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I was a Genius for 7 years... at no time did any customer ever come to us considering a Samsung or asking us to sell them on the iPhone - that part is done when they walk in the door. Our job was to repair their device while they wait, where Samsung has them mail in and wait.
 
It's 5 seconds difference per 100Mb.

It's really not that big a deal.
5 seconds? LoL how did you come up with that number?
At one point the Note 8 achieved 321mbps/s max vs 38mbps/s on the iphone x. That's huge difference right there.

Also this comparison is done in an area with good reception and the iphone x is obviously nowhere near capable of getting close to the max connection speeds that carrier has to offer.
 
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There aren't many Samsung stores, but I'm pretty sure they have a "Genius Bar" tech support area of their own too.
Yes they do at their experience stores. Only issue is that there aren’t many. We used to have the flagship Samsung store in Stratford in the UK and it had its own genius type bar. You didn’t even need an appointment and you could walk in. But the store was closed down and my nearest one is now about 2 hours away and inferior to the old one.
 
Both iOS and Android are solid standards. Samsung is giving iPhone free advertising here in a classic standards battle misstep.

Not sure how Samsung is advertising _anything_, being that they are advocating negative rhetoric towards the iPhone, not just in this ad, but in other ones. They’re trying to devalue the iPhone on purpose, but I don’t think that’s enough to Sway consumers that are involved in Apples ecosystem and are content with the iOS experience. And I also don’t see Apple rebutting any type of ads in response.
 
5 seconds? LoL how did you come up with that number?
At one point the Note 8 achieved 321mbps/s max vs 38mbps/s on the iphone x. That's huge difference right there.

Also this comparison is done in an area with good reception and the iphone x is obviously nowhere near capable on getting close to the max connection speeds that carrier has to offer.
5 seconds would be noticeable if you were downloading a movie for example in full HD or even 4K.
 
my service providers maximum is 150/50, my iphone 6s gets 74/34. i dont know. should i care about this?
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Interesting collection of excuses.
Meanwhile
https://imgur.com/zxCzM28
(and that's a Note 8 with a Snapdragon 835)

in "are of good reception" i get 70mbps on my 6S. Something must be wrong with your X. (or maybe all X's? i don't care. anyway, this is not right)
 
5 seconds? LoL how did you come up with that number?
At one point the Note 8 achieved 321mbps/s max vs 38mbps/s on the iphone x. That's huge difference right there.

Also this comparison is done in an area with good reception and the iphone x is obviously nowhere near capable of getting close to the max connection speeds that carrier has to offer.

I looked at the study between the two models.

https://bgr.com/2018/06/13/iphone-x-vs-galaxy-s9-speed-tests-wireless-network/

Averages:
iPhone - 31.18 Mbps
S9 - 41.8 Mbps

Translated to megabytes:

iPhone - 3.9 MBps
S9 - 5.2 MBps

So downloading 100MB would take:

iPhone - 25.6 seconds
S9 - 19.2 seconds

My apologies, 6 seconds difference per 100MB, not 5. My bad.
 
Samsung spend time releasing adverts that diss Apple. Apple don't spend time releasing adverts that diss Samsung. It's clear who the leader is here....
 
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in "are of good reception" i get 70mbps on my 6S. Something must be wrong with your X. (or maybe all X's? i don't care. anyway, this is not right)

Irrelevant.
Where you get 70mbps on an 6S an iphone x would probably get around 85mbps or more.
Connection speeds are not uniform, I don't understand why is it so hard to understand something so simple.
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I looked at the study between the two models.

https://bgr.com/2018/06/13/iphone-x-vs-galaxy-s9-speed-tests-wireless-network/

Averages:
iPhone - 31.18 Mbps
S9 - 41.8 Mbps

Translated to megabytes:

iPhone - 3.9 MBps
S9 - 5.2 MBps

So downloading 100MB would take:

iPhone - 25.6 seconds
S9 - 19.2 seconds

My apologies, 6 seconds difference per 100MB, not 5. My bad.
So it has nothing to do with the image I showed which proves that the difference can be even bigger than that average posted by PCMag which is basically a best case scenario for the iphone.
 
