Samsung Ad Pokes Fun at Apple Genius Bar and Touts Faster Galaxy S9 LTE Speeds

[VulchR]

I see Samsung is still focusing on negatives advertisements. That'll work.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Exactly what I was thinking too

Maybe Apple can’t be bothered with another long and protracted legal battle. Or maybe they see it as free advertising because regardless of whatever the aim of the advert is Apple are still mentioned and therefore are in the minds of the viewer.

 

[FFR]

used to be like this here (Switzerland). Now they're still in every store window but if you look what people carry, it's iPhones, iPhones and more iPhones. I teach college - few years back maybe half my students had iPhones, the other half had Android handsets. Today it's maybe 9:1 in favor of Apple devices.

It’s shocking how fast it happened I noticed it to.

 

[FFR]

Well this is simply not true. Yes samsung sells more budget phones but they also sell about 50-60 million flagship phones a year. So to say android flagship phones haven't gotten very far simply isn't true. And flagship android phones don't stop getting updates after a few months. Another thing which is simply not true. Updates are slow and you only get two years support which is rubbish in comparison to Apple but what you are saying isn't true.

Also the pixel phones get software updates at least once a month for 3 years.

Do you have a source for your 50-60 million.

Because everyone is reporting 30 million.
I provided sources in my past post, perhaps you can as well?

 

[FFR]

Yes they do at their experience stores. Only issue is that there aren’t many. We used to have the flagship Samsung store in Stratford in the UK and it had its own genius type bar. You didn’t even need an appointment and you could walk in. But the store was closed down and my nearest one is now about 2 hours away and inferior to the old one.

Yes and it closed down due to lack of sales. If that continues.... the 2 hour store will be closed as well.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Do you have a source for your 50-60 million.

Because everyone is reporting 30 million.
I provided sources in my past post, perhaps you can as well?

I’m talking about sales in previous years not projected sales. Projected sales haven’t happend yet. The 30 million you quote are projected sales for the year.

Next year if Samsung only sells 30 million this year. I will say 30 million flagships a year.

 

[Emeraldsmines1990]

And who needs all that LTE speed in a mobile phone to begin with ? who will download Gigs of Bytes using a phone ?

Fast LTE is very expensive and is never Flat , you will pay for more Data Downloaded. and end up using the whole plan in two hours with such speed.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Yes and it closed down due to lack of sales. If that continues.... the 2 hour store will be closed as well.

Well I wouldn’t bother with the 2 hour store as it’s too far away and I don’t really have any need or desire to go there. The two hour store is on oxford street so I think Samsung are in dire straights if they have to close that considering that it’s part of a Carphone Warehouse. Not even Samsung’s own store.

 

[FFR]

I’m talking about sales in previous years not projected sales. Projected sales haven’t happend yet. The 30 million you quote are projected sales for the year.

Next year if Samsung only sells 30 million this year. I will say 30 million flagships a year.

Yes it could very well be less then 20 million.

 

[MoreRumors?]

Maybe when Apple announce the new iPhones, they will talk more about its capabilities and no more about emojis. You can't accept and it take it for granted that it is an Apple product and for the what it cost, I want to know what I am getting.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Samsung’s avg. selling price is under 200 dollars, that’s not midrange that’s low end, your being disingenuous at best.

The Majority of their phones sales are low end not mid range or high end. that’s why the collapse of high end sales is very important.

And so is the US.

Lg and Samsung generate ALMOST all of thier smartphone revenue from two markets the US and Korea, due to high sales of high end galaxy or lg handsets.

For Samsung to decline from 50 million units to 30 million of their galaxy s range(high end) in two years is bad. Since Samsung manufactures most of the components in its phones. It’s really bad and drags the entire company down.

“Samsung quarterly profit slips on poor Galaxy S9 sales”

Samsung Electronics projected its first profit decline in seven quarters on Friday, as the strong performance of its chip business was dented by slowing sales of premium smartphones and display panels.


https://www.ft.com/content/8e821fde-80b8-11e8-bc55-50daf11b720d


Really bad.
Here some more sources.

If you disagree you should provide your sources not emotionally tinged opinions masquerading as facts.

“Weak Phone Demand Catches Up With Samsung as Profit Falls Short”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...falls-short-of-estimates-on-weak-phone-demand


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/07/06/weak-sales-samsung-smartphones-drag-profits/

“Samsung Galaxy S9 sales are slumping and that's a problem for all premium Android phones”

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3287928/android/samsung-s9-sales-slump.html

Samsung sell more phones (over all their models) than Apple, they make profit on every-one, this whole Apple is sucking-up all the profits is stupid. What future do you see? Do you think it's better to make a 1000% profit on a phone but you only sell 10 of them? The reason Samsung makes cheap phones is because they make so many of them that the profit makes it worthwhile.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Yes it could very well be less then 20 million.

And if is then that’s what I’ll say next year. But yes considering that Samsung are the only android OEMs that really sell high end phones, android will be in trouble if Samsung can’t sell their flagships in significant numbers anymore.

