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Safari 4.0 Final (Tabs gone down, noooo!!!)
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And also:
Preferences-->General-->change "New Tabs open with" to whatever you like; do the same to anything else on the page that has "top sites" selected.
If you do this and the bit above, you should never even come across Top Sites unless you select it in the History menu or hit cmd+1.
Preferences-->General-->change "New Tabs open with" to whatever you like; do the same to anything else on the page that has "top sites" selected.
If you do this and the bit above, you should never even come across Top Sites unless you select it in the History menu or hit cmd+1.
Hey if you go under view and click show tab bar it bring Tabs back.
No, we want tabs to go back into the title bar
As much as it's annoying (I had just got used tabs on top), I still found it very frustrating when using a trackpad, I would often click, to find I moved the Safari window one pixel across, this happened alot, so I'm glad tabs have moved down, still, no progress bar? Really? Seems like a no brainer to have that in there...
I was also just getting to like tabs on top - this is certainly the worst method they've come up with. The loading 'block' in the url bar is pretty damn ugly, and having refresh at the end there still and not a button on the toolbar is pretty much inexcusable.
As a compromise I've hidden the toolbar altogether, but 'Open Location...' brings it back for typing in a url. Didn't 'Open Location...' used to open up a separate dialog? Now if you remove the address & google search item from the toolbar, which it happily offers you the option to do, there's nowhere to type in an address, lol.
Also having add bookmark, address & google search linked as one toolbar item is pretty annoying - I've never once added a bookmark for anything, and until they properly support localised Google websites, the toolbar search is less than ideal! If the refresh button went where the add bookmark button is now, that would at least make some sense!
At least they could give us options, that's really what it comes down to.
As a compromise I've hidden the toolbar altogether, but 'Open Location...' brings it back for typing in a url. Didn't 'Open Location...' used to open up a separate dialog? Now if you remove the address & google search item from the toolbar, which it happily offers you the option to do, there's nowhere to type in an address, lol.
Also having add bookmark, address & google search linked as one toolbar item is pretty annoying - I've never once added a bookmark for anything, and until they properly support localised Google websites, the toolbar search is less than ideal! If the refresh button went where the add bookmark button is now, that would at least make some sense!
At least they could give us options, that's really what it comes down to.
I downloaded the beta on two separate machines on the same day, both exhibited this behavior. Really found it annoying, to the point of uninstalling the beta. Now tonite, 'cause I'm a glutton for punishment, I DL'd the final, it's not doing it!
Maybe my mind was playing tricks on me, but I swear the beta was doing this to me, ( at least, I swore at the beta, a lot ).
Good - I was hoping I wasn't missing something myself...
It actually matches what they do on Safari on the iPhone and iPod Touch, so I'm used to it now.
100% agreed.
True on the refresh button, that hadn't actually occurred to me somehow - it's a bigger and more obvious target there though, relatively speaking. And at least Mobile Safari still uses the blue filling progress notification that should still be in Desktop Safari. Looking forward to Terminal hacks.
Edit: Oh wow, at least one of the things irking me can be solved easily enough - Customize Toolbar has the option to put 'Add Bookmark' in the bar on its own as well as linked to the address bar; if you add it on its own and then hide it again, you can get just the address bar without the 'Add Bookmark' button
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Well, you can get a list of all strings in Safari, by typing
I just haven't found which (if it even exists) string would be changed for the tab bar location. The ones used when changing Safari 4 beta are no longer there.
I just haven't found which (if it even exists) string would be changed for the tab bar location. The ones used when changing Safari 4 beta are no longer there.
anyone who uses a macbook or any apple notebook can appreciate the tabs on top approach. With such limited vertical real estate having that extra 20-30 pixels really makes pages more useful and less cluttered. I've decided to simply not use safari because they changed it. I know some people like it better now but seriously many people have actually adapted and liked the beta. They should give us the option and not just force this down our throats.
LoL I bet to Apple's way of thinking, our reactions are completely irrational - they tried one way and we complained, they went back on it and we keep complaining. I know they want total control over how the OS looks and works, but this was a big carrot that they just dangled and then removed and gave us dirt instead.
On another note, the final release did at least get around the conflict with MSN Messenger.
On another note, the final release did at least get around the conflict with MSN Messenger.
Safari Preferences -> General: Open new page/tab to (empty page, home page, etc.)
Safari Preferences -> Bookmarks tab -> Uncheck Top Sites
Not a problem with 1200 vertical.
Though, personally, I wouldn't have approved even at 600. Totally inconsistent and against any interface guidelines I've ever seen. But, don't get me started... (I think it's been more than covered in the beta threads.)
Steve
I think Steve came back from his time off and said:
"What the hell did you guys do while I was gone??? What's with this tabs on top business??? Put it back like it was before!"
I think Steve came back from his time off and said:
"What the hell did you guys do while I was gone??? What's with this tabs on top business??? Put it back like it was before!"
Aha!
Ctrl+tab/Ctrl+shift+tab now switches between tabs like Firefox -- even when it's not the overall window that's "active"... (Switching tabs with cmd+shift+left/right still doesn't work if the text cursor is in a text field like a search box.)
Another little plus for Safari.
Ctrl+tab/Ctrl+shift+tab now switches between tabs like Firefox -- even when it's not the overall window that's "active"... (Switching tabs with cmd+shift+left/right still doesn't work if the text cursor is in a text field like a search box.)
Another little plus for Safari.
that's why i stated notebooks, at 900px vertical every pixel is welcomed and wasted space is annoying.