In a nutshell, not all customers are created equal (from an economic standpoint). Apple has aggregated the best customers. What exactly are people trying to prove by showing that Samsung has sold more $100 phones than Apple has sold $1000 iphones?
That people want and are happy with $100 phones?
 
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Interesting collection of excuses.
Meanwhile
https://imgur.com/zxCzM28
(and that's a Note 8 with a Snapdragon 835)

Just more my personal experience.

You are all certainly welcome to try and hype up this matter to be more of a bigger deal than (I think) it really is.

At the end of the day, not everything that can be measured matters. Just as not everything that matters can be measured.
 
My experience as I have an iPhone and the other half has an S8:

S8 (Asurion): "Mail it in after filling out all this paperwork and we will mail you back a new phone."

iPhone (Genius Bar): "Sorry for your issues, here is a replacement"
 
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I was a Genius for 7 years... at no time did any customer ever come to us considering a Samsung or asking us to sell them on the iPhone - that part is done when they walk in the door. Our job was to repair their device while they wait, where Samsung has them mail in and wait.
Well if they were already in the Apple store at the Genius Bar then they already owned an Apple device. I think it would be the job of the guys on the shop floor to sell you a device.

In my experience even the guys on the floor don’t really try and sell you anything. In my case I already know what I want before I go in but I’ve never seen them trying to push devices on people.
 
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Just more my personal experience.

You are all certainly welcome to try and hype up this matter to be more of a bigger deal than (I think) it really is.

At the end of the day, not everything that can be measured matters. Just as not everything that matters can be measured.
LoL more excuses.
Using your style and logic you can excuse anything: "oh it doesn't matter", "oh it's not a big deal", "oh it's not that important"...

It's funny that I've read this article on BGR but it's probably one of their few pieces about something android related that makes sense and it's rational.

In reality, it’s a lot more complicated. Gigabit LTE is almost a misleading name: the point isn’t to actually get gigabit speeds on your phone; it’s to use a bunch of clever technologies to get fast, workable speeds on any phone, even if you’re miles from the tower, surrounded by other devices, and jostling for airspace.
All of this is a long-winded way of saying that yes, you should actually care that Apple didn’t include a number of gigabit LTE technologies in the iPhone X or iPhone 8 this year, even though most Android flagships launched in 2017 have those features. Sure, you won’t be seeing download speeds of 953Mbps, even if you have the latest and greatest Android phone. But thanks to Apple’s design choices, the newest and most expensive iPhones are massively slower than their Android counterparts.

Booredatwork put together a YouTube comparison of LTE speeds on the iPhone X and Galaxy Note 8, running on T-Mobile’s network in New York City and in San Jose. You should go watch the whole thing to really understand the differences in speed between the two devices, but the short version is that the Note 8 was consistently twice as fast as the iPhone X. Whether it was on a regular LTE network or a gigabit LTE test site in San Jose, the real-world speeds on the Note 8 were double what the iPhone X was getting.

Now, the difference between 50Mbps and 100Mbps might not be huge, but in a more edge case where reception isn’t quite as good, the difference between 5Mbps and 10Mbps could be massive. The sad truth is that Apple has failed to embrace the most up-to-date wireless technology available, and whatever the reason for that, the end result is that iPhone buyers are going to suffer.
 
in a way this video is correct.. Apple wouldn't know that, They'd just say "our phones are better", because any company would say the same. You really think Apple would want you to leave without selling you something by telling you different?

I agree with you. When Apple announced their latest iPhones, all they pointed out was the FaceID and Animojis features. For me those 2 features are not important. I use the internet for various purposes so I want it to be able to match the same speed the network provider is putting out.
When the "internet speed" is the best feature you can use to compare with the competitors product you know there is a problem.
I don't know about you but internet speed is important. I happen to find it important when downloading, browsing and using the phone as a hotspot connecting to a laptop.
 
My experience as I have an iPhone and the other half has an S8:

S8 (Asurion): "Mail it in after filling out all this paperwork and we will mail you back a new phone."

iPhone (Genius Bar): "Sorry for your issues, here is a replacement"
I think you're missing the point. Both Apple and Samsung sold your family defective products.
 
