Here’s the deal. The forces that want lower fees and third party stores are after one thing. Access for private and governmental entities to have the ability to install malware and malicious apps that track and worse. That is the only reason. That applies to US, Russia, or anywhere else.
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Russian Lawmaker Seeks to Cap Apple's App Store Commission at 20%
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What does that have to do with anything? Are you here just for the purpose of arguing? And free apps are not "leeching" to Apple, they produce more device customers. Epic is more than welcome, from Apple's point of view, to give their in-app purchases away for free. Apple will sell more devices that way.
Really trying to understand this train of thought, hence my question about Epic being leeches if their app was free.Well, Yelp pays 30% of the app price, and 30% of in-app purchases. I think the app is free, and they have no in-app purchasesApple's App Store has identical rules for everyone, and as a result some companies pay for others.
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Yeah why not... any monopoly is bad for innovation, competition, consumers and the economy... but let them start slowly, else they get a burn out.
Do you really not understand what this actually means?
“nice private device you have there that we are having more and more trouble accessing, we will make these companies give us more ways into this device by cracking it open for “market fairness” reasons”
this is just a government ploy to degrade the privacy of our devices by forcing companies to open up their systems to more 3rd party software.
hold strong Apple, we are with you in your sandbox and we support you in keeping the walls up to ALL invaders. Stick to the plan
Apple's revenues from the App store was over 40 billions of dollars in the last quarter alone with a probably ridiculously high profit margin. This is their most profitable division. They will not abandon it even if it was to be cut in half. Way to many pessimistic peoples here.
maybe i am bad but i don't care about the privacy of other peoples. I will be careful about what i installed like i always been for the last years 30 years on my Mac.
People like you can jailbreak. Don’t force it on the community. You knew what you bought into when you got an iPhone.
Do you really think the 30% only has to cover storage and distribution? So I suppose you think that they have people working for free to develop new iOS versions every year, and updates throughout the year. They do it for free because they are just bored, and have nothing better to do. And all the other services they provide free of charge. Try thinking it though.
Can you can stop all your friends and family from doing so as well? Or instead, have to not trust every link or attachment or file they send you, because THEY installed a malicious app? Or even after you stop accepting anything from anyone, yet your personal information and files/pictures are being harvested and sent somewhere from THEIR maliscious app. So I got it... you think we should only install from App Store ourselves, not accept any links/files from anyone, and not share any personal info or files with anyone. Oh, and not share location data with anyone either.
Problem starting to make more sense now?
Here’s a list of all Apple’s monopolies. Kinda strange that they would boldly place this right on their website.
There is no monopoly and it seems Apple and it's devs have done very well with this innovation called the app store.
I get you reflected the Supermarket nonsense.
To answer your question ask Apple. They seam not like the idea of revealing their commission to the customers that bought them 1000s euros devices ... for every sale. Especially if they start to believe that the Apps and services could cost a bit less.
Maybe they are concerned that some customer might not like the fact that not only they payed a thousand for their device, and still the supplier needs to go after for 30% of whatever they buy to make the device useful. Who knows.
Look I7guys, your stance seams to be of defending some angel of business justice followed by some blanket statements about the billions you receive in your app. But history shows that they were caught several times abusing their power on issues that you would consider ok. Case in case iBook Price fixing. They actually conspired to fix prices according to the US Supreme court.
Did any device user cared in particular? No. So fairness and competition is not really about if Apple device customers care or not. By the way, it’s seams to me that in this business model devs are also customers in a sense ... so they do care right? So as customers it is valid to ask the question over the power a supplier might have over its customer and if it is being used in anti competitive ways.
Maybe not you, but I wonder if you are actually a digital business owner, never met one that did not care about how much they pay for stuff ... must be the billions.
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We are all dancing around whether the ios app store is narrowly defined as a monopoly. That question will be answered at some point. I am against government interference in business unless it's for the greater good. Splitting the app, lowering the fees, multiple app stores by legislation, in my opinion is not for the greater good.
I absolutely agree with that. But I also believe that voting through money isn’t the solution for everything.
So sometimes things go to court, to the governmental agencies. They exist not just to protect against foreign interference. One might not like them, but believe me that if they did not exist we would be acting like monkeys on some private kingdom Kings and Queens ... distopian style. In pure business and capitalism, concepts of fairness and innovation simply do not exist, it’s about leverage and how much we can get out of it.
Look at the SEC regulations protecting shareholders interests. It is based on the above cautions.
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You are obviously have been living under a rock. Democratization in real world means "sell your country's most valuable assets for peanuts, destroy your manufacturing/economy and buy only imported goods". You are right about the richest 1% though. Let's hope the tide is slowly begin to change.
Regardless of the specifics of that Russian demand:
I am so sick of reading this from commenters. If the 30% was necessary to cover the bills for the App Store as it is, Apple should not allow any free apps on it.
Some of the most downloaded and used apps on the app store push regular updates and make use of all of these features and are free. Apple makes nothing but the 100$ dev account fee.
Does that mean that it is ok that paid apps, even from devs way smaller than some of the corporations behind the free ones (let's say Facebook, Whatsapp, Google Maps, Tiktok, several banks etc.), cross-subsidize them? Maybe all the companies behind those paid apps should demand premium treatment from Apple as apparently they are footing the bill for the Bank of America app?
Or is this just a stupid argument that came up out of nowhere at some point and is being repeated over and over again without thinking about it for a second?
Free apps bring huge value to customers and is a big driver of iPhone sales. More iPhones = more potential paid-app customers. Free apps bring in 500 *million* App Store visitors every single WEEK.
That's the way Apple set it up and it seems to be working. Would you pay $5 for Google Chrome when it's free on Android? I wouldn't.
If you, as a developer, hate this "Apple tax" where you're funding free apps, then your logical choice is to move to Android.
For displaying locations like how Yelp is doing it? Apple maps is better.
For directions? Sure, Google Maps is better. But you're not getting directions within Yelp.
If you look on Glassdoor, app reviewers from Apple make $30/hr plus benefits. Last app review I sent in, my mixpanel analytics showed about an hour for a reviewer to review my app.
$100/year covers about 3 app update submissions. Developers typically submit more than 3 per year.
I agree. No business of a government. But I’m not surprised this is happening in Russia.