like the iPhone at Macworld, I think everyone is going to be blown away.

EDIT: Oh yeah, believe me when I say that the Courier will never see the light of day. M$ has a way of showing BS fake videos that never come to fruition. They'll just wait to see what Apple comes out with and mimick it as best they can.
 
str1f3 said:
I've gotta say that sounds pretty crazy. The only legitimate confirmation that the tablet really exists comes from AppleInsider & NYTimes (by accident). It wouldn't really make any sense to make a dual screen device unless you would actually trying to make it seem like a book. Every report seems to say that it will be one screen.

I would like to see the things that were demoed in the Courier video. I get the feeling that there will be. The one big secret that hasn't been shown yet is the actual OS. From every report it seems to be a single screen. Like the iPhone at Macworld, I think everyone is going to be blown away.

EDIT: Oh yeah, believe me when I say that the Courier will never see the light of day. M$ has a way of showing BS fake videos that never come to fruition. They'll just wait to see what Apple comes out with and mimick it as best they can.
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I agree, it doesnt seem likely, but I seem to remember that oled screens being able to be borderless... maybe the dual screen would become one screen that appears seamless. In essence it wouldnt be dual screen, it would just be an iphone/tablet hybrid. It wouldnt be unlike Apple to shock the hell out of everyone and turn out a product that is game-changing.
 
ChrisA said:
As a software developer I see a good reason. One example. Say I need to rotate an image. 10.6 gives me a great way to do this that makes use of multiple CPU cores and/or the GPU but if I use that feature my software will not work under Leopard. So I'm forced to either not use the new SN feature, thereby making all the people with brand new Macs upset or I have to write my software twice.

I can write it twice but that means over all I can only add half as many new things because each must be written twice.

So I have to choose between complaints like "I just bought a quad core machine and way can't your software use more than one core?" and "Why can't your new software run on my old computer?". It's a balancing act between these two.
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That works well until you hit the fatal flaw, Snow Leopard is running on a Mac mini Core Solo with the GMA 950.
 
Daringescape said:
I agree, it doesnt seem likely, but I seem to remember that oled screens being able to be borderless... maybe the dual screen would become one screen that appears seamless. In essence it wouldnt be dual screen, it would just be an iphone/tablet hybrid. It wouldnt be unlike Apple to shock the hell out of everyone and turn out a product that is game-changing.
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That could be possible though it's hard for me to believe that they would use an OLED screen when it does have some serious deficiencies and it is very cost prohibitive. As of right now the only rumor of them using OLEDs is coming from Digitimes who has had a 50/50 track record of being right and they're saying the price would be $2000. If it was dual-screen & iPhone-sized it could be cheaper but it seems to add a level of complexity that Apple doesn't usually like to add.

I expect the actual showstopper to be the OS. Everyone is expecting them to come out with a tablet (be it dual-screen or otherwise) but the extremely well kept hidden secret so far is the OS and the use of multitouch. Contrary to the hopes of fellow Mac users, Mac OSX was never meant to be used as a touch-based OS.
 
kernkraft said:
Some people feel very disappointed and rightly so. Some PPCs were purchased in less than three and a half years ago and now they are officially classed as dinosaurs. No Windows on Boot Camp, no Snow Leopard, no iLife and iWork. This is iRage!
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Care to explain exactly how Apple are expected to run Windows in Bootcamp on a PPC processor?
 
captmatt said:
The new tablet will actually be a sphere. It'll be crystalline in nature. From a distance it'll appear to be filled with smoke, but when you place your hands on it and peer intently into it, it'll reveal images from the smoke and have the ability, among other things, to tap into remote webcams and show what people are doing at that given moment and also will have predictive algorithms to show future events.
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...and it distorts the field of reality around the user.
 
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Concerning MacTablet... it will be far different from the concepts that have been announced so far on rumor sites.

I've heard this too, I reckon it doesn't exist at all, that would be completely different from the rumour sites!
 
I would be surprised if they did drop support for Leopard. More likely they'll compile two different versions of the new iLife; one to support Intel Leopard, and one to fully support Snow Leopard, as it's in Apple's best interests to showcase Snow Leopard with their own apps, and it would presumably set them up well for 10.7 whenever that arrives.
 
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