My experience as I have an iPhone and the other half has an S8:

S8 (Asurion): "Mail it in after filling out all this paperwork and we will mail you back a new phone."

iPhone (Genius Bar): "Sorry for your issues, here is a replacement"
Well that’s good Samsung won’t send you a new phone here. They would fix it.
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I don't know about you but internet speed is important. I happen to find it important when downloading, browsing and using the phone as a hotspot connecting to a laptop.
I think the only place you will see the speed difference is if you are trying to download large files.

Web browsing doesn’t need a super fast speed.
 
Yes we know that. However you tried to insinuate that android only outsells Apple because they have hundreds of different vendors. Samsung are a single company who outsell Apple, albeit mainly with their midrange devices. However they still sell a good amount of high end devices although nowhere near as many as Apple do.

Samsung’s avg. selling price is under 200 dollars, that’s not midrange that’s low end, your being disingenuous at best.

The Majority of their phones sales are low end not mid range or high end. that’s why the collapse of high end sales is very important.

And so is the US.

Lg and Samsung generate ALMOST all of thier smartphone revenue from two markets the US and Korea, due to high sales of high end galaxy or lg handsets.

For Samsung to decline from 50 million units to 30 million of their galaxy s range(high end) in two years is bad. Since Samsung manufactures most of the components in its phones. It’s really bad and drags the entire company down.

“Samsung quarterly profit slips on poor Galaxy S9 sales”

Samsung Electronics projected its first profit decline in seven quarters on Friday, as the strong performance of its chip business was dented by slowing sales of premium smartphones and display panels.


https://www.ft.com/content/8e821fde-80b8-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d


Really bad.
Here some more sources.

If you disagree you should provide your sources not emotionally tinged opinions masquerading as facts.

“Weak Phone Demand Catches Up With Samsung as Profit Falls Short”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...falls-short-of-estimates-on-weak-phone-demand


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/07/06/weak-sales-samsung-smartphones-drag-profits/

“Samsung Galaxy S9 sales are slumping and that's a problem for all premium Android phones”

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3287928/android/samsung-s9-sales-slump.html
 
I don't understand how and why you dismiss things because of cost. If Samsung makes sub $100 phones and people are happy with them what's wrong with that?

Because a sizable portion of those sales are dumb phones not smartphones.... and Samsung refuses to provide a breakdown.
 
Samsung’s avg. selling price is under 200 dollars, that’s not midrange that’s low end, your being disingenuous at best.

The Majority of their phones sales are low end not mid range or high end. that’s why the collapse of high end sales is very important.

And so is the US.

Lg and Samsung generate ALMOST all of thier smartphone revenue from two markets the US and Korea, due to high sales of high end galaxy or lg handsets.

For Samsung to decline from 50 million units to 30 million of their galaxy s range(high end) in two years is bad. Since Samsung manufactures most of the components in its phones. It’s really bad and drags the entire company down.

“Samsung quarterly profit slips on poor Galaxy S9 sales”

Samsung Electronics projected its first profit decline in seven quarters on Friday, as the strong performance of its chip business was dented by slowing sales of premium smartphones and display panels.


https://www.ft.com/content/8e821fde-80b8-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d


Really bad.
Here some more sources.

If you disagree you should provide your sources not emotionally tinged opinions masquerading as facts.

“Weak Phone Demand Catches Up With Samsung as Profit Falls Short”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...falls-short-of-estimates-on-weak-phone-demand


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/07/06/weak-sales-samsung-smartphones-drag-profits/

“Samsung Galaxy S9 sales are slumping and that's a problem for all premium Android phones”

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3287928/android/samsung-s9-sales-slump.html
They sell a fair amount of high end phones in the uk too.
 
It’s probably not as relevant in the West because our internet speeds are crappy but in Asia they are far more advance with both their WiFi and LTE so I’d expect it to be more of an advantage in those markets. However even when the networks have the capability of faster LTE in the states and Europe I think Apple will be slow to adopt it in their phones. Let us not forget the 4G debacle on the iPhone 5. Carriers had to compensate customers in the uk because they had been sold the iPhone 5 as being 4G capable and when 4G launched a few months later the iPhone 5 was only compatible with the 4G of one carrier.

But it is an ad for the US market.... so much fail.
 
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