Samsung Ad Encourages iPhone Users to Switch to the Galaxy Note10 and 'Fall in Love' With Bokeh Video

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Not to mention support and upgrades. IPhone 6s is over 4 years old but is getting the latest iOS update, next week. Not a year or two later, but next week. The iPhone 5s is over 5 years old to date and still received access to the current 12.4.1. We can also just walk into a local apple store and receive full support.

For any android over a year old, it can take over a year after release of a new OS to receive the latest android. After 2 years, the software releases are next to non-existent for most devices.

Its been over a decade and Android manufacturers and weirdo fanboys just don't seem to get this simple concept.

My iPhone 6s is about to get its fourth major update....the only thing I have noticed in those updates was about 18 months ago when it basically was crawling (throttled). That was a great update! Aside from that, I cannot tell a single thing that looks or behaves differently since the day I purchased it.
 
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Sell sizzle, not steak. Marketing 101.

Since I'm a firm subscriber to idea of Caveat Emptor, I find it ridiculous to base buying a phone for its camera performance. If it performs well as a phone and, since it's a smart phone, an internet connected device. If I want to take videos with great bokeh, I'll use my Canon and an L-lense.

On vacation before the iPhone Pro Cameras. Would I buy the phone for the camera, yes. FYI I would save a bundle and get impressive photos.
 
This just shows how little Samsung knows about iPhone-users in generel... what a completely stupid "feature." LTT tested it and it looks sooooo horrible. I think this ad will net exactly zero switchers.

....and yet one of the highlights of this weeks keynote was a “slowfie” affect? Really...all those android users must be crying in their beer missing out on that.
 
Sell sizzle, not steak. Marketing 101.

Since I'm a firm subscriber to idea of Caveat Emptor, I find it ridiculous to base buying a phone for its camera performance. If it performs well as a phone and, since it's a smart phone, an internet connected device. If I want to take videos with great bokeh, I'll use my Canon and an L-lense.
Oh lawd, it's the L Mount Alliance! :D
 
Which iPhone? Lumping them all together? Got numbers for iPhone Pro Max vs Note 10+ ?
[doublepost=1568401482][/doublepost]Apple's bokeh is so broken it can't even get enough working images to fill a website advert and puts up this garbage:

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https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/
I mean, in 12 months, Apple sold 215M phones at an average of $760/each. So for Apple, their average phone is $760...those are real numbers. Samsung refuses to break them out, but I can tell you from Samsung's overall earnings that they don't do close to $166B in phone revenue in 12 months, like Apple did. You certainly agree Samsung's ASP isn't $760, right? It's mathematically impossible based on Samsung's earnings.

Projections for the Note 10 are around 10M units and the Galaxy line is around 40-50M units.

I agree that picture isn't perfect, but let's see the same pic exact for Samsung. There are examples of bad pictures for Samsung too...even their most recent commercial shows imperfect bokeh in their video bokeh demonstration.

The hair is challenging for sure. I don't think there is anyone that can say Samsung definitely has better picture quality than Apple and certainly not video. Apple is consistently among the leaders in camera quality and I see this year being no different.
 
Which iPhone? Lumping them all together? Got numbers for iPhone Pro Max vs Note 10+ ?
[doublepost=1568401482][/doublepost]Apple's bokeh is so broken it can't even get enough working images to fill a website advert and puts up this garbage:

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https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/


Garbage? What’s wrong with that image? Looks amazing. Are you talking about those blurry hair edges? If you are, it’s not fault that’s exactly how they wanted it to be. They want you to look the face of woman smiling and it should make you feel happy. It’s basic marketing. That’s why they blurred the hair to make it more soft and not distracting and point your eyes to right place.
 
And? The result is that Samsung phone has boken in video and iPhones don't. Is that a bad result for Samsung? One may question the quality of the bokeh but the same is true for still pictures and Apple made countless adds about their bokeh/shallow DOF (portrait mode).
Right and the original post questioned who is copying who with the bokeh, as many here like to discuss that sort of thing. Apple has dynamic hdr in video and Samsung has bokeh. Apple has had both in photographs.
 
Garbage? What’s wrong with that image? Looks amazing. Are you talking about those blurry hair edges? If you are, it’s not fault that’s exactly how they wanted it to be. They want you to look the face of woman smiling and it should make you feel happy. It’s basic marketing. That’s why they blurred the hair to make it more soft and not distracting and point your eyes to right place.