 

[sza]

The dunce always makes fun of the top students.

 

[pppx3]

and queue the law suit..... now.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Samsung sell more phones (over all their models) than Apple, they make profit on every-one, this whole Apple is sucking-up all the profits is stupid. What future do you see? Do you think it's better to make a 1000% profit on a phone but you only sell 10 of them? The reason Samsung makes cheap phones is because they make so many of them that the profit makes it worthwhile.

I think they both have different business strategies which play to their own strengths.

Samsung have the capability of churning out a range of devices to suit every price point.

Apple’s strategy is to sell fewer devices with much higher profit margins. Both models are successful but Apple are more successful in terms of revenue.

 

[FFR]

Samsung sell more phones (over all their models) than Apple, they make profit on every-one, this whole Apple is sucking-up all the profits is stupid. What future do you see? Do you think it's better to make a 1000% profit on a phone but you only sell 10 of them? The reason Samsung makes cheap phones is because they make so many of them that the profit makes it worthwhile.

Um no. That’s not how it works.
The opposite of profit is a loss. Which is what’s happening to Samsung in thier mobile division.

Your not guaranteed a profit just by selling something even Samsung.

You might be confusing business with socialism....not the same thing

 

[aleni]

Is it allowed to advertise using their competitor’s logo in that genius tshirt?

 

[Abazigal]

And if is then that’s what I’ll say next year. But yes considering that Samsung are the only android OEMs that really sell high end phones, android will be in trouble if Samsung can’t sell their flagships in significant numbers anymore.

It seems ironic, but remember when everyone was claiming in 2013 how the iphone would lose to cheaper android phones?

As it would seem, iPhones seem to be a lot more resistant to disruption than many critics gave it credit for, while Samsung seems to be suffering the very same fate people thought it would do unto Apple.

Moral of the story - don't label yourself an iPhone killer. It never turns out well in the end.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Um no. That’s not how it works.
The opposite of profit is a loss. Which is what’s happening to Samsung in thier mobile division.

Your not guaranteed a profit just by selling something even Samsung.

You might be confusing business with socialism....not the same thing

I think Samsung have problems in all areas of their phone range. They aren’t selling as many high end devices and they are losing sales in China on the low end.

Apple have so far managed to keep iPhone sales quite consistent year over year and by increasing the price of the iPhone have managed to increase their profits even though as a whole the smartphone industry is declining. So whilst people like to slate Tim Cook for not being a revolutionary like Jobs he knows what he’s doing.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

The opposite of profit is a loss. Which is what’s happening to Samsung in thier mobile division.

You don't get it "Samsung in their mobile division" can make a loss. Samsung make a ton of stuff from TVs, to bulldozers to deep sea oil-rigs. As long as they make a profit over all is what matters.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It seems ironic, but remember when everyone was claiming in 2013 how the iphone would lose to cheaper android phones?

As it would seem, iPhones seem to be a lot more resistant to disruption than many critics gave it credit for, while Samsung seems to be suffering the very same fate people thought it would do unto Apple.

Moral of the story - don't label yourself an iPhone killer. It never turns out well in the end.

I think Apple have generated a lot of brand loyalty over the years which even Samsung haven’t really managed to do. Many people will just keep buying iPhones year over year because of high levels of satisfaction. If it’s not broke don’t fix it comes to mind. I do but the latest Samsung flagship every year, buy never really with any serious intent. It’s more of a toy to play around with for a few months before selling it on. I always keep the latest iPhone as my daily driver and I’ve no desire to switch to android.

 

[bitfactory]

I despise Samsung as a company, and even I'm embarrassed for them after watching this ad.

 

[Shanghaichica]

You don't get it "Samsung in their mobile division" can make a loss. Samsung make a ton of stuff from TVs, to bulldozers to deep sea oil-rigs. As long as they make a profit over all is what matters.

Despite whatever troubles Samsung are having with their mobile division, as a company they have their finger in so many pies that it doesn’t really matter if they are loosing phone sales. They can run the mobile division as a hobby if they really wanted to.

 

[jmgregory1]

Samsung sell more phones (over all their models) than Apple, they make profit on every-one, this whole Apple is sucking-up all the profits is stupid. What future do you see? Do you think it's better to make a 1000% profit on a phone but you only sell 10 of them? The reason Samsung makes cheap phones is because they make so many of them that the profit makes it worthwhile.

I really don't think this is true that every phone Samsung makes generates profit, but regardless, for any private or public company, profit is the name of the game, not volume. Plenty of companies have gone out of business selling lots of something for little to no profit. I think Apple's focus on their targeted market is always going to be better than a company chasing after volume at the cost of profit.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I really don't think this is true that every phone Samsung makes generates profit, but regardless, for any private or public company, profit is the name of the game, not volume. Plenty of companies have gone out of business selling lots of something for little to no profit. I think Apple's focus on their targeted market is always going to be better than a company chasing after volume at the cost of profit.

You really believe that Samsung brings a phone to market which results in losses for the company?