Blurry hair on the right, blurry hair on the left, bokeh on the building on the left is a complete disaster and distracts from the subject.

This image is completely unusable. How did Apple let it get published on their website? Standards in freefall throughout the company.
 
It's portrait mode bokeh photo applied to video. People who like portrait mode but don't like this yet because Apple wasn't first.
 
Which iPhone? Lumping them all together? Got numbers for iPhone Pro Max vs Note 10+ ?
[doublepost=1568401482][/doublepost]Apple's bokeh is so broken it can't even get enough working images to fill a website advert and puts up this garbage:

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https://www.apple.com/iphone-11/
Well will find some imperfection in Samsung’s photo and then call those photos garbage also. Easy-peasy to sling the mud. Guessing it’s garbage because Samsung’s is worse.;)
 
It's portrait mode bokeh photo applied to video. People who like portrait mode but don't like this yet because Apple wasn't first.

People don’t like it because it’s very bad, here’s example


I can’t really see anyone using that for real. And i can’t seriously believe Samsung released that for public
 
I really wonder why Apple didn't add Apple Pencil support... doesn't hurt nobody not using it, and could have made a couple of hundred millions $ from selling pencils. Now ProCreate Pocket customers need to resort to Wacom and Adonit :(

Rumor is iPhone 11 Pro has the hardware for pencil support AND bilateral wireless charging but is software disabled. Reasons is iOS13 wasn't ready for Apple Pencil on the phone and may come later this year. The bilateral wireless charging they are waiting for the new Airpods to be released for Xmas and the charging will be a selling point. Also, they want Apple Tile to be ready and add UWB to the Airpods too, so if you lose them, you can find them.
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I had the Note 10 for a week - it was a very slick device. Didn't use the S-PEN at all... the Bokeh (Live Focus) Video... was Brokah. It was horrible - interesting idea, but total gimmick.
Brokah , you made me spit up my coffee
 
Rumor is iPhone 11 Pro has the hardware for pencil support AND bilateral wireless charging but is software disabled. Reasons is iOS13 wasn't ready for Apple Pencil on the phone and may come later this year. The bilateral wireless charging they are waiting for the new Airpods to be released for Xmas and the charging will be a selling point. Also, they want Apple Tile to be ready and add UWB to the Airpods too, so if you lose them, you can find them.

What's the reasoning for the new AirPods? The current ones already have a wireless charging case.
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Well will find some imperfection in Samsung’s photo and then call those photos garbage also. Easy-peasy to sling the mud. Guessing it’s garbage because Samsung’s is worse.;)

Please tag me if you find a garbage image on Samsung's website

P.S. I don't think Samsung's bokeh will be perfect either, I'm just shocked Apple posted that image on their website as if they couldn't notice it was garbage.
 
I seem to remember 'Bokeh' being one of the big buzzwords during last year's iPhone XS/XS Max reveal. I had never heard of 'Bokeh' and even though I have an XS Max I can't say I've ever knowingly used the feature once, much less thought about it since then, and certainly did not get the phone for it.

Not saying others aren't interested in Bokeh effects, but I think this is kind of a 'too little/too late' weak sauce feature from Samsung that isn't really going to convert all that many folks.
 
It's a quick knock on the difference between a Galaxy and a competitor's phone. It's not about the feature itself, but the difference in features. It's supposed to send the message "Samsung is better". But it fails.

Total fail. I didn't sense a shortcoming in my iPhone X let alone a new Pro after watching that
 
So did Samsung take the iphone portrait feature and extend it to video? Did they copy a feature, innovate a feature or improve a feature?
Samsung basically copied Huawei. The P30 and P30 Pro already did this before the Note 10. And they’re less expensive as well.
 
I'm not switching for some cheezy video effect. GTFO, Sammy.
It's a fundamental effect in photography and videography. So far Apple managed to implement the same effect only for still photos (portrait mode). They are rumored to add ToF sensor to iPhones next year, so you'll probably get this cheesy effect next year.
 
A very small amount of people buy the Note. Samsung is spending too much time focusing on the wrong competition.
 
I was worried about that too at first, but turns out to be fine and minimally distracting; and, IMHO, much better than the huge gash that is theiPhone notch.
Yeahhh. The iPhone notch is just... bad. Once I saw it, I said that I've never buy a phone with a notch until this trend is over. Since Apple is perfectly content with selling the same phone for the third year in a row (again), I'm thankful that least other manufacturers have moved on so that we all have some options sans notch.

Do you think the under-display cameras are coming next year?
 
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